Talk:Scrapper (ROTF)
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It would appear as though the Constructicon Scouts share the same chassis as Scrapper. Should we use the pic of the Scout for Scrapper's article? Godziboy1993 13:17, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
- I just rewatched the movie, and the cannibalized Constructicon was the one who looks like a Constructicon scout. Also, he is clearly shown using the claw at the back, so it's not Hightower. I think we can say it's Scrapper now.KrytenKoro 17:53, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
- At 0:16, you can clearly see Scrapper, (red) Rampage, Long Haul, and Mixmaster. However, it soon shows a yellow-red Volvo Excavator (maybe it's just Ravage messing around in it?). Then, it switches to what is clearly Scrapper's robot mode. I think we can safely say it's Scrapper, and the excavator is some kind of error.KrytenKoro 22:34, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
- "Scrapper's" robot mode is the first to dive into the water and is yellow, right? The red robot mode goes right before Long Haul and is a pogo-stick, which means the red vehicle in the wide shot is Rampage. It appears to me there is a Constructicon with an excavator altmode that transformes into a Scrapper-like robot mode (by process of elimination). Rampage looks like the smallest one so I don't know why they killed the excavator guy, but oh well. - Starfield 23:02, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
- The Volvo excavator is yellow and clearly has a giant Decepticon logo on him. His robot mode's arms are noticeably skinnier than Scrapper's. I think those two factors can qualify him as a different character from Scrapper. --Detour 00:05, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
- *grrgh* Seriously, more bootleg discussion? Regardless, I don't know exactly against what we're judging the skinniness of Scrapper's arms. Early concept art? --ItsWalky 00:11, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
- This image of Scrapper from an HD trailer is what I'm comparing the arms on, and the altmode was determined between identifying the vehicle mode as a treaded vehicle of sorts (initially believed by myself to be Hightower), and an Allspark member identified it as a Volvo excavator. So no bootlegs were used in my investigation. --Detour 00:29, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
- *grrgh* Seriously, more bootleg discussion? Regardless, I don't know exactly against what we're judging the skinniness of Scrapper's arms. Early concept art? --ItsWalky 00:11, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
- The Volvo excavator is yellow and clearly has a giant Decepticon logo on him. His robot mode's arms are noticeably skinnier than Scrapper's. I think those two factors can qualify him as a different character from Scrapper. --Detour 00:05, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
- What I'm saying is, at the 0:16 mark, there is pretty clearly Scrapper's alt mode, a front load shovel. The Volvo excavator then appears in the close-up shot, but since we never see it transform, it's entirely possible it's not even a Transformer - that shot is heavily obscured, and Scrapper could be right behind it.KrytenKoro 02:00, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
- "Scrapper's" robot mode is the first to dive into the water and is yellow, right? The red robot mode goes right before Long Haul and is a pogo-stick, which means the red vehicle in the wide shot is Rampage. It appears to me there is a Constructicon with an excavator altmode that transformes into a Scrapper-like robot mode (by process of elimination). Rampage looks like the smallest one so I don't know why they killed the excavator guy, but oh well. - Starfield 23:02, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
- At 0:16, you can clearly see Scrapper, (red) Rampage, Long Haul, and Mixmaster. However, it soon shows a yellow-red Volvo Excavator (maybe it's just Ravage messing around in it?). Then, it switches to what is clearly Scrapper's robot mode. I think we can safely say it's Scrapper, and the excavator is some kind of error.KrytenKoro 22:34, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
