Talk:Transformers (2010 toyline)

Disambiguation

Uh, the 2007 line was also just "Transformers". And so was the latter end of the original toyline. —Interrobang 19:25, 15 February 2010 (EST)

Yeah, if we're following this line of naming, this has to go at Transformers (2010 toyline), akin to Universe (2008 toyline). --ItsWalky 19:36, 15 February 2010 (EST)

Separate movie and non-movie figures?

Shoudl we separate the Movie and non-Movie figures apart so as to not confuse which characters are and aren't Movie ones? Like, perhaps put all those under the "Hunt for the Decepticons" subline in one list, and those that aren't in a second list. Or, if that's too much trouble, then perhaps we could somehow label those that are Movie/HftD figures to identify them? --Sabrblade 19:15, 7 March 2010 (EST)

At the moment, I think all of them are under the HftD subline so far, but that'll likely change when that promotion is over. And, man, IF we could separate these guys by continuity, that'd actually be really great, and I wouldn't be pulling my friggin' hair out. But we really don't know, besides the Obviously Movie Guys Because They're In The Movie. --ItsWalky 19:17, 7 March 2010 (EST)

Heh, got it. Hasbro sure loves "toying" with us, don't they. --Sabrblade 19:22, 7 March 2010 (EST)

There ARE guys with Movie-style symbols and guys with normal-style symbols, but just like in previous lines, the factory isn't always really great with giving toys the desired one 100% of the time. So that's... really gray. --ItsWalky 19:26, 7 March 2010 (EST)

Really, REALLY confused...

How is a toyline that is "a general celebration of Transformers" (ie THIS one) different from one that "aims to recreate older Transformers characters as new toys and celebrate the history of the brand" (Generations)? Is there ANY possibility that this is another case of Speed Stars/Action Fleet type confusion? Are we talking about the same toyline with two different names here? Khajidha 10:36, 10 March 2010 (EST) (on a borrowed computer, forgot to log in)

I presume this is like Transformers Universe 3.0, except now Movieverse Transformers will be part of the lineup (if you're confused now, Khajidha, wait until next year when the next movie comes out. Hoo, boy). - Zadok Rox 14:24, 10 March 2010 (EST)

Just calling it the way Hasbro did at Toy Fair 2010. We took notes. Well, Sipher took notes. But I copied them. --ItsWalky 14:58, 10 March 2010 (EST)

The other part of that is the Generations line is Deluxe class only- any "classic" Voyagers or Ultras will probably show up in this line, whereas in 2008 they would have been part of Universe. --129.116.80.237 10:40, 26 April 2010 (EST)

This Fall?

Does this line starts this fall?, --Eagc7 18 March 2010

Tracker Hound

Isn't "Tracker Hound" just "Hound" with a random adjective added, like "Fireburst Optimus Prime" and "Cyberfire Bumblebee"? - Starfield 10:57, 5 May 2010 (EDT)

OK, thinking about it some more, I'd say "Tracker Hound" is obviously "Hound" with a random adjective added. And since Hasbro only adds random adjectives to the names of established characters, this Hound must be an established character. Which established character? There is only one real choice in this case, the Hound he is redecoed from (which is usually when Hasbro adds a random adjective) so I'm gonna say he is Hound (G1). Any objections? - Starfield 11:33, 5 May 2010 (EDT)

Your logic seems flawless.--Jimsorenson 11:38, 5 May 2010 (EDT)

First Real Edit

Hi. I noticed this page was missing the figures revealed here. [1] So I added them. This is my first time trying to add to a page so telll me if i did it right ok?--Fredbob 17:29, 15 May 2010 (EDT)

You're technique seems to be sound, but I don't know if a supposed Walmart listing (for which there is no link to despite the fact the list is posted on TFW2005.com's website) is solid evidence enough to warrant posting on this wiki. If you, Fredbob, suggested that Grapple could be a retool of Universe (2008) Inferno, you may want to refrain from such speculation and post them in the Community section (note the Navigation list on the top left of this page). - Zadok Rox 19:55, 15 May 2010 (EDT)

If it should to be deleated thats fine--Fredbob 20:19, 15 May 2010 (EDT)

Hasbro's Masterpiece Grimlock

In package images of Hasbro's Masterpiece Grimlock show it to in packaging under the simple "Transformers" name (like all the other products in this toyline). But, the deep red color scheme of the packaging matches that of the Generations line instead of the yellow in this line. To further complicate things, the cross-sell advertises the Leader Class Optimus Prime figure (the one with hooks and the Buster OP mouthplate-less head), which is in this toyline. So, which toyline would this figure belong in? The brand and cross-sell suggest this toyline, but the color scheme and history with Starscream and Skywarp suggest the Generations line. --Sabrblade 14:18, 31 May 2010 (EDT)

Power Core Combiners?

So, if the PCC toys are a subline within the franchise, per the description on their page...shouldn't they be included somewhere in the list here? I'm in the middle of something right now, so I can't do more than make a note of it, but I can try compiling the names and links into a subsection later today.--Apcog 10:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

Hasbro seemed to indicate at Toy Fair that Power Core Combiners are their own franchise. --ItsWalky 11:45, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

Well, Hasbro's specifically vague words are even more weird as of late. Interpreting what the hell they're saying in regards to what-fits-where is getting trickier and trickier. Honestly, I'm inclined to treat PCC as a 2010 subline. --M Sipher 11:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

Own franchise or own toyline? It's getting to the point that you need to have a definition of terms session with Hasbro before you can communicate with them. --Khajidha 12:16, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

Fictionally they seem to be in-continuity with other characters from the 2010 franchise in the post-ROTF live-action continuity. - Starfield 12:59, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

Axor

Has it been comfirmed that he is a Repaint/Remold of Lockdown (ROTF) yet?--Fredbob 18:59, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

Well he's shown up in Hasbro's online game and his altform there is clearly a white lockdown. So that seems to be a big though implied yes. --ZacWilliam 20:36, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

Should that be added to the articl then?--Fredbob 21:06, 14 June 2010 (EDT) I assume yes as well as these new pics[2] mean its fine to add.--Fredbob 23:49, 16 June 2010 (EDT)

Character information

How has this site gotten info on the new characters? It says here that the toys haven't been released yet, so are the bios available online or something? Item42 07:10, 26 June 2010 (EDT)