Talk:Spark

The Belarian comment is awesome. I bet no one got that one. "There's a ferret cage by the wall if anyone needs it..."

For now, I've put this in the "technology" category, although that doesn't really seem like the right place. I hesitate to even put it under "objects", where "technology" currently resides. Basically, "objects" needs a better name. Yes, I'm the one that put that name there in the first place. It still stinks.

--Steve-o 04:39, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Added Magmatron/Prowl'd Death scene

Rattrap's quote about Carbon Scoring is, IIRC, found in Revelations. They are able to tell the bodies int he bonyard had their sparks extracted not snuffed because extinguishing a spark leaves carbon scoring.

Though inappropriate to make such a parallel connection in the G1 secon, I think it fits in prperties of sparks? (The factoid shoudl be there at any rate. S teve, it's your baby. If you dont' liek it just makrk the picture for deletion.) -Derik 04:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I took the picture out. Who knows what that smoke and light was. It could be his spark flaring out, or it could just be fire and smoke. I moved the comment itself into the properties section, though. --Steve-o 17:42, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Was it on-screen or in-print that Alpha-Q's new body was made of Terrorcon bones? - Ratbat 05:05, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

BT and Linkage comments

I've removed, for now at least, the comments about BinalTech and Linkage. I see that the Fantofan translation for Smokescreen GT mentions his spark, but the approved translations by Doug Dlin don't seem to. It's not a huge leap, I suppose, but I'd rather be more precise about it. If people think it should go back in, we can work on a better way of describing it. And, obviously, it should go in the "properties" section with the stuff about multiple bodies, rather than the "establishment" section.

Regarding Linkage: I just reread it the other night after seeing the comment that was placed in the article, and it seems to me that it is an overstatement to claim that "The manga Linkage established that Mini-Cons and humans have thier own analogues to sparks and the Allspark." Although Redline tells Stella that Mini-Con souls branched off from human souls, that does not mean that humans are part of the Linkage (which I am taking to be the Mini-Con's Allspark analog). I'm open to putting some statement about this back into the article, but I didn't like the way it was initially written.

Comments are welcome.

--Steve-o 17:42, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

The Linkage sure as hell looks like a Mini-Con Allspark analogue to me... and yes, there's really nothing to indicate that humans have their own. At least, nothing in TF fiction. - User: M Sipher

What G1 sparks do to beasites

How about a comment on Optimus Prime's spark turning Optimus Primal into Optimal Optimus, and G1 Megatron's spark turning Beast Megatron into a dragon? Crockalley 18:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Capitalization?

Optimal Optimus' Titanium packaging showed up today, and the bio repeatedly capitalizes "Spark." I think it's a proper noun! --ItsWalky 12:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Now that I look into it, Spark is capitalized throughout the Ultimate Guide, too. Man, no wonder I capitalized them when I first started working on the wiki. WHO MADE ME STOP. THIS IS YOUR FAULT. --ItsWalky 14:42, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm betting Steve. He's the one who decapitalized Seeker and Skyraider at one point, after all. Man hates capital letters.

-LV 16:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

That's what he said this morning when I brought it up! Someone needs to take care of him. --ItsWalky 19:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I thought this was odd when I first started poking around, and I wondered why it had been decided not to capitalize Spark. It sure seems like as proper a noun as one can get, but then again, it's akin to "heart", and that is not capitalized either.

I thought the lower-case Energon was odd, too, since it's a specific type or format of energy, but I think I just defeated myself with the heart analogy. --Sntint 05:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

That's more or less my thinking on it, yeah. We don't capitalize the world "soul", either, nor do we capitalize the names of most substances. Plus I found it non-capitalized in a bunch of places that I considered meaningful, like the original script for "The Spark". Lots of words in TF get inconsistent capitalization from source to source, and this is one of them. Citing a few examples either way doesn't really carry much weight unless those examples are somehow important examples. --Steve-o 05:50, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Laser Core?

I know that some (Most?) think that Laser Core is a G1 term for 'Spark', but I always figured a transformer's Laser Core was it's central power source...the Heart, compared to the Spark's 'Soul'. Where in humans it's Mind, Heart, Soul, in Transformers, it would be Datatrax, Laser Core, Spark. Am I the only one who thought this? --Kendrakirai 21:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I think fans associated the term with TF's because Megatron made a comment about the 'last spark' being extinguished... or something along those line.

That said- Laser Core is the Spark Housing. read this tech-spec. We also later got a hybrid term 'spark core' somewhere. Laser Core is != the spark, but it's apparently part of the physical inteface with it, BW Fractyl suffered a near-fatal laser core misalignment after a bad reformatting. -Derik 22:05, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmmmm, I'm not sure about that, but I suppose I'll accept it for now. Personally though, I'll still think of the Laser Core as the 'heart' -Kendrakirai 17:25, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Vok Nebula?

There is a difference between Geneneration 1 Transformers and Protoform Transformers' sparks. G1 Transformers' sparks are small fragments of Primus's lifeforce, while Protoform Transformers' sparks are small fragments split from Vok Nebula. The good sparks will be sent to the Matrix and the evil sparks will be sent to the Pit.

I do not think I like this crazy Japanese interpretation of canon.--Rosicrucian 16:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't think this crazy japanese canon should be given the ammount of emphasis it now has. Should be toned back to acnoledge its obscurity and weirdness.

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