Template talk:Apocrypha

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{{apocrypha}} is a template to be used in the rare event of an unofficial piece of fiction from an official creator that is is so informative as to the creator's thought process and/or so influential to the fandom as to be worth documenting. All information on these pages falls into the gray area between canon and non-canon that is pseudocanon. Note that the vast, vast, VAST majority of unofficial work is considered to be non-germane to this wiki. Before using this template, reach a broad consensus on an appropriate talk page to ensure that the work in question legitimately qualifies as pseudocanon.

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This is Apocrypha

The content of this page is considered to be apocryphal. While the vast, vast, VAST majority of unofficial work is considered to be non-germane to this wiki, occasionally an unofficial piece of fiction from an official creator is so informative as to the creator's thought process and/or so influential to the fandom as to be worth documenting. All information on this page falls into the gray area between canon and non-canon that is pseudocanon.

Draft 1 Discussion

OK, I think that this is a decent starting point for an Apocrypha template. It would be used for pages like Hail and Farewell, Dead Men's Boots and Alignment. I tried to include adequate cautions against its misuse, both in the documentation of the template and in the actual template itself. Thoughts? --Jimsorenson 00:27, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

We should add a good image to this template. First thoughts: Paddles or Something from Furman's unnofficiall G2 tie-up story...--99.103.104.139 13:44, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

I'd almost say change it to Template: Legends and use the Transformers Legends logo as the picture. --Khajidha 13:57, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

It would be totally inappropriate to suggest Legends or its characters like Paddles are as "apocryphal" as a fanfic story like Alignment. Legends had all the same Hasbro trademarks and official publication process as any ROTF storybook. The idea that it somehow "doesn't count" is just Cian's paradoxical "Sideswipe-died-in-TFTM" Johnny Come Lately bullshit and should be ignored. --Thylacine 2000 14:16, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

I was just about to say the opposite. As written, this template only addresses unofficial-but-relevant sources. But I think it could do double duty and also cover official stuff that declares itself non-canon, such as "Legends" and the published Mosaics. - Jackpot 18:56, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

Too many "vast"s. I know what you are trying to say, though. How about "As a rule, unofficial work is considered to be non-germane to this wiki, but occasionally an unofficial..." - Starfield 14:04, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

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{{apocrypha}} is a template to be used in the rare event of a pseudocanon story or idea worth documenting. The vast majority of Transformers fiction falls into one of two categories; official works, which are [canon], and unofficial works, i.e. fanfiction, which are non-canon. However, there is also the gray area that is [pseudocanon]. Fiction that is considered pseudocanon generally falls into one of two categories.

• Unofficial fiction from an official creator that is so informative as to the creator's thought process and/or so influential to the fandom as to be worth documenting can be pseudocanon.
• Fiction that is published in such a way as to render it unofficial, such as fan works published as ancillary or bonus images/fiction with other licensed work, can also be considered pseudocanon.

Before using this template, reach a broad consensus on an appropriate talk page to ensure that the work in question legitimately qualifies as pseudocanon worthy of documentation

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The content of this page is considered to be apocryphal. Fiction that is considered pseudocanon generally falls into one of two categories. It is most likely either unofficial fiction from an official creator that is so informative as to the creator's thought process and/or so influential to the fandom as to be worth documenting, or fiction that is published in such a way as to render it unofficial, such as fan works published as ancillary or bonus images/fiction with other official work. As such, new ideas and concepts introduced here may not hold true for work that is completely canonical.

Draft 2 Discussion

Ok, made another version that includes most of the above feedback. I'm not sure which I prefer. Thoughts?--Jimsorenson 20:39, 21 June 2010 (EDT)