Template talk:MarvelUKcover

A couple of points:

• Since Marvel UK issues often have more than one story (unlike the Marvel US issues), I'm not sure how accurate it is to only list one. Adding a second (or more) is trivial enough, but before I do... how far should we go with this? Only the story represented by the cover? All the original-to-the-UK stories in the issue (i.e., link a Marvel US story on its' first UK printing, but not beyond that unless it's an all-reprint issue)? All the TF material in the issue? Or all the material in the issue full-stop, just with the non-TF stories unlinked?
• Secondly, and perhaps more importantly (& the reason I never made this or {{MarvelUKinterior}})... is the copyright tag a fair summation of the situation? I know UK (or more precisely in this instance, England & Wales) copyright law is different from US law, but I don't know how different or how it affects the situation (also, the situation with Marvel UK itself - Panini bought Marvel UK, but I don't know exactly what they got beyond the staff and the licence to publish the titles Marvel UK had licences to).

- SanityOrMadness 19:59, 26 October 2009 (EDT)

I dunno. I figured "make it now, it can always be changed later". I don't think it needs all the extra art credits though, considering this one's just for covers, which are usually only done by one person. I only added colours, letters and inks knowing they'd go unused most of the time. - Magnus Maximus 20:15, 26 October 2009 (EDT)

I out-and-out didn't bother with them on {{MarvelUScover}} - where we had credits for the covers (which was rare, and usually dependent on legible signatures), I just did it as "Cover art by (penciller), (inker) and (colourist)". Thing is though that if you're going so far (in adding inks & colours variables so that you can automate the categories), you have to go the whole hog IMO. Certainly, you shouldn't have "cover art: X; inks: Y; colours: Z". The inker & colourist contribute to the art, so they either get included in the "cover art" credit or the penciller is listed as such (it's why there's a credit for "line-art", to cover the instance where one guy does the pencils and inks, and someone else did the colours) - SanityOrMadness 20:25, 26 October 2009 (EDT)

In that case it'd be better to drop them all. - Magnus Maximus 20:47, 26 October 2009 (EDT)

Okay, but one other thing - the credits on {{art}}, {{MarvelUScover}}, {{MarvelUSinterior}}, {{MarvelG2interior}} all require the links to be done manually (i.e., the guy entering the template types coverart=[[Artist Name]] rather than coverart=Artist Name) because that breaks down if you want to link to several pages with one credit (e.g., a lot of the Marvel US issues are inked by two guys - [[Ian Akin]] and [[Brian Garvey]] - rather than one), as would the "Images by..." autocategorisation you've set up here... - SanityOrMadness 20:55, 26 October 2009 (EDT)

I don't get what you're saying. All templates break if you fill them in wrong. - Magnus Maximus 12:22, 27 October 2009 (EDT)

Plus, we could always use the nocategories field and add in the cats separately if there's a problem. - Magnus Maximus 14:54, 27 October 2009 (EDT)

Boiled down to the core then - its behaviour is different from all its' brethren. If we want to make things simple for newbies, they should all act in the same way. - SanityOrMadness 12:39, 27 October 2009 (EDT)

Well, I had the initial idea for the autocat system for the USinterior template specifically. I'm using this one as a kind of prototype to see how the idea goes down and work through the teething problems, but ultimately I think it'd be a lot easier to use this method on the other templates, too, at which point they'll all be the same again. - Magnus Maximus 12:53, 27 October 2009 (EDT)