User talk:Jackpot

Opinions

I don't think you understand the purpose of Wikis. They serve to report on stuff. They don't serve to "fill-in" plot holes. We present official evidence and information and allow the reader to come to their own conclusions. Allowing any editor to push their own opinion is, frankly, a mess that we don't need. Interrobang 09:12, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Ha ha ha... the ironic counterpoint of the other recent wikisnit- "stop making our captions boring and descriptive." Man... I'm glad I'm comfortable with my own level of hypocrisy. -Derik 09:29, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Flyers

Those articles are awesome. Keep it up. Interrobang 23:01, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you; I appreciate that. Almost all the flyers that I know existed, I have in my possession. I want to eventually scan in all the S.T.A.R.S.-related ones, but it's just a matter of finding the time. Eventually... - Jackpot 04:49, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Sidebar

Hey, I appreciate what you said on MediaWiki talk:Monaco-sidebar about being argumentative and everything. I hope I'm not coming across as trying to push the community into something you don't want to do. I don't usually get this involved in discussions about sidebars and customization. I'm just hanging around on this wiki and participating in these discussions because I like the site. I've got access to some stats and some experiences from other wikis, and I want to offer those up if they're helpful. I like that the people on this wiki are all cranky and funny and opinionated, so I want to help out if I can. -- Danny<staff /> (talk) 21:24, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for saying that. I do think that you're at a disadvantage when it comes to your perception here, since you are an outsider who has just made a substantial change to the wiki. Whatever the rights and wrongs of it, that's simply how it is, so it's a bit of an uphill battle for you. I can't by any means speak for anybody but myself, but I personally appreciate the input you've given (even if we have disagreements), and I've certainly adjusted to Monaco. I'm happy to see where we can take it as a tool. - Jackpot 05:35, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Cog

Just wanted to make sure you didn't miss this on the Recent Changes index. --Monzo 09:32, 17 January 2009 (EST)

STARS II

Since you have been reorganizing/updating the STARS stuff, I thought you'd want to see this.

• One
• Two
• Three and Four
• Five
• Six

I got the scans from Zobovor. --Monzo 21:15, 6 February 2009 (EST)

Awesome, thank you! I'll certainly be making a page out of that... - Jackpot 15:23, 7 February 2009 (EST)

Community Portal Archives

If you look in the giant tar.gz of unprocessed cache files on the Damage Control Central, in it is a folder called "Transformers Wiki" that has, among other things, the Community Portal Talk archives I saved. --Jeysie 17:55, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

The Disambig discussion pages

I ran into the problem that, if I run them through Abates' processor, they're all properly wikied except that the indentation's all screwy. Likewise, if I use Derik's processor, the indentation is correct (I think... it's a bizarrely threaded thing), but the wikilinks are all HTML. Sigh. Since IIRC you tackled the Community Portal archives OK, would you maybe be able to figure out how to get them sorted?

Also, the reason I wanted to find the bit on my userpage a permanent place is that, if you're going to reference it in debates, it's a lot easier to remember something that's connected to a Main or Help/Wiki namespace somewhere than it is something that's connected to some random user's userpage. --Jeysie 19:59, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, go ahead and use Derik's processor. HTML is far easier to sort out than indentation. As for finding a home for your Sandbox stuff, I really don't have any ideas off the top of my head. I'm still perfectly happy leaving it connected to your userpage; I know I'LL remember it, at least. - Jackpot 21:01, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

Well, crud. I'll get to it when I have the time to hand-fix all the link tags (...which might not be any time soon. :> ) --Jeysie 21:06, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

No, I meant I could fix the link-tags too. Or you could just put it all up as-is and slap a {{Bookworm}} on it and whoever feels like getting to it first, gets to it first. - Jackpot 21:33, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

Hunter's Article

You know, I think you managed to solidify for me why Hunter's death bugged me so much, yet Nightbeat's I was OK with, despite fangirling them both about the same. It felt like even though it was a halfway logical conclusion to his storyline, it was still the wrong conclusion for the setup. I just couldn't articulate why before, exactly (or if it wasn't just personal preference). --Jeysie 08:21, 6 July 2009 (EDT)

Thanks for saying so - I have to admit, I was particularly proud of that observation (and paranoid that someone would delete it for being "speculation" or editorializing or something). I too had experienced a sense of ineffable "wrongness" when I got to the end of AHM, but I hadn't given it another thought until I decided to contribute to the AHM#12 article. At first I was just going to write a simple note about how McCarthy was sticking it to Furman, killing off his principle human character, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized the scope of what Furman had quietly invested in Hunter. I think Nightbeat's death had been less jarring because right from the beginning Furman had set him up as a victim of the Dead Universe guys. It would've been nice to have seen Nightbeat escape from that, but at least he died as he lived, or something. Hunter's interrupted hero-journey could've been a subversive genre-fuck if it had been handled better, but as it was, it felt like a new writer whipping his dick out and being HARDCORE by making an unpopular character suffer and die because that's AWESOME, regardless of what the previous writer (whose work he had claimed to respect) had built up.

