Talk:President of the United States

I suggest rather that we talk about all the various Presidents of the United States seen in Transformers in just one comprehensive article. It's just a title and not a single man. --ItsWalky 17:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Or woman! ('Cause, Cybertron.) --KilMichaelMcC 17:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I am so sad she wasn't Alexis. --ItsWalky 17:41, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I woudl generally agree- but this guy is a major player in the Keepers trilogy. he has evil pots, and orders secret assasinations, and is generally a no-good shit. Just food for thought.

Move it if you like, I'll adapt. -Derik 18:22, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I think real-world Earth things that show up in multiple continuities should get a single comprehensive page. For example, if Madonna was mentioned in the Armada comic, I don't think we should have a Madonna (G1) page and a Madonna (UT) page. Likewise, we have one Atlantis -- agh, Madonna just showed up on CNN, odd timing -- page and single pages for New York, Tokyo, etc. I think President of the United States falls under that precedent. --ItsWalky 18:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I've been noticing a LOT of skipped heading levels recently, usually 1-3, whichs eems frankly bizare to me. -Derik 04:06, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, She Is a Girl

I have no problem with letting the word "girl" stand if it's an in-joke, but why do people have a problem with "And good for her."? JW 20:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I dunno. I know what you're going for, but despite that, it sounds kinda condescending. I keep wanting to add "And she's so articulate!" --ItsWalky 20:19, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I know what you're going for, but despite that, it sounds kinda condescending. Eh, fair point. I'll mull it over. JW 20:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Slick Willie

Where's the Slick reference from?

Also, the S7 archives (flashing by in the movie) included mentions of several former Presidents by last name, including Clinton, but never (I think) identified as Presidents. -Derik 11:42, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

Simmons says something like "every U.S. president since [whoever was president when they built the thing; Hoover?] has seen this facility. Ike, JFK, LBJ, Tricky Dick, blahblahblah, Ronnie (or Teflon Ronnie?), blahblah, Slick Willie, and Dubya, have all seen what you're about to see." Unfortunately, we'll probably never know the exact wording, unless someone happens to have bootlegged an IMAX showing--and after two years no signs of that have surfaced. --Thylacine 2000 11:52, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

Reorganize?

The current organization of this page is... a bit odd. (and inaccurate, since Plague of the Insecticons isn't, properly speaking, part of the core Marvel comics continuity.)

It's been observed that one of the few out-fiction we "allow" ourselves to know is the President's 'number.' (EG: the 16th president of the United States.) How would people feel about reorganizing this page to be by number? So we'd have a section for the 39th president, the 40th president, etc. I think there will be less messiness using this method than we currently face.

This would have the advantage of strongly delineating between fictional and nonfictional Presidents of the United States. Fictional ones don't get referred to by numbers. Example: According to The Keepers Trilogy, the Dreamwave POTUS was facing re-election in 2002, so it's hard to say what "President Number" he is. (I think that's possible under the U.S. Constitution too... some circumstance with a death in-office can push a presidential election on the next 2-year cycle.)

We've held off creating a visual/template language to clearly mark in-fiction/out-fiction/non-fictional content... but this strikes me as one of the pages it'd be useful to make the distinction on. We have fictional vice-presidents succeeding non-fictional ones!

For a page like Simon Furman it's clear because we have a "Fiction" section. In this cause it's fiction-about-nonfictional-people mixed with fiction-about-fictional-people. And as much as we strive for outfiction-agnosticism... I feel like a distinction really ought to be made. -Derik 16:18, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

Sounds pretty good, but where would the fictional ones go? Tacked on the end?

No there isn't any circumstance where a presidential election would have happened in '02. - Starfield 16:37, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

Yeah - as I understand it, the only important thing in constitutional terms about the two-year mark is that, if the president dies in office before it, the VP/replacement can only be elected once (i.e., his time as a replacement counts as their first term), but if there's less than two years to go, then they can have two full terms on top of it. - SanityOrMadness 16:51, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

Obama

No snarky comment on Obama? Fixed. 68.61.240.172 10:07, 23 November 2009 (EST)

I didn't get it, but hope you will find the alternative adequately snarky. --Thylacine 2000 10:15, 23 November 2009 (EST)

Heck, it's not like that quote was even that snarky - that was exactly what Obama tried to do in ROTF. True to life n such! - McFeely, not signed in

President Colton?

No mention of the President of the U.S. in Shattered Glass? 68.61.240.172 10:12, 23 November 2009 (EST)