Talk:Ultra Magnus (G1)

Since Ultra Magnus didn't feature in the US comic, I'd suggest that we forego the usual italics for UK material on this entry, but just note that Magnus was only in the UK comics.--G.B. Blackrock 13:29, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

The cartoon entry conflates events from japanese continuity and american. That's not right. Also the link under reconfiguration matrix talks about him dying and being granted a new body ect... where's that from, since it hasn't been followed up here yet.

It's from eHobby Laser Magnus' profile. --ItsWalky 03:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Dion

Just curious. Fact: Magnus' inner robot and Optimus' robot mode are identical. How does this fact benefit the argument that Dion is Ultra Magnus? Dion is not identical to Orion Pax, is he? Crockalley 14:44, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Does the article state that this benefits the argument? I'm confused why you would bring it up. --ItsWalky 15:38, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah. Better reading comprehension! I just noticed the "Just curious." I think the reason the "Dion is Ultra Magnus" theory believes Ultra Magnus and Optimus Prime are brothers is because Alpha Trion rebuilt them both. After all, Alpha Trion rebuilding Orion Pax makes him his father, apparently, so if Alpha Trion rebuilt both of them, and he's both of their fathers, that makes them brothers. (It also makes Elita One their sister, which is why I like to think that little revelation made Prime go all "Uh... gotta go home now, see you never" at the end, but ahahahaha...) Ultra Magnus' inner robot and Optimus Prime look the same, which is another argument for Alpha Trion rebuilding both of them.

Me, I don't think I care one way or the other. I don't think it's what the writers intended, certainly, but that can always be expanded on by later writers if they wish. --ItsWalky 15:44, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

You don't think that's what the writers intentioned? Late season 2 episode, the movie had already been planned and was well into production, and they went out of their way to make the Elita-1 connection... -Derik 17:19, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that's what the writers intended because some writers have explicitly said in interviews that they weren't writing in anticipation of the movie at all. Rather, they were expressly ignoring it. If Dion was "meant" to be somebody, it would've had to have been a contemporary, like Ironhide. --ItsWalky 19:17, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

...I guess I really dont' have a strong opinion on this. I don't think the note should read 'may possibly be', since I think the Magnus/Dion connection is well established by this point through various sources. I would prefer somethign like- "He's probably Dion, though there is no explicit proof."

(Of course, then you need to add a note about how in the Marvel UK continuity, Magnus was a fairly ecently-recreated Autobot, and has no conenction to Prime at all.) -Derik 17:19, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Uh, no. Give me these sources where the Magnus/Dion connection is 'well-established'. - RolonBolon 19:08, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

"well-established" = "some fans won't shut up about it despite the lack of any, you know, actual proof or anything." --M Sipher 19:10, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

*rolls eyes* Well, the BEST one wouldbe RiD, where magnus says he and Prime were build (or rebuilt, i forgret ehich and haven't hit that ep with my DVD's yet) by Alha Trion together.

But hey, let's go on pretending RiD is a completely seperate, unrelated-to-G1-at-all continuity. The relationship may be bastard cousin...

Does Magnus's Team Dion in Dreamwave count? Or does that fall into 'no, that's an easter egg'? 'cuz... it's an easter egg... about him bing Dion. -Derik 19:45, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't see how either have anything remotely to do with the G1 cartoon. --ItsWalky 19:50, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

If Dion and Iron Pax exist in mroe than just cartoon continuity, I dont' have to be discussing the cartoon. -Derik 03:34, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

So all your evidence comes from continuities where there's no evidence that Dion (or Orion Pax, for that matter) existed at all. I remain unconvinced. - RolonBolon 20:17, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

In Dreamwave continuity, Optimsu was once known as Optronix- "or Orion to his friends." -Derik 03:34, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

And? Singularity 05:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

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