Talk:Frank Milkovich

Can't stand the dude's art, but I think the appraisal of that thread is completely unfair. --ItsWalky 04:50, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree. It doesn't seem like he loses composure so much as acts in a stubborn fashion and later disowns the thread.--MCRG 05:05, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Not to say it was all right for Hiro Prime and Valkysas to post their PMs from Crobot91, but some of the stuff there was pretty harsh. He seemingly could not deal with the criticism, and looked down upon fans who haven't 'made it' with the companies who have the TF license. So as somebody who witnessed the thread collapse in Board Real-Time, I'd say the appraisal is not completely unfair. --FFN 06:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

This article is pretty over-the-top. Who CARES how he acted in one losery thread? This wiki snarks at Pat Lee's art style because it's bad, and Pat Lee the person because he did bad things that actually hurt people. It's fine to complain about Milk's everybody's-an-Erector-set art style, but "he was mean to some nobodies in one thread" just strikes me as petty. And it could go on forever, too. We could just fill in every single fan on the Fandom page with every stupid assy thing they've ever said. As memory serves, we took pains to remove such sentiments from Raksha's page. --Thylacine 2000 02:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I thought at the very least the link would have been taken down. Hm. --M Sipher 03:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not looking to start an argument or anythign there, but would this be any different if it took place at the Allspark and involved you guys? --FFN 03:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Some of us were involved in wacky Raksha arguments on ATT literally for years. That's also where Adam Patyk pissed off some people. I could dig up hilarious stuff from Mouth04, and probably, as I said, 90%+ of the "fans gone official; Google never forgets (tm). There are personality-based boogers we could flick at a great deal of the voice actors--this has already been discussed on Kaplan's talk page and frankly it could be on Almighty Cullen's too. If and when Milkovich hurts official product by missing his deadlines, or defrauds his customers and business partners, then that can go in. But unless his private emails (and that's basically the source for these complaints, after they were bitchily reposted in public) actually hurt the franchise, then, again, let's not. We would literally never be able to stop. --Thylacine 2000 12:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I assume the anon user who has been pruning this article is the dude himself. --FFN 02:39, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Do we really need the art gallery, especially the fan art? It's only making the page ugly with vast wads of whitespace, especially egregious in the Doubledealer part. --M Sipher 12:32, 4 August 2009 (EDT)

Accidentally hit enter before I was done with the edit... the TPB section was pretty much completely redundant with the individual issues. --M Sipher 12:42, 4 August 2009 (EDT)

Ya know, I think if Milkovich is going to try and turn this article into his own personal online resume, we should add that quote of his from TFW2005 back to the article: "Lol, grow up guys! It's not like my goal in life is to draw comics. If you think that I, at the age of 32, am stilll (sic) desperately pinning my hopes on drawing comics, you're sadly mistaken, lol (that would actually be pretty pathetic on my part)." --DrSpengler 13:30, 4 August 2009 (EDT)

lol that's cool!Dead Metal 13:47, 4 August 2009 (EDT)

Eh. I disagree. Thy's argument above still stands. -- Repowers 15:42, 4 August 2009 (EDT)

As per the HELP section guidelines "Add only correct and objective information. Random personal theories are not helpful. Speculation to fill gaps should be minimized, and preferably eliminated entirely. Don't post rumors or hearsay; post only information you know and can verify." Adding a quote taken out of context is not necessary and comes across as quite petty and immature. The theory about this page becoming an online resume doesn't seem to be the case anymore since half the pictures were removed. It should also be noted that Mr. Milkovich did not start this page, rather he only contributed to it in a factual and positive manner (by adding scans of his professional transformers work). It is also interesting that all images pertaining to the less controversial inked comic pages were removed, while the so-called 'controversial' Beast Wars artwork was left alone, hmmmm. It is fairly obvious that a certain 'ghostbuster' (and his little circle of cyber-friends) has an agenda against Mr. Milkovich and does not know how to contribute in a positive nor professional manner.

Perhaps the quote above was a little incendiary, but DrSpengler is a well respected member of this community, and his words tend to have more weight than an anonymous member. -- SFH 16:06, 4 August 2009 (EDT)

I found it equally unprofessional of Milkovich to edit his article to remove the short critical analysis of his style, as well as the very gentle ribbing of his Silverbolt piece, then proceed to quite obviously try and turn it into his own personal online resume, adding a needlessly extensive and unsolicited art gallery of his work. I don't really care if the quote (which he cannot deny having typed, as it was sourced) gets removed, but I felt the guy simply needed a humbling. Oh, and no "circle of cyber-friends" was involved in my edit. Quite honestly, Milkovich isn't important enough or talented enough to warrant a secret cabal of internet evil-doers dedicated to ruining his art career (he seems pretty good at doing that himself). --DrSpengler (at work and cannot log in)

It was my impression that the inked pages were removed because Frank did not actually draw those himself, being Dan Khanna's pencils. The BW art, which is his linework work from the ground up, is much more indicative of his style. At any rate, I'm actually working on something now that will... split the difference, so to speak. I don't think that any artist's page on this wiki should be turned into a secondary dA account, but it SHOULD contain a lot more visuals... --M Sipher 16:19, 4 August 2009 (EDT)

You guys realize this is Frank himself, right? Not the first time he edited this page and now the IP adress is conveniently coming back after User:FrankMilkovich's edits were for the most part reverted. --Detour 18:59, 4 August 2009 (EDT)

wow i guess one should be amazed or embarrassed having a guy who monickers a defunct 80s cartoon franchise nerd trying to actually "humble" someone who's got at least some professional credentials .. no worries you have our sympathies mr ghostbuster, time to grow up junior and move out of mommy and daddys basement