MediaWiki talk:Community Portal/People who will never contribute here but nevertheless want us to change everything

Implying...

...any of the captions are actually funny. --24.69.64.254 20:16, 16 July 2012 (EDT)

Well certainly they've got nothing on you, Sir Anon.--Rosicrucian^Talk 20:38, 16 July 2012 (EDT)

Taking the wiki seriously

I have been looking at the pages on this wiki for a while now, and I find it ridiculous how unprofessional this wiki is, the jokes are irrelevant, the "trivia" section has little to no real information. (people adding random thing to it) --Ccga3359 04:17, 2 August 2012 (EDT)

I'm sure you'll have a very long and valuable run here. --M Sipher 05:12, 2 August 2012 (EDT)

Feel free to go and start a new, entirely seriously wiki. I'm sure you'll have content to rival ours in no time and will without a doubt soon become more popular. No foolin's. - Chris McFeely 05:19, 2 August 2012 (EDT)

I've only been here a few days and I think this wiki is freaking awesome. :D The comedy and insanely close attention to detail is what me likes. Nick 23:15, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

I agree with Ccga3359. If you want a funny site, mark it as "Tranformers Satire" so other don't mistakenly use as a refrence or some crap like that. It's only fair to ensure readers know you're full of shit.

sat·ire [sat-ahyuhr]. noun 1. the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc. I don't think we deride vice or folly much around here... Tom Servo the Great 19:38, 10 September 2012 (EDT)

And for that matter, we always make sure the humor doesn't get in the way of being informative. Nothing stops you from using this wiki as reference material, and we'll never take a joke so far as to make an article inaccurate or a parody. Given the evidence that a number of Transformers writers themselves use this site for quick reference, I'm not too worried about our signal to noise ratio.--Rosicrucian^Talk 19:43, 10 September 2012 (EDT)

This is the part where we invite the claimant to point out just exactly how this wiki is, to use their vernacular, "full of shit". And just like every other instance where the claim was made, this is also the point where the claimant fails to back up this assertion in any capacity... thus putting the "full of shit" label directly back on the claimant. --M Sipher 00:40, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

Image Captions

Hey, this wiki is a great source of information and has helped me re-live my youth, so to speak, with Transformers now showing on Netflik. BUT - for some reason, nearly every image caption on every page has been vandalized with nonsensical information. Was this on the purpose? I think the site should be corrected of this problem and, yes, be run a bit more seriously. -207.245.177.3 17:22, 10 September 2012 (EDT)

It's not vandalism - see Transformers Wiki:Caption. To quote: "Unlike most Wikis, Transformers Wiki does not have a complete ban on humor, particularly in image captions where a description saying "a picture of Generation 1 Megatron" on a page about Generation 1 Megatron with "Megatron (G1)" in big bold letters at the top with "Megatron" bolded in the opening paragraph would be just a wee bit redundant. Instead, we prefer to lighten things up with humorous image captions, because Transformers is inherently ridiculous, and denying this probably isn't healthy." Jalaguy 18:47, 10 September 2012 (EDT)

The part that amuses me is whenever a new Transformers-orientated wiki starts up on wikia, the first thing anyone does is add a picture with a joke caption. We are the standard by which all Transformers wikis are measured. --abates 19:59, 10 September 2012 (EDT)

Couldn't agree more. -- spyder

Transformers History

Not sure where this would go or what weight to give it but…

The Classic Show You Loved; #6. Transformers Was a Bunch of Toys From Different Toy Lines

What makes Transformers so well-loved and iconic is that, even though they're robots, you can immediately tell who's good and who's bad just by looking at them: Megatron looks like the soul of a rapist possessed by a tank, whereas Optimus has an aura of righteousness. If America were a truck, it's name would be Optimus Prime.

But Actually…

Optimus and Megatron were never supposed to be enemies -- in fact, they didn't even belong to the same toy line. Basically, Hasbro grabbed two different sets of toys from Japan and paid the Marvel Comics staff to come up with new names for all the robots. The result was Transformers. The same characters already had origins and personalities in Japan: For example, "Megatron" was meant to be a good guy. Because there's nothing more heroic than morphing into a Nazi handgun, apparently. Megatron, Soundwave and others came from a toy line called Microman, where the premise was that these little space robots came to Earth and disguised themselves as household items to protect kids. This explains why Megatron (a supposedly giant robot) turned into a regular-sized pistol, but it does not explain why they expected children to have said pistols lying around in their drawers.

