Talk:Optimus Prime (WFC)

This disambig tag fills me with glee. --Andrusi 13:12, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

Though why people find this funny confuses me. ---Blackout- 13:22, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

I just imagine Shrapnel saying it, it. Or would that be Optimus Prime (Prime), (Prime)? --Khajidha 13:34, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

I guess the archivist thing is from Exodus? 'cause in the WfC game he instead mentions having been a dock worker.Bobbington 14:44, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

When did he mention that? I honestly don't remember him saying that, but my memory is not exactly something to go on. -- Semysane 16:06, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

It's during the in-game banter, I'd say during the second autobot chapter but could be the third. If memory serves, a teammate voices his approval of Optimus' taking matters in his own hands and acting like a leader and Optimus retorts as soon as the war's over he'll go back to working at the docks. Bobbington 03:47, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

Yay, more inconsistencies! --ItsWalky 14:46, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

And I thought nothing could be more inconsistent with established continuity than AHM. ---Blackout- 15:49, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

And is it 100 percent certain the Optimus in WFC and the one in Prime will be the same guy, cause I've been tracking the news, and beyond a lot of speculation and vague suggestion, nothing seems confirmed 148.197.8.240 00.01 30 Jube 2010

Everyone at Hasbro sure seems to think so. Exodus, which is written apparently from the Prime show backstory, includes the events of WFC loosely within its second half. --ItsWalky 19:11, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

Even if they're not in the exact same universe, they're certainly in the same continuity family, so they'd get the same page. Just as Sunbow Prime and IDW Prime are both on the G1 page.Kaje 19:31, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

And there are others. Well, I haven't read Exodus but based on the summary on this wiki it's more like two different stories that reach the same end point. For one, in WfC Optimus doesn't become a Prime at the beginning of the war, but after Zeta's death, mere days before the evacuation. And the Matrix is introduced in a completely different way, possibly doesnt even exist until the end of chapter 8. Bobbington 08:29, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

Exodus tries to have it both ways. Once you get to the end of the book and Sentinel dies, Optimus gets the Matrix then, and Alpha Trion notes that Prime wasn't truly a Prime until this moment, regardless of what the council said. So he was dubbed a Prime by the council at the beginning, but it wasn't really true until just before they left Earth. --ItsWalky 08:34, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, I guess it's an honorable fix, yet still doesn't mesh, mind you. In the game it's mentioned Optimus first refused to be a Prime, which is why he doesn't have the title (whether or not this landed Zeta the job is unclear since the way they word it at times I may almost think they could have several Primes at once) and the Matrix is unrelated to the Council and the Prime title they bestow.Bobbington 08:42, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

Why don't we just change the opening to "The young bot who would become Optimus Prime" rather than have it at Optimus or Orion Pax, and wait until Prime premiers and see if it ever goes with one or the other?

In the game, it's Optimus, not Orion Pax. Does the book override the game, or vice versa? -ThiAthEhn

The events of the game happen within the last half of the novel, after Optimus has stopped being Orion Pax. --ItsWalky 09:52, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

The tricky bit is still that the game starts before he decides to become Optimus Prime, ie in the novel he goes from Orion Pax to Optimus Prime, while in the game he goes from Optimus to Optimus Prime.Bobbington 12:52, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, the article's current bio doesn't take into account the WFC game at all. --FFN 13:59, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

Hmm. The game does have a scene where Megatron and Optimus talk about something that happened between them before the game started. --FFN 03:19, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

Small correction needed in Exiles section: "Blurr, Prime and Ransack." should be "Blurr, Override and Ransack." --Proximus 19:08, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

So, do we have to move WFC stuff I've written to new character articles?

Argh. --FFN 13:48, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

Just like I predicted, yes. Dead Metal 14:00, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

I'm too tired to clean this giant mess right now. --FFN 14:01, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

Profile Should Be Rewritten

The Character profile here right now is all Exodus stuff. But almost all of it is stuff that is totally different in WfC. The Character profiles are supposed to be generic and fit all version of the character. I think this one needs to be moved to the Exodus sub-section and a new more general Prime (Prime) (that's fun) profile written, Yes?--ZacWilliam 08:57, 3 July 2010 (EDT)

