Talk:New body

Move?

I think we can move the article into "New form" or "New appearance" and make a notion about New body (BW Silverbolt and BM Jetstorm) and New appearance(which means the characters still use their old body, such as TM2 Cheetor). --TX55^TALK 06:01, 28 October 2009 (EDT)

This article really does need a better name, though I can't seem to think of one that fits. --KilMichaelMcC 04:06, 29 October 2009 (EDT)

I agree. "Exostructural upgrade", maybe? I don't think there is a consistent official term.... --Thylacine 2000 10:08, 29 October 2009 (EDT)

I never thought "new body" was a good name for the article, but couldn't think of anything better. "Exostructural upgrade" sounds too official and is not really accurate. A lot of times a the new body is more powerful, which would be more than just a exostructural upgrade. Likewise "new appearance" since it would not be just the appearance that is new, they would have new abilities as well. - Starfield 10:46, 29 October 2009 (EDT)

Coverage

So, how much exactly does this article cover? All the examples so far seem to be of characters getting a new toy mould, but what about those that didn't? RiD for example - when the Autobot Brothers got temporary upgrades thanks to the burning angst of Magnus. They were new bodies in that they looked different (in the paint schemes) and were more powerful, but they were the same moulds. Ditto RiD Megatron -> Galvatron. Do they count? How about binary bonding? They were new moulds, but they were meant to be the same bodies, and the upgrade they represented was a lot more significant than Bumblebee -> Goldbug, for example. - Magnus Maximus 13:14, 29 October 2009 (EDT)

Binary bonding and spontaneous recoloration have their own articles, are not really examples of getting a new body I don't think. RID Galvatron went from a six-changer to a ten-changer, and in-fiction he seems to be depicted as getting a new body, so I think he counts. - Starfield 13:34, 29 October 2009 (EDT)

Also, when did anyone in Cybertron ever get a new body by "believing in himself" and "causing a spontaneous upgrade into a new body"? That never happened, it was always something to do with the Cyber Planet Keys/Primus/whatever, but there was still always a reason for it. -Mazenoise 17:02, 29 October 2009 (EDT)

I originally had "Omega lock + burning justice". When I watched the show, I understood it to be the Omega lock that actually did the upgrading, but it didn't do it on its own, it was definitely triggered by the Transformer believing in himself or some such. - Starfield 17:08, 29 October 2009 (EDT)

That part should nevertheless be reformatted because as it is now, it's saying that TFs got new bodies in Cybertron out of nowhere, which never happened. -Mazenoise 17:11, 29 October 2009 (EDT)