Talk:Demolishor (WFC)

Parenthetical

Since we're being anal about where characters originate, wouldn't this more rightly be "Demolishor (WFC)"?--Rosicrucian^Talk 01:42, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

I've been thinking about pointing this out myself, but I'm just so unsure just what the rule actually is for this stuff... --Detour 02:23, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

Depends on what WFC turns out to be, I'd say. We use (G1) to disamb guys who appeared in later G1 comics rather than (Dreamwve), (War Within) etc.. Right now, I don't see how a different medium would mean another identifier. Geewunling 02:27, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

That's because "Dreamwave" isn't a franchise, it's a publisher. No one's asking to move this to (Activision). As of now, we don't know for absolute sure Demolishor's franchise-of-origin. It might end up being G1 and it might end up being Prime, which could still BE G1, but a franchise within G1, like Beast Wars or Generation 2. --ItsWalky 08:59, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

Except there's the distinct possibility that WFC is considered the backstory to Prime (which has been danced around a few times by Hasbro). I'd say err on the side of caution here. We don't know that this Demolishor is being retroactively inserted into G1. We know that WFC is G1-esque, but we do not know that it's considered G1.--Rosicrucian^Talk 02:31, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

I'd appreciate it not to be reminded of that horrendous new franchise name. For gods, it's even worse than "Animated". Anyway, point. For the sake of clarity until further notice, I agree this one should be moved to WFC, with the notion it ought to be changed back if it turns out anyway that WFC is part of G1. Geewunling 06:51, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

Here's the thing though. All the other characters on the WfC page link to their G1 selves. If we're honestly going to assume that WfC is something new until proved otherwise than ALL of THOSE should be redirected to new WfC versions of those characters. Mightn't it be more simple to assume that this is G1 and then move it if it proves otherwise? --99.106.200.53 08:22, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

"Dreamwave" isn't a franchise, it's a publisher. No one's asking to move this to (Activision).

What concerns me a little is that everything we've read about both WFC and its own prequel, Exodus, sure sounds like being G1-enough for us to have already called it G1. "The War Within" is G1. "Megatron: Origins" is G1. We're probably going to see everybody basically acting like their G1 selves, making a big show out of meeting each other for the first time, there'll be at least one of the original 13 in there, and probably some secret alien gizmo buried underground. If that's basically how things go, then considering all the other kinda-similar-but-not-the-same flashback storylines we have accepted as G1, how would we not accept this as G1? Are there firm ground rules we can go with on this, to try to pre-emptively head off another "Swarm (IDW)"? (Bear in mind that WFC is not going to be a toyline either).

For instance, I could see firmly splitting this off from G1 if the Allspark as a solid physical object shows up. --Thylacine 2000 10:22, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

Well, I think a big part of determining that will be figuring out if the game actually is supposed to be part of the same universe as "Prime", and seeing if that universe in turn could be considered G1, or if it'll be something else. - Chris McFeely 10:29, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

<speculation> Hasbro is trying to set up a reboot of sorts that incorporates the best of Transformers lore. This universe will be the universe for the foreseeable future. It will look a lot like G1. So much so that it would make logical sense for the wiki to categorize it as G1. However, Hasbro will never, ever, use "Generation 1" to describe it. They would want to look forward rather than tie it directly to something 26 years old. </speculation> Therefore, even though it may be logical for the wiki to call it "G1", it may look silly and out-of-touch to do so. - Starfield 12:43, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

I repeat though, if we're not considering this guy G1 yet why are we considering all the other WfC characters to be G1 on that page. I know we haven't enough info to be sure either way yet, but shouldn't we be consistant and consider either all of them G1 or none until we know, and not have it one way for some and another for others?--99.75.107.112 14:31, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

Gotta agree with the anon, either move this back to Demolishor (G1) or start up a buttload of minor pages for the other WfC guys (Optimus Prime (WFC), Megatron (WFC), Bumblebee (WFC)). Khajidha 15:20, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

The anon who you're agreeing with does not understand how our disambigs work. Cheetor, Optimus Primal, and Tarantulas are all "from G1," but they have (BW) disambigs. We do not put (G1) at the end of every article for a character that appeared in the G1 continuity family. --ItsWalky 00:21, 10 April 2010 (EDT)

Oh, so you're using WFC here as a new franchise within G1 and not as a totally new confam? Okay, now it makes sense. With the hubbub about whether WFC was a new confam I had overlooked that interpretation of the disambig.--Khajidha 03:24, 10 April 2010 (EDT)

It should be "Demolishor (Prime)" now since we are using "Prime" as a franchise and WFC is part of the "Prime" franchise making "Prime" his franchise of origin. - Starfield 16:39, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

Caption

Bravo, whoever added the Phineas and Ferb quote. You get a cookie.Ratbatman 00:08, 10 April 2010 (EDT)

Armarda Homage?

Should we mention that WfC Demolisher SEEMS to be a homage to Armarda Demolisher

"Seems"? It's not really ambiguous at all. --ItsWalky 11:16, 12 April 2010 (EDT)

Voice actor

Technically, I don't think Demolishor has his own voice actor. His only sound clips in Escalation are generic ones that are used for all characters in multiplayer. Same thing for Scattorshot. --NCZ 09:55, 15 November 2010 (EST)

Confusion

"Demolishor is a clear homage to the Armada character of the same name—Play.com calls him "a regular character in the animated television show and one of Megatron's most faithful troops" I'm not sure how to interpet this, are we talking about Armada Demolisher in that quote in a quote, because if so, that seems like a random thing to put in this article. If it IS talking about this character, we need to edit it to say something along the lines of"This has not come to pass" Grimlock140 20:45, 11 July 2012 (EDT)

They're talking about Demolishor in the "Hall of Fame" character sense, where all dudes called Demolishor are the same character. --abates 20:58, 11 July 2012 (EDT)