I agree, it's a bit too specific about the Exodus stuff considering what a big deal WFC is as a form of Prime media. I believe the reason it totally lacks WFC stuff is because Walky wrote it and apparently hasn't played WFC yet. Well, I presume on the last, anyway. --FFN 10:55, 3 July 2010 (EDT)

I guess nobody cares then. --FFN 20:57, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

I care, and I think it does need to be rewritten but I think that'll be a LOT easier to do once Prime is on TV and we have more to work with. --76.28.76.206 07:23, 11 August 2010 (EDT)

Exodus appears to be the official backstory of the Prime continuity, judging by the official timeline. For all the marketing hype about how WFC was totally in-continuity and everything, it appears the video game is, as video games usually are, a micro-continuity. - Starfield 11:44, 11 August 2010 (EDT)

G1

So Exodus is based off the prime cartoon but war for cybertron is a prequel to g1.And if you disagree hasbro themselves sayed that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 98.204.17.1 (talk • contribs){{#if:14:54, July 5, 2010 (EDT)| 14:54, July 5, 2010 (EDT)|}}.

Yes, it is, no it isn't, no they haven't, sign your posts, Do The Research. Thank you for your time. ---Blackout- 15:41, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

I wouldn't jump to conclusions right now. Videogames based on franchises tend to get retconned, like what happened to the Ultimate Spider-Man video game. Also, the show has been described as a mix of Animated and Live-Action films, which the game doesn't really reflect. If we are going to reclassify characters we should use something like "Optimus Prime (WFC)" until everything gets really confirmed.ACIDSTORM92 22:19, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

THANK YOU someone gets it. "unregistered" 11:35, 6 July 2010 (EDT)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 98.204.17.1 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

For Primus' sake, it was confirmed at Comic-Con that Prime follows on from WFC. Alientraveller 16:33, 30 July 2010 (EDT)

Toy

The fig looks awesome with Tankor's guns on his forearms! Hida Atarasi 14:33, 21 August 2010 (EDT)

And this is relevant how? ---Blackout- 15:26, 21 August 2010 (EDT)

Move

So yeah, I've been suggesting this for a while, and this goes for all WFC (including Exodus) articles, which we're really treating as a separate franchise now we've gone with Aligned as the continuity family's name for now. Alientraveller 05:02, 28 February 2011 (EST)

I disagree with moving this article, because WFC isn't really a separate franchise. It's some tie-in games that Hasbro licensed to launch their new continuity with. The related toys didn't even have their own logo, they were released as "Generations". --abates 07:17, 28 February 2011 (EST)

Moving it just sort of feels "wrong" to me in a way I can't properly articulate. - Chris McFeely 07:58, 28 February 2011 (EST)

I disagree with moving any of these articles, for the reasons articulated by abates. --Khajidha 08:01, 28 February 2011 (EST)

No. —Interrobang 08:09, 28 February 2011 (EST)

I don't even consider War for Cybertron to be a franchise, so no. --NCZ 08:44, 28 February 2011 (EST)

No chance in Hades. --Detour 08:49, 28 February 2011 (EST)

Right now I can see two distinct reasons beyond "no" (this isn't a poll actually). One, WFC is no less a franchise than Power Core Combiners, and it was a game accompanied by a novel, a comic and toys. At one point Prime toys were going to be released as Generations, but it's still a Transformers franchise. Afterall, Tracks was released as part of the unsubtitled range last year, but he's still a G1 character.

Chris, I know how you feel about moving it to (WFC) as Prime is where we're really getting to know these characters, that's why we have the Prime designs as the main images. If you are for uniformity, perhaps it is time to move Optimus Prime (Movie) to "Optimus Prime (LVF)", and this to "Optimus Prime (Aligned)"?

Regardless, I will be adding WFC Autobots and Decepticons cats to these pages. Alientraveller 09:45, 28 February 2011 (EST)

Remember "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds", or in more wiki-related terms "in situations where the standards intended to prevent confusion would instead contribute to it, common sense should rule." That's why all the Shattered Glass characters are at (SG) even though some of them are technically (Timelines).--Khajidha 12:12, 28 February 2011 (EST)

"Optimus Prime (Prime)" debuted before "Prime" even existed. He predates Prime. So I don't like "Optimus Prime (Prime)." Categorizing Aligned things by franchise might be obsolete. The toyline is no longer organized by franchise. I think "Optimus Prime (Aligned)" is the way to go. - Starfield 12:36, 28 February 2011 (EST)