Meanwhile, Optimus came from a different toy line called Diaclone, which was actually supposed to be battle mechas -- they even included a little metallic figure called "Inch-Man," which represented the pilot. Yes, the horrifying implication here is that Optimus (or "Battle Convoy," as he's still known in Japan) had as much of a personality as, well, a truck. In fact, if you look at him carefully, it's easy to tell that he was always meant to be just another mindless giant robot, like Voltron. If you're still not convinced, here's a commercial with "Optimus" combining with other robots, Japan style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B4frjPXJL0s

So the entire idea of the Transformers cartoon was to act as 30-minute commercials for the toys that Hasbro was importing from Japan (which on some level you surely already suspected). In fact, remember the original Transformers cartoon movie from the '80s? The main reason why they killed off so many characters there (including Optimus) was to make space for the new models. They even planned a scene where they "wiped out the entire '84 product line" in one brutal attack, and "whoever wasn't discontinued stumbled to the end." Because, you know, seeing Optimus die onscreen wasn't enough. In the alternate reality where this scene made it to the finished movie, mankind is on the verge of extinction due to the sudden suicide of all children in 1987.

From "6 Classic Kids Shows Slapped Together From Recycled Material" Cracked.com (http://www.cracked.com/article_19470_6-classic-kids-shows-slapped-together-from-recycled-material.html#ixzz266pRfEzB) AJ REDDSON —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.5.217.251 (talk • contribs) 18:56, 10 September 2012.

That's kinda all stuff that we already cover. --abates 19:02, 10 September 2012 (EDT)

Where? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.5.217.251 (talk • contribs) 11:19, 11 September 2012.

Most notably we cover both Diaclone and Micro Change in detail.--Rosicrucian^Talk 11:27, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

The original TF toyline article mentions this in its second sentence. The toy write ups for all of the 1984 releases include notes as to their sources in the preexisting Diaclone and Microman toylines. --Khajidha 12:30, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

Serioiusly

Ya, the captions are NOT funny (and I will expound on how "Not funny" I found them in a moment), are distracting, and in many cases the information presented are distorted by a lame joke inserted in the text. There were several articles where the actual text was pointedly dashed out and replaced with these lame jokes, which inevitably requires one or the other to be removed. As a rpg writer, I look for new materail, and this, doens't have it; I use it for pictures only. Further, it undermines the respectibility of the site when every oter line seems to be a joke; I can't take the article seriously, so I stop reading quickly. But what I really found offensive was the Prowl aricle. At one point the final image was captioned "dead pig." I was a Tranformer fan before SOME of you were born (I can barely remember the Carter Adminstration, yes, I am that old). Now it has at least 12 instances of the word "prick." I WAS that "prick" at one point, so no- It's NOT funny. It's not "cute" it's purely offensive. You say it's funny: There is NOTHING funny about any of it, and it's distracting.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.5.217.251 (talk • contribs) 11:55, 11 September 2012.

Do we really need three separate sections on this page with you complaining about the humor? If you seriously can't figure out where the frankly exhaustively researched information is on this site, I'm starting to wonder about your reading comprehension levels.--Rosicrucian^Talk 12:15, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

Spoiler alert: Prowl being labeled a prick has nothing to do with him being a police car and everything to do with him being characterized as, well, a prick. --Detour 12:19, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

For that matter, where do you get off telling us that the humor gets in the way of us being informative when your suggestion to us was that we look to a slipshod article from Cracked for information? I mean, we already have as much information about Diaclone and Micro Change as that article and then some, so there's literally no reason at all we would have to rely on a secondary source like Cracked. Beyond that, Cracked is a humor site.--Rosicrucian^Talk 12:23, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

Oooh, guy who can't spell "seriously" who only posts to tell us our site is dumb and we should do it his way and also offer information we already know. My new favorite poster. --ItsWalky 12:39, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

I checked all revisions of Prowl (G1) and as far as I can tell, that last image has always had the caption it has now. If anyone had changed it to "Dead pig", they woulda got reverted pretty quickly. --abates 17:20, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

Yes, Prowl's page has a history. Please find us this iteration of the caption, anonymous guy, or I'm gonna assume you either made up this story or you don't realize you're talking about the Other Site. (I was also born during the Carter administration, by the by.) --ItsWalky 17:56, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

There's a big header at the top and everything, and people still complain about something that most people don't want to change. Tom Servo the Great 19:22, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

It's especially irritating considering what the second line of text reads. --ItsWalky 21:21, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

Can I change all the captions to "I SMELL BACON" now? -hx 21:27, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

I suppose this would go here....

I am a new user. I think the jokes on this wiki are funny, but I was wondering if changing them was allowed. I was thinking about changing the 'poor purple guy' on Dion's page to a 'nobody salvage Waspinator/Dion' joke, but I wanted to make sure that was okay first. Avalanche (talk) 15:01, 18 March 2015 (EDT)

To quote the captions policy page: "If you're changing a joke, you're removing content created by a user who's contributed to this community, and replacing it with something from someone (yourself) who has not." Existing captions will only be changed if there's a consensus that it's rubbish or horribly offensive or something. Jalaguy (talk) 15:13, 18 March 2015 (EDT)

Thank you for your prompt and polite response. I will be sure to follow this rule in the future. Avalanche (talk) 15:25, 18 March 2015 (EDT)