I mean, it would also make a certain amount of story-sense for Verity to start turning tricks out of Jimmy's garage, but....

- Jackpot 02:20, 9 July 2009 (EDT)

Hrm, I think you're right that it could have been a genre-fuck. Just that in order for that to work, the death would have had to result somehow from Hunter being proactive about his quest to learn more about the TFs, or otherwise reflect on him as an individual. It would have to continue following the typical journey until the right switchpoint.

Instead, his death came from nothing more than him being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It could have happened to any human who happened to be a Sunstreaker Headmaster, not just Hunter specifically, and that lends to the feel of it being done just for the sake of erasing previous plot ideas by someone who couldn't be bothered to study how things had been progressing until that point.

I will say it is kind of interesting how many posters I've seen seem to be stuck annoyed with this particular point even when some of them were actually happy with the rest of AHM. Makes an interesting comment on how universal some story themes are, that people can pick up on them even when they don't necessarily consciously recognize the structure. (But now I'm just idly musing. :> ) --Jeysie 05:22, 9 July 2009 (EDT)

It also could've been a genre-fuck even if his death had nothing to do with him personally, but the story played up his hero-myth so much that the reader was really counting on him surviving, not just expecting it. (I don't know if you've read George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series, but he's big on that sort of thing: As soon as a character starts being portrayed as a father-figure, you know he's doomed.) As it was, Furman's buildup had been subtle enough to generate the sense that Hunter shouldn't die yet, but not strong enough to make the audience hang their hopes on him.

And, yeah, that's the neat thing about archetypes: They're archetypes because people expect them subconsciously. Joseph Campbell may have been doing nothing more than finding commonalities in a cross-section of epics, but the reason they were all there in the first place is because storytellers throughout history knew what worked for their audiences.

- Jackpot 12:50, 10 July 2009 (EDT)

Logo template

Glad you like it, but it actually automatically plunks them into the logo category. You don't have to manually categorize 'em.--Rosicrucian^Talk 00:41, 22 August 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, as I was adding the templates and categories, I was like, "Hey, I'm an idiot, I should just add this category to the template!" Then I went to do it and realized you'd had it in there all along. Doubly the idiot was I. - Jackpot 00:43, 22 August 2009 (EDT)

Micromaster

The article can do without the comparision, but to answer your question; in the Japanese fiction, Micromasters are all from the Transformer colony Micro/Zone, which may or may not be a colony founded by Rodimus Prime when he went to search for a replacement-Cybertron.

I do like the additions you have made to the Cybertronian article (especially that one footnote I wasn't sure how to handle), but looking at the article now, I do wonder if it couldn't use a few more Cybertronians in the images. I was in the process of trying to select some images for upload and looking into the worth of more individual articles, but now that you've filled up the article with images, I'm not sure if I should change it.

P.S., not sure if I might not get the joke, but is it supposed to be "aXalists in the foxhole?" Geewunling 03:56, 24 February 2011 (EST)

Okay, that sounds familiar, but I guess I don't see the MMs as being comparable to the Cybertronians in uniformity. They're... more uniform than TFs in general, but still. Eh, judgement calls, and the point is moot if we leave the comparison out entirely. Anyway! I hear what you're saying about the images, and I had the same thought, but I figured the reaction-shots were relevant enough. For instance, Prime's monologue on Ethos is a perfect summation of lots of the value judgements that are incorporated into our descriptions. And stuff like Skullgrin's death shows how fearsome the Cybertronian army came across. If you can find images that are more Cybertronian-centric and convey the same ideas, I wouldn't object, but I'm personally comfortable with what's there. And as for the joke, I don't know what you mean by bolding the "a", but it's a play on "no atheists in the foxhole." - Jackpot 04:42, 24 February 2011 (EST)

Maps

Just a heads up, but when you made the Maps category, you set its parent category as...well, the Maps category. It's basically just looping in on itself in its own little bubble away from all the other images, so you should probably find a better parent category instead. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 22:54, 30 March 2021 (EDT)

Good catch, thanks! Changed. - Jackpot (talk) 22:58, 30 March 2021 (EDT)