I lean towards Optimus Prime (Aligned) myself because it's Right, though I also think there's a good argument for keeping it Prime (Prime) because its Simpler for Users. So...?--76.28.76.206 12:45, 28 February 2011 (EST)

No one outside the wiki will know what "aligned" means, and we don't disambiguate by continuity family anyway. --abates 13:48, 28 February 2011 (EST)

I didn't realize this conversation existed, so I started another one on the same topic over here and covered basically everything people have brought up. For the record, I agree entirely with what Alientraveller has said. "(WFC)" for most of these guys, "(Prime)" for the ones that originated in the cartoon, and "(Aligned)" for none of them because we disambig by franchise, not family. - Jackpot 14:06, 28 February 2011 (EST)

I feel if we're going to talk about moving a bunch of high-profile characters, it should probably be discussed somewhere more central like the community portal. --abates 16:43, 28 February 2011 (EST)

I believe we should keep O.P. (Prime) seperate from his WFC page. In my opinion, they are different enough to warrent seperation.--Megatron Prime 10:34, 2 March 2011 (EST)

That is absolutely not going to happen. --ItsWalky 12:32, 2 March 2011 (EST)

Yeah, because nobody is allowed to change in personality over the course of untold millions of years. --Detour 12:45, 2 March 2011 (EST)

He's not talking about the personality. At least, I hope not, since they're both Stock Movie Peter Cullen Prime. --ItsWalky 13:32, 2 March 2011 (EST)

Well, my point about change still stands just as well in regards to appearance as it does in regards to personality. --Detour 13:36, 2 March 2011 (EST)

Yeah, just run down the Optimus Prime (G1)/toys page and look at all the 30 million bodies he went through. Prime (Prime) just has two. --ItsWalky 13:53, 2 March 2011 (EST)

No no no no no no no no no no nononono fucking NO. --M Sipher 15:20, 2 March 2011 (EST)

If Hasbro hadn't specifically said that WFC and Prime go together, you might have had a point. --Khajidha 15:27, 2 March 2011 (EST)

I agree with Sipher.

Page is staying at (Prime) for now, as with all WFC characters who are in Prime, per an agreement at the Community Portal to keep those characters at (Prime) to not confuse the normal readers. Alientraveller 14:07, 5 March 2011 (EST)

Animated?

"The instructions show the rifle being plugged in by its shorter peg, which causes it to resemble the Transformers Animated Voyager-class Optimus Prime...", how does it resemble him at all?--TOM 16:18, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

It's referring to the shape of the guns being similar. 98.209.73.178 19:39, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

And yet they aren't, at all. The note is removed. --ItsWalky 20:21, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

Generations Prime stress marks

Should it be mentioned in the article that the panel his back wheels are attached to causes stress marks to the surrounding plastic around the hinges on the sides of his legs when the panel is flipped? I have the United and Darkside versions, and they both feature plastic hinge parts that are quite thick, meaning that the panel is tense, is difficult to flip over, and that the plastic tends to press hard onto his legs when flipped, resulting in some nasty stress marks. I'm just wondering whether anybody else has this problem. 58.69.199.160 22:32, 10 November 2011 (EST) Inkblot 21:45, 7 December 2011 (EST)

Quick Question

Now that Optimus is a Decepticon, can anyone add a Decepticon insignia on the page?--69.19.14.39 17:01, 15 November 2011 (EST) P.S. I wonder if Optimus eventually will say "Tyranny is the right of all sentient beings.". The World will NEVER KNOW!

No. That violates "Spoiler Rules." --Primo 23:25, 20 December 2011 (EST)

It has nothing to do with spoiler rules. We do not withhold information based on "spoilers". —Interrobang 23:28, 20 December 2011 (EST)

We certainly do in some cases, and in those rare cases when we do, it's at the very top of articles. --ItsWalky 23:33, 20 December 2011 (EST)

HOF?

Is this optimus a hall of famer?

-Yep Laserbeak's Drunk Uncle 15:43, 11 November 2012 (EST)Laserbeak's Drunk Uncle

Transformation Instructions

"Push down on his hood?" He doesn't have a hood. JW 15:53, 28 November 2011 (EST)

Aligned?

