Talk:Seymour Simmons

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I figure the full name will probably be int he novelization somewhere- but Agent Simmons first initial R comes from the ARG-- it's part of his e-mail address. -Derik 19:06, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I hope it's Richard. --ItsWalky 04:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

First name

Simmon's first name is given as "Seymour" in The Veiled Threat. ...annoying. Was his first name used anywhere but the ARG? -Derik 20:43, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

Move

RotF stuff is starting to come out, and this character is called "Seymour Simmons" in all of them.

The name Reggie came from the ARG. We never saw his face in the ARG, he didn't have any of movie-Simmons trademark verbal tics in his e-mails, etc... it looks like ARG-Simmons is a separate character, on which the "movie Simmons" was based (internal to the ARG-continuity.) This actually makes a fair amount of sense, internal to the way the ARG worked.

I've take the preparatory step of of queuing up all the "Reggie Simmons" links to be redirected to "Seymore Simmons" (and then excluding a few links I knew to be ARG-specific) but actually moving the article is a fairly major change, and I'd like to see a few other editors opinions before doing so.

Move to "Seymour Simmons": yea or nay? -Derik 17:48, 16 May 2009 (EDT)

Considering the evident prominence of "Seymour" over "Reggie", yes. —Interrobang 18:07, 16 May 2009 (EDT)
Darn, I LIKE "Reggie" over "Seymour"... --Lonegamer78 16:23, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
You and me both, Lonegamer. "Reggie" fits as being as quirky as Simmons is, but "Seymour"? Blech. Too dorky even for Simmons.
I could have sworn that "Reggie" showed up somewhere else, though. Not even in the '07 Prequel comics or anything? --Jeysie 16:49, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
Not named in the 2007 novel, I checked. And I checked the prequel too, unless I missed it, it's not there.
I also hate Seymore. It make him pathetic, like Skinner. :p -Derik 16:56, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

I have a theory!

Don't FBI agents have a fake name they go by or something? So Reggie might actual be an alias?Godziboy1993 01:29, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

In-continuity I think it makes more sense that, since Sector 7 was producing the movie to serve their own purposes, they made a guy named Simmons head of S7 so that if they ever had to go public the public would be primed to accept the idea.
In ARG continuity, I don't think Sam witwicky even exists, except as a fictional character in the movie. Archibald did-- so when S7 produced the cartoon in the 1980's, they made the main protagonist a Witwicky as a sorta in-joke. When the 2007 movie came around, S7 created Sam as a tool to tell his ancestor's backstory with-- again filling in the public with less to explain.
(I might be filtering this through Quozl, but it does make sense.) -Derik 03:00, 17 May 2009 (EDT)