Talk:Optimus Prime (WFC)

This disambig tag fills me with glee. --Andrusi 13:12, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

Though why people find this funny confuses me. ---Blackout- 13:22, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

I just imagine Shrapnel saying it, it. Or would that be Optimus Prime (Prime), (Prime)? --Khajidha 13:34, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

I guess the archivist thing is from Exodus? 'cause in the WfC game he instead mentions having been a dock worker.Bobbington 14:44, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

When did he mention that? I honestly don't remember him saying that, but my memory is not exactly something to go on. -- Semysane 16:06, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

It's during the in-game banter, I'd say during the second autobot chapter but could be the third. If memory serves, a teammate voices his approval of Optimus' taking matters in his own hands and acting like a leader and Optimus retorts as soon as the war's over he'll go back to working at the docks. Bobbington 03:47, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

Yay, more inconsistencies! --ItsWalky 14:46, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

And I thought nothing could be more inconsistent with established continuity than AHM. ---Blackout- 15:49, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

And is it 100 percent certain the Optimus in WFC and the one in Prime will be the same guy, cause I've been tracking the news, and beyond a lot of speculation and vague suggestion, nothing seems confirmed 148.197.8.240 00.01 30 Jube 2010

Everyone at Hasbro sure seems to think so. Exodus, which is written apparently from the Prime show backstory, includes the events of WFC loosely within its second half. --ItsWalky 19:11, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

Even if they're not in the exact same universe, they're certainly in the same continuity family, so they'd get the same page. Just as Sunbow Prime and IDW Prime are both on the G1 page.Kaje 19:31, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

And there are others. Well, I haven't read Exodus but based on the summary on this wiki it's more like two different stories that reach the same end point. For one, in WfC Optimus doesn't become a Prime at the beginning of the war, but after Zeta's death, mere days before the evacuation. And the Matrix is introduced in a completely different way, possibly doesnt even exist until the end of chapter 8. Bobbington 08:29, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

Exodus tries to have it both ways. Once you get to the end of the book and Sentinel dies, Optimus gets the Matrix then, and Alpha Trion notes that Prime wasn't truly a Prime until this moment, regardless of what the council said. So he was dubbed a Prime by the council at the beginning, but it wasn't really true until just before they left Earth. --ItsWalky 08:34, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, I guess it's an honorable fix, yet still doesn't mesh, mind you. In the game it's mentioned Optimus first refused to be a Prime, which is why he doesn't have the title (whether or not this landed Zeta the job is unclear since the way they word it at times I may almost think they could have several Primes at once) and the Matrix is unrelated to the Council and the Prime title they bestow.Bobbington 08:42, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

In the game, it's Optimus, not Orion Pax. Does the book override the game, or vice versa? -ThiAthEhn

The events of the game happen within the last half of the novel, after Optimus has stopped being Orion Pax. --ItsWalky 09:52, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

The tricky bit is still that the game starts before he decides to become Optimus Prime, ie in the novel he goes from Orion Pax to Optimus Prime, while in the game he goes from Optimus to Optimus Prime.Bobbington 12:52, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, the article's current bio doesn't take into account the WFC game at all. --FFN 13:59, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

Hmm. The game does have a scene where Megatron and Optimus talk about something that happened between them before the game started. --FFN 03:19, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

So, do we have to move WFC stuff I've written to new character articles?

Argh. --FFN 13:48, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

Just like I predicted, yes. Dead Metal 14:00, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

I'm too tired to clean this giant mess right now. --FFN 14:01, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

Profile Should Be Rewritten

The Character profile here right now is all Exodus stuff. But almost all of it is stuff that is totally different in WfC. The Character profiles are supposed to be generic and fit all version of the character. I think this one needs to be moved to the Exodus sub-section and a new more general Prime (Prime) (that's fun) profile written, Yes?--ZacWilliam 08:57, 3 July 2010 (EDT)

I agree, it's a bit too specific about the Exodus stuff considering what a big deal WFC is as a form of Prime media. I believe the reason it totally lacks WFC stuff is because Walky wrote it and apparently hasn't played WFC yet. Well, I presume on the last, anyway. --FFN 10:55, 3 July 2010 (EDT)

I guess nobody cares then. --FFN 20:57, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

G1

So Exodus is based off the prime cartoon but war for cybertron is a prequel to g1.And if you disagree hasbro themselves sayed that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 98.204.17.1 (talk • contribs).

Yes, it is, no it isn't, no they haven't, sign your posts, Do The Research. Thank you for your time. ---Blackout- 15:41, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

I wouldn't jump to conclusions right now. Videogames based on franchises tend to get retconned, like what happened to the Ultimate Spider-Man video game. Also, the show has been described as a mix of Animated and Live-Action films, which the game doesn't really reflect. If we are going to reclassify characters we should use something like "Optimus Prime (WFC)" until everything gets really confirmed.ACIDSTORM92 22:19, 5 July 2010 (EDT)