Talk:Alice (ROTF)
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Pretender?
Would it be accurate to consider that Alice might be a Pretender? Doesn't seem to transform, just covers herself in a shell.
- She's not a Pretender by our definition. She's more like Optimus Primal - a robot that transforms into an organic primate. There's no shell involved at all. Mind, the powers that be may say she's a Pretender anyhow. Until then, she's just a Transformer who transforms into a human. --ItsWalky 01:39, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
- How exactly did she transform? The "skin" just seemed to fold back, revealing the robot beneath, with no actual shape-changing.KrytenKoro 09:48, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
- I think that, if anything official calls her a 'Pretender', including semi-official things like interviews with people who would know, we could call her one. Otherwise, though, it's just another Sari Sumdac situation. Her conversion from human to robot was different enough than any prior depiction of pretenders (splitting in half or phasing out, like in the Marvel comic, or disappearing in a burst of light or puff of smoke, like in Masterforce) that we'd be taking too big a leap. --Jimsorenson 10:10, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
- I know it probably doesn't mean much, but in this interview Orci says "there is a Pretender". -Mazenoise 10:13, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
- I think that, if anything official calls her a 'Pretender', including semi-official things like interviews with people who would know, we could call her one. Otherwise, though, it's just another Sari Sumdac situation. Her conversion from human to robot was different enough than any prior depiction of pretenders (splitting in half or phasing out, like in the Marvel comic, or disappearing in a burst of light or puff of smoke, like in Masterforce) that we'd be taking too big a leap. --Jimsorenson 10:10, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
- How exactly did she transform? The "skin" just seemed to fold back, revealing the robot beneath, with no actual shape-changing.KrytenKoro 09:48, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
