Talk:Triple Combination: Transformers Go! (franchise)
"Combination Cubed"? Is this really the best translation? --Sabrblade 00:49, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
- Talk:Combination Cubed: Transformers Go! (toyline). The title is literally "Third Power Combination". And the gimmick of the exclusive toys is that they can form any one of three parts in a larger robot (so 3³ different combinations in a team, including repeat characters). Mimi 01:10, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
- I only made the suggestion! *runs away* --Lonegamer78 01:15, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
- It's just, the "Combination" part coming first makes it sounds like "Gattai" is the first word instead of the second. And "cubed" has connotations of the squarish variety that may confuse folks at first glance. Granted, "Third Power Combination" isn't much better either, but I think it might be the safer one. --Sabrblade 01:33, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
- Personally, I think it should be rendered "Combination³ Transformers Go!", since that's evidently what they mean by "Third Power Combination". "³ Combination" is also a possibility if we want it to look completely terrible. -LV 01:41, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
- English and Japanese sometimes just aren't going to have the same word order or logic. But I'm okay with whatever consensus decides (I ain't going back to change all the links again, though). Mimi 02:01, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
- For what it's worth, I comprehended the meaning of the title as soon as I saw it on the recent changes page and think it's the punchiest, mostly "title-y" option, but if we're contemplating alternatives, I'd certainly suggest "Combination to the Third Power" would be better than "Third Power Combination". - Chris McFeely 04:52, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
- "Combination to the Third Power" feels a bit long, on the flipside. --Lonegamer78 06:15, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
- For what it's worth, I comprehended the meaning of the title as soon as I saw it on the recent changes page and think it's the punchiest, mostly "title-y" option, but if we're contemplating alternatives, I'd certainly suggest "Combination to the Third Power" would be better than "Third Power Combination". - Chris McFeely 04:52, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
- English and Japanese sometimes just aren't going to have the same word order or logic. But I'm okay with whatever consensus decides (I ain't going back to change all the links again, though). Mimi 02:01, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
- Personally, I think it should be rendered "Combination³ Transformers Go!", since that's evidently what they mean by "Third Power Combination". "³ Combination" is also a possibility if we want it to look completely terrible. -LV 01:41, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
- It's just, the "Combination" part coming first makes it sounds like "Gattai" is the first word instead of the second. And "cubed" has connotations of the squarish variety that may confuse folks at first glance. Granted, "Third Power Combination" isn't much better either, but I think it might be the safer one. --Sabrblade 01:33, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
Another inquiry. When it comes to the word "Gattai", why do we tend to default to "Combination"? Not that I object to it, but what about other suggestions like "Fusion" or "Union"? (the former of which has been used on Transformers before, like in RiD with Rail Racer's "Bullet Fusion!" phrase) If "Third Power Combination" might feel like a mouthful, why not opt for a simpler term than "Combination"? "Third Power Fusion", maybe? --Sabrblade 09:24, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
- Probably because of Operation Combination.--RosicrucianTalk 09:41, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
- You were talking about word order above, but "Third Power X" doesn't make sense in English - as McFeely intimated, it's always "X to the Third Power". In translation, some things just have to give.
- [I've got sympathy for LV's position though - "X³" is a more natural way of writing it than "X Cubed", and the whole diacritic thing shows that Wiki policy isn't to make things easy to type! Even if the alliteration is tempting.] - SanityOrMadness 09:54, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
And another thing. Why is the colon placed before the "Transformers" part instead of after? I mean, we don't write FSRLTF as "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform: Transformers" or Beast Wars Neo/Metals/Returns as "Super Lifeform: Transformers Beast Wars Neo/Metals/Returns". The "Sanjou Gattai" part doesn't look formatted any differently from how the "(Tatakae!) Chou (Robot) Seimeitai" in other series titles are. Why not have it as "(English translation of Sanjou Gattai) Transformers: Go!" with the colon after the "Transformers" like we normally (not "always" but "usually") do?
Also, that leads me to another question (yes, I have an inquisitive mind, sue me). With all the talk of how "Sanjou Gattai" can be translated properly into English, how different would "Sanjou Gattai Toransufōmā" be translated when the third word is factored in to make all three into one entity? Meaning, would the inclusion of the "Transformers" part into the preceding phrase affect its overall translation in any manner? --Sabrblade 21:49, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
- In other words, can we have the title rendered with the colon between the "Transformers" and the "Go!" to better match up with how this Wiki handles its use of colons in the series titles?
- And, are we going to stick with "Combination Cubed" or go with "Combination³"? --Sabrblade 01:24, 1 May 2013 (EDT)
- I think you're making this out to be a bigger deal than it actually is. The title is fine and set up according to how the logo separates the two parts. Mimi 04:11, 1 May 2013 (EDT)