What evidence is there that Optimus Prime is the same guy as WFC/Prime Optimus, other than the off-the-cuff comment that Cybertron is uninhabitable? It's not like a deserted Cybertron is exclusive to the Aligned continuity family, after all. Tom Servo the Great 18:04, 18 December 2011 (EST)

The cartoon goes to great lengths to suggest there's a larger Transformers universe that Rescue Bots is not allowed to interact with. If this cartoon were truly its own thing, with no connections to any concurrently-running television show, they wouldn't be going out of their way to bring up the war and then make up excuses for why these dudes don't get to be a part of it. That this is Optimus Prime (Prime)'s "secret second family" is the simplest answer to the question of why all this complexity for no reason.

Plus, frankly, I bet anything Hasbro produces these days is from that Aligned bible. The only reason these guys have separate pages to begin with is that representatives at Toy Fair said these guys were from a universe with no Decepticons. Clearly, that's not the case. And if we were never told that, I would have bunched up these characters with the Prime universe.

Remember, the Prime continuity family also includes War for Cybertron. Two out of three of Hasbro's new outlets for Transformers content (WFC, Prime cartoon) are in the Aligned continuity family. To think that the third, Rescue Bots, is not included in this group, even though the RB cartoon spends considerable time to make it possible for the three to coexist... is illogical. --ItsWalky 18:17, 18 December 2011 (EST)

Fair enough, but I think we should at least wait for some kind of official confirmation before doing anything too drastic. Tom Servo the Great 18:21, 18 December 2011 (EST)

That might be a long wait. I mean, even if they stick a bit in Prime where someone walks in on Optimus having a secret phone call with Heatwave, a bunch of stuff needs to happen in Prime before they can get to that point. :) --abates 18:32, 18 December 2011 (EST)

Yeah, given how Prime is currently going, I am pretty damn sure that Rescue Bots takes place either before or during the first season. I don't think it could happen during at least the beginning of the second, or possibly beyond. --ItsWalky 18:37, 18 December 2011 (EST)

Wild mass guessing time! I'd probably say it would take place during the three-year lull in Decepticon activity before Darkness Rising. This would also probably explain away the minor but equally niggling aspect of Prime's different truck mode. Tom Servo the Great 18:50, 18 December 2011 (EST)

I don't think the visuals matter at all. Comparing WFC with Prime, for example, Hasbro feels that the visual style of any particular area within their Aligned universe can look however it wants, so long as it works for the story. --ItsWalky 18:58, 18 December 2011 (EST)

I know, I know, I just like to fanwank over minor details. :p Tom Servo the Great 19:00, 18 December 2011 (EST)

Also, where in Aligned would RB take place? I mean, Prime seems to take place in contemporary times, whereas RB seems to be set at some time in the future... Tom Servo the Great 18:23, 18 December 2011 (EST)

RB takes place on an island which is specifically indicated as being a special place for experimental technology. That's another piece of evidence for RB sharing a universe with the Prime cartoon. If it didn't need to share a universe, they wouldn't have had to spend time talking about how this is a place different from everywhere else. They could have just set it in the future. --ItsWalky 18:26, 18 December 2011 (EST)

I think if it was in the TFP universe, Prime's priority would proooobably have any newcomer Autobots help with the war effort.--Primo 19:01, 18 December 2011 (EST)

Although, at the same time, it's made clear that the Rescue Bots are not designed for fighting, and it's not like Prime to force people into the war effort. Plus, there's the fact that this may or may not take place during a time when there was no Decepticon activity anyways. Tom Servo the Great 19:18, 18 December 2011 (EST)

As Tom says. The war is brought up, but Optimus won't let them join. Why? Because they're the last known survivors of a rescue class of Transformer. Again, the show itself attempts frequently to explain why this RB show exists concurrently with the Prime cartoon while still making sense. It brings up all of the questions we would ask and answers them. --ItsWalky 20:13, 18 December 2011 (EST)

But it said the only human that knew their secret was charlie burns it the first episode. what about Fowler? (184.56.19.73 19:43, 18 December 2011 (EST))

If Optimus didn't tell Fowler about the Rescue Bots, he's gonna be really annoyed. --abates 19:56, 18 December 2011 (EST)

In the second episode, Optimus says, "I have found that the young of the species have been our most valuable allies." Clearly Charlie Burns was the only human to know about the Transformers... on that island. --ItsWalky 20:10, 18 December 2011 (EST)

