Talk:All Hail Megatron issue 15

Story Redirects

Seeing as how "Lost & Found" redirects to "Lost and Found (episode)", and there's also a "Lost and Found (issue)", would this be "Lost & Found (story)"? --Jeysie 11:27, 19 September 2009 (EDT)

I'd say "Lost and Found (IDW)" --MistaTee 13:44, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

Actually, Interrobang already took care of it. --Jeysie 13:48, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

Lost & Found

Oh what a continuity conundrum this summary makes it out to be. ---Blackout- 15:18, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

I just couldn't grasp why they were playing an Earth game when none of the crew had ever been planetside.--Rosicrucian^Talk 15:19, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

By the way, did Shane McCarthy write that? ---Blackout- 15:26, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

No, this was Denton's work.--Rosicrucian^Talk 15:26, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

How did he manage to create so many conundrums in 11 pages? ---Blackout- 15:30, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

Same way his talents as an editor led to the gigantic amounts of plot holes and continuity errors in All Hail Megatron, I'd wager. --Detour 15:34, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

Based on his behavior on the IDW forums, the guy's a clueless idiot, plain and simple. --Jeysie 15:35, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

Come on, guys. Are we really so desensitized to abrupt continuity changes that we go into a fuss every single time that something even remotely off from what has come before happens, even when it can be (and will be) explained? Here's my rundown of the errors section based on what I know about the comics:

-Re: Go being played. This probably wasn't intended as a continuity gaffe, just a harmless in-joke. Besides, is it really so out-of-the ordinary to assume that, if the Transformers have spoken English for millions of years (they've never stated that their conversations were being translated, even if they were) that they might also have a game called "Go"?

-Re: Bludgeon's appearance. Admittedly, I was confused as well, but THIS WILL BE EXPLAINED! Just because something hasn't been explained yet doesn't mean that it won't be. Besides, there are an abundance of ways that it can be explained. For example, wasn't Sixshot, who had performed a bit of a heel-face-turn prior to being deactivated and abducted, let back into the Decepticons in exchange for valuable information? The same could, to an extent, be true here.

-Re: the Decepticon retreat. This is just pure speculation on the part of whoever added it. The only Decepticon Pretenders so far have been Thunderwing and Bludgeon, and only the former has been anything near all-powerful. All Bludgeon has done since becoming a Pretender is kill Iguanus (whom he caught by surprise), lose his mind, and slash through a wall with his big-ass sword. We have received no confirmation that Bludgeon is capable of what Thunderwing did. Also, isn't Kup also a Pretender? He's far from being nigh-unstoppable. Also, has anyone considered that he may have retreated in order to lure the Trion's crew into an ambush above Cybertron? Or because he had wounded troops and actually saw that it wouldn't be a smart move to even risk defeat, possibly allowing the combiner tech to fall into Autobot hands? --199.94.74.239 18:57, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Re, Go being played: Because it's an in-joke that plays into Drift's ridiculous Japanophile personality.

Re, Bludgeon's appearance: Until it does get explained, it's a continuity error based on what we already know. Especially since once again IDW does something that makes no sense in continuity when they could have very easily done something that would--in this case, just using Banzai-tron instead. (I really don't envy Roche having to explain all these continuity gaffes that could have easily been avoided with an editor who actually knew what he was doing...)

Re: the Decepticon retreat: As was already said, the entire point of the Pretenders is that they're supposed to be extremely powerful, especially since Bludgeon duplicated Thunderwing's work. As for why Kup isn't super-powerful, it's because the process he went through is a modification on the underlying concept (specifically the "cerebral interface") rather than duplicating the full physical effect. --Jeysie 20:36, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Pretty much agree. Having the second story of the issue introduce new continuity gaffes, when the whole issue's purpose is to answer questions and close gaps, was just bad form.--Rosicrucian^Talk 20:40, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Heh. At this point, I'm not even sure what the point of Coda was really supposed to be, as Roche is the only writer so far to actually bother trying to bridge the discrepancies between -ations and AHM (and god, what a glorious job he does of it). --Jeysie 20:47, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Oh come on! There's one good thing about Denton right now: he's giving me another reason to pay attention to the Last Stand of the Wreckers. Not only are Overlord and Skyquake going to be in it, we also get to find out the reasons for a huge plothole in this issue! ---Blackout- 14:59, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

The only explanation that I can think of is that when Shockwave is released from Garrus-9 by Overlord, he takes Bludgeon, rather offscreen, with him. With that in mind, it seems as little to no coincidence at all that Bludgeon ends up on the same team as the Monstructor-six, given how they all end up working for Shockwave in the Dark Cybertron series. --Valgatron 01:55, 18.04.2014

Doesn't work. Shockwave was released from G-9 a year after the Surge, whereas this story takes place very shortly before the Surge. Jalaguy (talk) 19:47, 17 April 2014 (EDT)