Talk:Airazor (BW)

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Tigatron slept with Airazor in a Vok spaceship. They gave birth to a rapidly-maturing freak show named Tigarhawk ;) - Doogles 22:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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[1] Here's a good picture of Metals manga Airazor, but I feel bad just stealing it from DVD's site. Also, I've been told that there are some better pictures, though this one seems fine (with cropping). Anybody else have scans they can contribute? --ItsWalky 03:56, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Added one of my own, though that one might be better. I just didn't feel like photoshopping. Made a brief manga summary with a footnote about proper continuity. I really don't think the Metals manga is in-continuity with the TV series, juding by character redesigns, alternate tellings of storylines and overall wackyness.--DrSpengler 07:08, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Speng? You have the Metals Mangas? I've been lookign for scans for years. ^_^; -Derik 15:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

No, I'm afraid not. :( I've only *seen* random scans. I know mostly that the manga was a comedy-relief effort much like BWII (why the Japanese insisted on interjecting comedy into Beast Wars I haven't a fucking clue), filled with lots of bad and goofy character redesigns. Tigartron wore samurai garb, Rattrap was turned into Pikachu, Cheetor was...totally fucking wierd-looking, etc. This site is the best I can do for scans at the moment: http://www.dvandom.com/bb99.html I am forever monitoring eBay, waiting to pounce on the first Beast Wars manga that shows up (so far all I've ever seen are guide books). --DrSpengler 18:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I totally have to upload one of those Pikatrap images. Absolutely hilarious. And not in a good way. Singularity 20:52, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Transphobia

Can you remove the caption that reads "Tranny"? I thoroughly dislike transphobia as much as I dislike racism or homphobia. You wouldn't caption a picture of Tracks with the word "Queer", so no double standards.

I don't think the "Tranny" is a problem. Most of the captions on the site are smart-aliky (sp?) or sarcastic. The "Tranny" mearly pokes fun at the fact that Airazor was Female in all of Hasbro's BW material, but was male in the Japanese dub or BW, and female in Japan's Beast Wars Metals manga. That's one character being either male or female in Japan depending which of the offical media you looked at. Even when Hasbro changed the gender of a TF (C Override), the change was kept constant (no Hasbro material with Override as a male). --FortMax 19:17, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Haha. When I was reading the summary in recent changes, I thought it was referring to Transformers. Interesting to see that you proclaim "Double standards!" when you're obviously new here. You're also taking this too seriously. Singularity 21:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

However, feel free to change the caption on the basis that it's not at all funny, like most of the captions try to be. --Suki Brits 22:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

*blinks* I wrote the caption in question. It's not transphopic, it's merely based ont he fact that Airrazor is a gender-bender, as well as the fact the annual TF fan-awards are caleld the Trannies. If you want to change it, go ahwad-- but you have to find

somethign funnier to put in its place. -Derik 12:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Toy Name

Since the comic advertizing the Timelines toy says "Airazor", I'm going to get rid of the "Name may change" comment, if that's okay. --Pakiro 10:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

• To be fair, the BotCon 06 toys were advertised both as just their names and as their names with the Axalon or Darksyde prefix. Until we get a word on what she'll be called for sure, though, I think the entry can call her just plain Airazor. If we have to add a prefix later, t'ain't the end of the world. --ItsWalky 06:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Conflict in story?

BW never says the protoforms are -infant- transformers, they're the -crew- in protoform form. If they're the crew they can't be newborns.

Are you asking how Newborns could crew a ship? If so, the explanation comes from the preprogrammed life skills and common knowledge included in the Protoform's datatrax 85.195.119.14 05:22, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, there is one big conflict. In Airazor's introduction, it's very explictly stated that she's a NEW SPARK, without any history or past. Hence Rhinox's whole 'when a spark comes online...' poetry. It's fairly safe to assume that Airazor's basic skills, etc, were programmed along with the statis pod, as Tigatron's should have been, though he expounds on why it wasn't. Seriously, people, WATCH the show - I'm looking at YOU FP! - Vanguard

It's Rhinox who believes it's a new spark, and he wouldn't know one stasis pod from another. There's probably no way he'd know that this was previously a sparkless protoform with someone else's spark in it, versus a normal sparked protoform. It would, however, require that most of the crew be new sparks for him to make this assumption, which is something that HAS been fucked with terribly by both FP and IDW. --ItsWalky 00:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, it could be argued that we actually see the spark come online, though I don't think that's part of the episode that's supposed to be literal. I suppose we could, for continuity's sake with FP, say that Rhinox was in error - but I would rather say that Rhinox (who pulled some spark miracles out of his own arse more than once) was correct, and FP's interpretation is just one of those 'alternate universe' things. -- Vanguard

I like to view FP as an alternate universe just as much as anyone, so I'm not going to argue for the sake of that. But Rhinox never says that Airazor's spark recently came online. His "when a spark comes online" poetry was just exposition for the audience to know what a spark is. He also followed up with "when one is extinguished..." and shows the spark extinguishing. Are we to assume that this means Airazor died? Of course not. No specific mention of Airazor is even made in that scene. He was just explaining to Cheetor about sparks.

Which leads into my next point. Cheetor is clearly younger, less knowledgeable, and less experienced than Tigatron, Airazor, Silverbolt, and Blackarachnia. Clearly, this means: 1) experience is something that has to be acquired over time (or else they would have just downloaded it into Cheetor), and 2) the stasis pod crew have at least been active longer than Cheetor.

Also, the only protoform that wasn't damaged (thus causing memory loss) was Inferno's, and he was batshit insane (likely due to his shell program being swapped out mid-DNA scan). Buddy 04:06, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

First female toy?

What about Discharge?—TOM 16:58, 1 February 2011 (EST)

Discharge wasn't designed as female, and was retroactively made female years later. --abates 17:03, 1 February 2011 (EST)

Dinobot

This note seems like tvtropesing.KrytenKoro (talk) 16:53, 15 July 2014 (EDT)