I was going to say that this cartoon could also fit into the Movieverse.... except by the time Prime first starts his recorded broadcasts welcoming other Autobots to Earth, it's the end of Movie 1 and all of humankind already knows about TFs, meaning there's no need for secrecy for the Rescue guys. It would be very fun to merge Prime and RB, though I'm a bit concerned that that judgment might be being nudged forwards more by how much fun it is rather than how ironclad solid the evidence is. I don't think we are at our usual standard of evidence yet, but I also don't think we will ever get any more than what we've got now. The Galvatron II page includes the bio writeup for Universe Galvatron because he's potentially a toy of that character, with a disclaimer stating that he might not be as well. If these two Optimi are merged, I recommend taking the same tack: put in an intro note and/or italicize all the actions described from this medium. --Thylacine 2000 23:32, 18 December 2011 (EST)

I say that let's all wait for a few more episodes to air. For example, if Bumblebee appears on the show and he justs happens to be able to talk, then it's confirmed to be an alternate universe or continuity from Transformers Prime. -- ACIDSTORM92 15:06, 19 December 2011 (EST)

His character model doesn't give him a mouth. Also, he has no voice actor. --ItsWalky 16:27, 19 December 2011 (EST)

But he still hasn't appeared yet so we can't know for sure. And his character model was concept art not final. Plus, what happens to all the human companions discarded in favor of the Burns?- ACIDSTORM92 18:26, 19 December 2011 (EST)

It's already likely an alternate universe from Prime. The question is whether it fits into the Aligned continuity family, not the Prime continuity. I think it at least does the former. --abates 18:55, 19 December 2011 (EST)

I think the cartoon is pretty clearly intended to be in the same universe, with perhaps a few minor continuity hiccups. It is the toyline that appears to be in a slightly different universe from the cartoon so far. Cody is older, Charlie is younger, not a policeman, and not partnered with Chase, and the other characters have different partners. - Starfield 19:16, 19 December 2011 (EST)

Would it be too early to make a note of it on the Aligned timeline page? Tom Servo the Great 19:18, 19 December 2011 (EST)

We only have some toys and 2 episodes For now. There are not enough proof to say that RB is part of Aligned Continuity or not. So can't we wait for further information? - Thunderweb 06:49, 20 December 2011 (EST) (edited by Thunderweb 07:08, 20 December 2011 (EST))

As I stated on the other talk page discussion, the burden of proof is on those who say it doesn't fit. Hasbro's said that all of their new properties going forward are working from the Aligned bible. Until something comes up that tells us this cartoon is strangely exempt from that edict, RB is by default in Aligned. --ItsWalky 09:28, 20 December 2011 (EST)

I just realized one thing that doesn't add up with this show and Prime. In Prime, the Earth's core is filled with Dark Energon/Unicron. In Rescue Bots, it's filled with lava/magma. Though, at the end of "One Shall Rise, Part 3" the Dark Energon in that volcano looked like turned (back?) into lava, so... what's the connection between Dark Energon and lava? --Sabrblade 11:51, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Volcanic lava does not come from the Earth's core. --ItsWalky 11:57, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Okay. Though, there's still the matter of one volcano spewing lava and another spewing Dark Energon if they're both linked to the same planetary core. --Sabrblade 12:16, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Volcanoes do not work that way. Good night. :p Tom Servo the Great 12:18, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Lava obviously does exist in the Aligned universe. Prime even mentions other normal volcanic eruptions, like the one at the Kamchatka Peninsula. It's not a problem. - Chris McFeely 12:20, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Thanks, Chris. I'm all for Rescue Bots being in Aligned. Just pointing out any things that need clearing up. --Sabrblade 12:27, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Something that makes me lean more towards it taking place before Prime season 1 would be Optimus Prime's altmode. In Prime, he is certainly a long-nosed truck. The Rescue Bots Optimus toy has him turn into a flat-nosed truck. If he ever eventually transforms in the Rescue Bots cartoon, here's hoping his altmode is one that doesn't interfere with the overall shape of his Prime altmode. Cuz, unless he's doing some spontaneous altmode switching, him turning into a flat-nosed truck would lean more towards Rescue Bots taking place before Prime, allowing Optimus to be two different kinds of trucks in both shows. But, if the show has him turn into a long-nosed truck, in spite of what toy turns into, then there's more leeway for the Rescue Bots cartoon to occur at either time (before or during Prime season 1). --Sabrblade 01:56, 31 December 2011 (EST)

See the edit I bolded above. --ItsWalky 17:00, 31 December 2011 (EST)

Robot Heroes and Prime Together?

