Talk:Ancient
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In the ROTF book, "Sound Like the Transformers" (the one with a voice-modifying microphone), it equates the ancients with the original thirteen. So at the very least we need to disambiguate. Let me quote:
The symbols tell how we began. We were ruled by the Ancients - the first 13 Transformers. The forged the Matrix of Leadership, a key used to power a great machine. It destroys suns and collects their Energon. The Ancients agreed never to use this power on a planet with life. One of the Ancients, the Fallen, defied that rule. He destroyed the other Ancients - all but one, who saved the Matrix. ...Jetfire
So it's the usual ROTF adaptation story, what with the one surviving Prime, but it sure likes to use the word "Ancients." --ItsWalky 10:16, 6 July 2009 (EDT)

