Talk:Crab spy

The novel mentions that in robot form, the crab spy has a strong resemblance to Frenzy, but it's red. Can we mention somewhere that it's probably the movie equivalent of Rumble?KrytenKoro 05:13, 23 June 2009 (EDT)

Well, let's not forget that Movie Frenzy has had both a blue figure and a red figure. --Sabrblade 17:33, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Scalpel

I think the "crab spy" is supposed to be Scalpel. He's described as "crab-like" in the novelization, and if it is Ravage that picks him up (as indicated on his page, despite being a continuity error), that'd match up with their symbiotic relationship. His red color can be explained as a side effect of his alt-mode at the time; once he became a microscope, he lost it. --Martonimos 19:51, 5 July 2009 (EDT)

No. The novel says he looks just like a crab. A NEST guy picks him up and tosses him out, thinking he's a real crab. Furthermore, Ravage also coughs up Reedman, who also isn't Scalpel. Ravage can carry around more than two guys. --ItsWalky 20:29, 5 July 2009 (EDT)

All right, makes sense to me. --Martonimos 21:03, 5 July 2009 (EDT)

Scalpel isn't a spy. I would say he is more likely to be Wheelie who took a different altmode except the crab spy is a highly effective spy. Wheelie, on the other hand... Also, I'm not entirely convinced the "a dark shape" that picked up the crab spy is Ravage, because it is a continuity error. - Starfield 21:05, 5 July 2009 (EDT)

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Regardless of Starfield's reservations, Foster clearly intended the Crab Spy to be The Doctor, and mirrored the language when referring to the doctor later. TFT was crawling with original characters, but only these two went unnamed. If they were meant to be original characters, he'd have named them.

I'm calling bullshit on that. The novelization calls Scalpel "spider-like" and "arachnoid." He is not crablike, nor is there any mirrored language. And furthermore, he is "THE DOCTOR," not "THE SPY." Completely different functions and personalities. --ItsWalky 12:26, 6 July 2009 (EDT)

He didn't. They're Ravage and Scalpel. They went unnamed to preserve the surprise and create a sense of anticipation for the movie. -Derik 11:50, 6 July 2009 (EDT)

Even in the novel—apparently working from an earlier draft of the script—Soundwave launched Ravage to Earth after the Shanghai incident. Maybe it was Howlback? - Starfield 12:17, 6 July 2009 (EDT)