Has hasbro ever said that Robot heroes and and Prime are in the same continuity and if so does that mean that the Prime cartoon and the Robot Heroes cartoon are in the same time line? Doesn't that kinda contradict each other? --Mojotron

It's "Rescue Bots." --ItsWalky 11:15, 31 December 2011 (EST)

1)Same "continuity family" not necissarily same timeline (look up the difference if you don't know) and 2) No, not at all.

Crap. Don't know why I said why I said Robot Heroes. Has Hasbro ever said said they share the same continuity?

See above. --ItsWalky 16:53, 31 December 2011 (EST)

Sure it could be in another timeline but what evidence do we have that they are in the SAME CONTINUITY? just 'cuz they both show on the Hub doesn't mean that they are the same continuity User:Jazzerprime 2:47, February 3 2011

See above "Aligned" conversation. --Sabrblade 02:44, 3 February 2012 (EST)

Kline said in a web-interview-thing that yes, they're in the same continuity, just to clear up who said it. ~User:Oberoniss

Orion Pax, Part 1

You forgot to update the article. Even though by the time you read this it might already be done. You forgot to add info on Orion Pax, Part 1 and on Rescue Bots. They both aired today. I know because I watched both of them.71.162.103.239 23:08, 18 February 2012 (EST)

People will edit articles when they feel like it. We do not need your reminders. —Interrobang 23:12, 18 February 2012 (EST)

Rescue Bots is already covered too. Eesh. --abates 23:13, 18 February 2012 (EST)

Should we put a Decepticon insignia in the top right corner, seeing as "Orion" bore their insignia in "Orion Pax, Part 1"? What do you think?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.147.45.66 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Seems logical. Silverbolt gets one because he was a member for like a half-hour in one episode. -Derik 23:24, 18 February 2012 (EST)

I was going to ask the same thing? But never mind. I just have to say that things can change fast sometimes. This is one of those times. 71.162.103.239 23:27, 18 February 2012 (EST)

Mergining the Rescue bots and Prime cartoonssection

Since Exiles and Exodus sections were merged to a single section named Alinged Novels, then i had an idea why not we merge the Prime and RB Cartoons section aswell?. just an idea Eagc7 23:21, 22 April 2012 (EDT) Eagc7

No. We don't know in which order events happen between the two series, even if we wanted to merge those sections. There's a huge difference between putting two consecutive novels from the same series in a section and two completely different cartoon shows in the same section. --ItsWalky 23:46, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

BS Optimus w/ Trailer/Launcher

Its been out for about 3 months. --Kohu Maximus 16:20, 6 May 2012 (EDT)

And you've had the ability to update such information yourself for 5 years. --ItsWalky 16:24, 6 May 2012 (EDT)

Latest Edits

I updated this page for Optimus Prime with what may appear to be an essay, but is a lowdown of his personality - because it's HIS PAGE. Additionally, some of the information was getting a little out of date. Please, Its Walky, don't go about reverting it just because you think it should be short. Harley Quinn hyenaholic 10:31, 21 September 2012 (EDT)

Rename

Since he started out as Orion Pax, shouldn't the page be called that? That's usually the case.Transfan 1992 18:28, 21 December 2012 (EST)

What? No, it isn't. Optimus Prime (G1) is not at Orion Pax (G1). --abates 18:44, 21 December 2012 (EST)

Well the difference is, the G1 Optimus has several origins. In some stories, he is Orion Pax, in others he's Optronix, and in some, he's just Optimus at the beginning. With this incarnation, he's always Orion Pax. And with this whole Aligned continuity and there having to be one universe, it's unlikely this Optimus will get a contridicting backstory. I mean Smokescreen (Armada) isn't named "Hoist (Armada)".Transfan 1992 15:35, 25 December 2012 (EST)

He already has a contradictory backstory: His pre-Prime name is "Orion Pax" in Exodus and "Optimus" in War for Cybertron. --abates 19:21, 27 December 2012 (EST)

Moving?

