Talk:Wally Burr
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Can I ask why Burr is so liked (it seems) by the fandom despite him appearing to be as erm, 'difficult to work with' as Michael Bay reputedly is? I don't think Bay has caused any strikes or forced the SAG to change the maximum recording section for actors, has he? --FFN 05:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Burr's work was done when most fans were very young. And even older fans of that day, in those years before the 'net, would not have been able to follow his work as closely--or hear from disgruntled "insiders" so intimately--as was available with Bay. --Thylacine 2000 05:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Burr is, by all accounts, very hard to work with. However, he is also by all accounts very good at his job, in the sense that he produces good recordings. People may not enjoy working with him, but they respect him. --Steve-o 23:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Jackpot's Pic
So, uh, this is fan-art and should probably go. Sorry to be a killjoy. --Monzo 00:25, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
- Technically yes, but dude, that art is awesome. Hooper_X 07:55, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
- Perhaps, but for those of us who don't attend BotCon, I have no idea what the "awkward moment" was or why he's crying in the picture. It would be nice to know why. --DrSpengler 12:23, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
- I don't think the fan-art rule should apply to drawings of real people. For characters, the art means more, since that's who they actually are in the world of the fiction. When we put art of Megatron on a page, we're saying, "This is how Megatron genuinely looks in some pocket of the multiverse." I don't think a caricature of a real person would be construed that way (except for special cases like Richard Branson, of course). As for the story: At a voice-actor panel at BC05, Hoop asked Wally Burr what it was like to work with Orson Wells. By the end of Burr's response, the man had brought himself to tears. Later in the con, I was taking art requests, and Hoop wanted me to draw a montage of his own adventures. The Burr portrait was part of that. - Jackpot 15:10, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
- I think unofficial artwork of real people should be avoided, though if there are no photographs of that person they might be acceptable. For folks that have official artwork, I'd think we'd want both an example of them in-universe and out if possible. Andy Wildman, for instance, should probably have a photo up there too. --Jimsorenson 15:21, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
- I do agree that photos are always preferable. If someone has a photo of Burr, I'd say we should use it for the mainpic and then put the drawing and the story of how he shed a tear at BC in Trivia. (If we keep the drawing at all; for the record, I didn't put it there, and I'm only defending its presence insofar as other people think it's worth including.) - Jackpot 15:43, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
- IIRC, the Burr picture originally went up in the freewheeling early days of "#wiigii! decides to take over someone's abandoned wiki", and it's just sort of stayed there since. I don't think we had even conceived of the idea of image policy at the time; it's basically an artifact in that regard.
- (Psst, Jack. Adding a picture of Burr is why I removed your art from his page...) --Monzo 15:53, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
- [Actually looks at page] Heh. So it is. I just saw this discussion appear on Recent Changes, and the way you phrased it sounded like a proposal, not an explanation-after-the-fact. Anyway, yeah, at this point the only justification I see for keeping the drawing is if the Burr-crying story is worthy of a Trivia note. I don't have an opinion one way or the other. Edit: Also, that photo needs its aspect ratio compressed vertically. - Jackpot 15:57, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
- I do agree that photos are always preferable. If someone has a photo of Burr, I'd say we should use it for the mainpic and then put the drawing and the story of how he shed a tear at BC in Trivia. (If we keep the drawing at all; for the record, I didn't put it there, and I'm only defending its presence insofar as other people think it's worth including.) - Jackpot 15:43, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
- I think unofficial artwork of real people should be avoided, though if there are no photographs of that person they might be acceptable. For folks that have official artwork, I'd think we'd want both an example of them in-universe and out if possible. Andy Wildman, for instance, should probably have a photo up there too. --Jimsorenson 15:21, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
- I don't think the fan-art rule should apply to drawings of real people. For characters, the art means more, since that's who they actually are in the world of the fiction. When we put art of Megatron on a page, we're saying, "This is how Megatron genuinely looks in some pocket of the multiverse." I don't think a caricature of a real person would be construed that way (except for special cases like Richard Branson, of course). As for the story: At a voice-actor panel at BC05, Hoop asked Wally Burr what it was like to work with Orson Wells. By the end of Burr's response, the man had brought himself to tears. Later in the con, I was taking art requests, and Hoop wanted me to draw a montage of his own adventures. The Burr portrait was part of that. - Jackpot 15:10, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
- Perhaps, but for those of us who don't attend BotCon, I have no idea what the "awkward moment" was or why he's crying in the picture. It would be nice to know why. --DrSpengler 12:23, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
