Talk:Rainmaker

I didn't see any discussion on any of the talk pages about this, so I'll bring it up here even though I'm sure there will be some gnashing of teeth.

But here's my argument. The Seekers from MTMTE 1 are now in toy form dubbed Rainmakers. Is there any reason we can't slot them in here somewhere?

I know, color schemes aren't consistent, but that's not really a big deal, especially where the G1 cartoon is concerned and Acid Storm has a different color layout every time anyway.

I also know it's been stated before that Sunstorm wasn't the yellow guy, but could we argue this is a case of Authorial Intent and New Fiction Trumps Old Fiction?

The thing is, these guys are Rainmakers according to the new toys, so we either say there's two different squads running around G1 with the name name or that these are the same guys (save for Hot Link who was apparently out that day.)

It could also be argued that they aren't the guys from Divide and Conquer, but The Rainmakers are simply a larger squad with six members. What does anyone think?Riddlerj 10:46, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

I also know it's been stated before that Sunstorm wasn't the yellow guy, but could we argue this is a case of Authorial Intent and New Fiction Trumps Old Fiction?

But there hasn't been any new fiction that depicts Sunstorm as the same guy as the yellow "Divide and Conquer" Rainmaker. It's not too difficult to believe that the Rainmakers have both a yellow guy and a gold guy among their ranks. --Sabrblade 11:23, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

We've had, IIRC, comment from Fun Pub people that the pack being named 'Rainmakers' wasn't ever the intent and it wound up inadvertently happening somehow. So the people who made the set never intended to make them part of this existing team, for what it's worth... Jalaguy 11:25, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

The "Rainmakers" description on the toy bag and in the program was an error. They are not Rainmakers. --ItsWalky 11:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

The package says what it says. The BotCon guys aren't the D&C guys, but they are now Rainmakers. You could even argue that this makes Rainmaker the term for non-Conehead Seekers, but I wouldn't take it that far. --Khajidha 11:36, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

There's no reason for us to take what has been explicitly stated as an error by the people who made it as a fact. I mean, Minerva's packaging says Minelba on it, but we don't blindly say "oh yes, that must be her proper name". Jalaguy 13:46, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

Well then, did either the comic or a Funpub statement say what the team should be called? (IDK, haven't read it yet) All 3 of their pages still call their toys the "Rainmaker Set", so even adding the note "They're only called Rainmakers by mistake" won't dislodge that from people's minds. If Minerva hadn't been named anywhere other than here packaging, her name would effectively be Minelba, right? And even if authorial intent does give us a name, would it be official enough to trump "Rainmakers" by this wiki's standards? Bumblevivisector 14:09, 5 September 2013 (EDT)