MediaWiki talk:Privacy policy

Is it too much to suggest that, as a page linked from every other page on the Wiki, there should be something here?

Hell, even if it wasn't, it would probably *still* be a good idea... - SanityOrMadness 18:18, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

Hrm, I take it the Transformers Wiki: and Help: pages weren't restored with everything else. Though there's no cache page in the big zip for Privacy Policy, so I'm not sure what happened to it (assuming there was ever a page here!) --abates 19:25, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

They weren't automatically reposted. And every non-Main article in the big zip file is what I could find by doing a search for "http://tfwiki.net/wiki/(namespace):" on Google. --Jeysie 21:19, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

So I guess we still don't have a privacy policy? --FFN 04:45, 11 November 2009 (EST)

AFAIK, we never did. -Derik 06:19, 11 November 2009 (EST)

Hoy. I have drafted lots of yammering. It could probably be stronger delineated between the policy (first section) and a meta-outline of data gathered (second) and noted (third). Have at it. -Derik 08:15, 11 November 2009 (EST)

You forgot to mention the CheckUser extension, which can be used to check if multiple accounts have been created using a single IP address. ---Blackout- 08:32, 11 November 2009 (EST)

Nuke it

This privacy policy accomplishes nothing. I say we nuke it and start over.--Jimsorenson 12:34, 31 March 2010 (EDT)

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?--Jimsorenson 14:23, 1 April 2010 (EDT)

I had the same problem getting anyone interested in the privacy policy back then, which I think is why Derik probably just wrote that one and stuck it up there. I would like to see it replaced with something better, but I'd rather we created that something better before nuking the existing one. --abates 18:07, 1 April 2010 (EDT)

I think the current one is SO bad as to be worse than useless. We shouldn't be using this space to pontificate about the lack of online privacy. In this case, I think having a bad privacy policy is a LOT worse for us than having NO privacy policy.--Jimsorenson 18:14, 1 April 2010 (EDT)

Note about unofficial status

"The following site privacy statement is a draft. It has not yet(Nov-11-09) been formally approved." That date is ten and a half years ago. The last comment before this on the discussion page is over nine years old. Is this page still a thing, and if so, what kind? It seems like something should have happened regarding this policy proposal long ago, whether that's adoption, revision, or having Megatron force it to fly into the sun like it's full of Autobots.

Now, I'm not about to edit this page itself, because a) I'm a relative newbie here and this is a policy, not some character page full of typos and b) we should have some consensus before actually changing it. But what we seem to have here is more lack of awareness than consensus. so let me toss out some options and see if anyone bites: 1) Adopt as stands. Basically delete the note and call it official. 2) Delete as stands. Essentially get rid of it in some way, maybe eventually to be replaced wholesale if we feel like it. 3) Revise in some way, then adopt. Probably should discuss how to revise it.

Now, I'm (currently) profoundly apathetic about which option we choose, but when I see something that's been a work in progress in some sense for over a decade, with no discussion for nearly all that time, I'm going to pick up that dropped ball and see if anyone wants to play with it. --Waverod ✈️ (talk) 19:53, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

Some of the info there is outdated and/or wrong, so it definitely needs revising. It was originally written because there's a link to it in the skin which led nowhere, but people don't really care much. --abates (talk) 22:07, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

I've rewritten the bits about what data we hold to actually be accurate, but I think the intro could do with rewriting. --abates (talk) 21:38, 14 August 2020 (EDT)

Four years later...

Please consider this. Four years ago, abates and waverod made edits working toward the adoption of this policy. I first discovered this page because I actually wanted to read the Privacy Policy. It seemed a little weird that it wasn't adopted, so I looked at the talk page and found that people had, years prior, tried to get it adopted. I think this page is very close to being complete. The intro needs work, but all the rest is pretty good. This page should definitely be adopted because of people like me who, however rare they might be, look at, and reference, the Privacy Policy. Don't get me wrong, I love the work that has been done on the wiki. The fact that so many people have put this much time and effort into this site is incredible. This is just a small detail that waverod, abates, and jimsorenson have all tried to fix. This is the third time someone has tried to get this page fixed and adopted. I hope to make it the last. If some of the admins could give their opinions, I'd greatly appreciate it. Hilfam (talk) 18:02, 27 August 2024 (EDT)

Anyone? Hilfam (talk) 13:21, 5 September 2024 (EDT)

Recently I contacted abates on his talk page to ask about this policy. He said I could put a rewrite of the intro here so I'll go ahead and do that.

"TFWiki.net recognizes that all users— both contributors and browsers— have both a desire for and basic right to privacy in regard to their online activity. TFWiki.net takes no special measures to retain users traffic or identity data, and does not make that stored data available to our partners.

Editors making contributions to TFWiki.net should be aware that their contributions include both username and IP-address information which could be used to identify them.

• Under FCC blogging guidelines passed in the United States in October 2009, link-stuffing or other concealed compensated-endorsements may be a federal crime.

• Anonymous edits are publicly identified by the IP address of the person making them. Edits performed by logged-in users are publicly identified by their username instead."

As you can see, I removed the sarcasm the intro currently has, kept many of the main topics, and removed the part about libel. I'm not sure if we should have something about libel or what format it should be in. I think I've done what I can to make the intro decent. If anyone has an opinion to give as to whether we adopt this intro, please share your thoughts. I'd like to make some headway on this policy. Hilfam (talk) 13:54, 25 October 2024 (EDT)