ArceeFanGirl 17:42, 27 December 2012 (EST)I think you should make seperate character pages for WFC characters and leave the Prime characters where they are.

It should be like this.

Optimus Prime (WFC) Optimus Prime (Prime)

Wait, split? Why? They're the same character. That's like saying we should split consider Sunbow cartoon Optimus Prime a separate character from Marvel comics Optimus Prime. --Detour 19:10, 27 December 2012 (EST)

That would present false information, so no. --ItsWalky 19:27, 27 December 2012 (EST)

Optimus Prime profile photo

Hi I'm curious to know if your planning to upgrade Optimus profile pic from his season 1-3 look to his 2.0 look that he got in Transformers: Prime season 3 Beast Hunters "Rebellion"?--Optimal OptimusPrime 14:31, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

Our policy seems to be "first body or most well-known body" with the mainpics, which is his season 1-2 body. --Sabrblade 14:36, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

To quote the relevant help page, "Characters often have multiple bodies, so the main image should be their original "real world" form, and as full-body as possible." Jalaguy 14:40, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

Toy Page?

Should we move the toys/merchandise to a toys category? - Kuptrion 20:02, 20 October 2013 (EDT)

Interesting Concept Art for TFP!Orion Pax

I found this in a link while scrolling tumblr, it was done by an artist who was interning at Hasbro in 2010. He said it was an assignment given too him while he was there. I know the design concepts are unofficial, so I figured they shouldn't be posted or uploaded too the wiki. But I figure since this guy worked so hard on it, it deserved to be shared with the fans. I also thought you guys might wanna see it.
Ixbran (talk) 21:30, 18 November 2013 (EST)

Tiny Titans caption?

Guest starring in an all new Tiny Titans comic book.

Since i imagine Transformers Tiny Titans have little or nothing to do with the Tiny Titans referenced in the Optimus_Prime_(WFC)#Rescue_Bots_cartoon caption transcribed here, should we maybe change or remove that caption? ...Then again, who knows if somewhere in the near future there might not be a Tiny TF Titans comic book with an Optimus looking like this.

--Rhymus (talk) 00:54, 8 March 2015 (EST)

--Question-- Optimus Prime did not appear in The Reign of Morroco but was away from his base but yet it is mentioned but he did nothing but concept art for him was shown in Double Villainy-SeanTF1967

Is it too early...

...to divide the main page into subsection pages like we do with various characters from G1/Beast Wars/the live-action films, etc.? I'm talking about the potential of a page like "Optimus Prime (WFC)/Cartoon continuity."

Or would it not work since the works of the Aligned continuity are much closer related than all of the G1 sub-stories? John3637881 (talk) 14:42, 2 June 2016 (EDT)

It's certainly a candidate, being the 17th largest page on the wiki right now. I think in this case the wisest option would be to simply split off just the Prime cartoon and maybe explicity Prime-branded tie-in fiction, since as you say, it would be very hard to define a specific "cartoon continuity" with Aligned where everything is kind of in continuity but also kind of not at the same time. Jalaguy (talk) 15:06, 2 June 2016 (EDT)

First reveal of this Optimus being in the Thirteen

What media first officially revealed that this Optimus was a member of the Thirteen? I was surprised, considering how prominent the information is on this page, that the whole of Transformers: Prime doesn't reference this fact - I watched the whole show waiting for a plot twist that never occurred... I gather from the information on this page that Robots in Disguise goes on to address it, but had it already been revealed anywhere else? --flicky1991 14:46, 27 November 2017 (EST)

It came from the Transformers: The Covenant of Primus, December 2013, roughly six months after Deadlock. The Covenant was the first time the full roster of the Thirteen was revealed by any media. See their page (and talk page) for the conflicts this caused. --Xaaron (talk) 15:09, 27 November 2017 (EST)

Optimus Prime's Pre-Prime name

In WFC game, Optimus' name was Optimus before he became a Prime. But according to FoC, his name was Orion Pax. So, this means: Orion Pax> Optimus> Optimus Prime. But, in WFC comic, Halogen made Orion Pax Optimus Prime. My theory: After the war started, Optimus Prime has dropped “Prime” from his name, so he became “Optimus”. Somehow, Sentinel Zeta Prime escaped from the Decepticons and became leader of the Autobots. HispasatBot 18 February 2020