Talk:Jim Sorenson (Animated)

Wouldn't the disambiguation note for this handsome fellow more properly be Jim Sorenson (SG)? --Jimsorenson 13:05, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

I was assuming SG was limited to the negative Primax universe. - Starfield 13:07, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Technically speaking, only Primax -408.24 residents are Shattered Glass characters, as that universal stream has its own Earth.--Rosicrucian^Talk 13:08, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

OK. Quadwal -3760.925 Theta is a terrible disambiguation, but I don't suppose it'll come up much. --Jimsorenson 13:12, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

I don't know if SG is that specific. Deathsaurus (SG) would be from Primax -408.01. - Starfield 13:18, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

So what you're saying is your negative counterpart is a handsome fellow? Hmm. -Mazenoise 15:04, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Actually, Shattered Glass is technically a continuity family by our organization, so if Quadwal -3760.925 is in fact a negative polarity continuity, then I think it technically would be (SG). Or maybe (SG Quadwal). Or at least this should be (Quadwal). (Yes I know, it won't come up much, but when has that ever stopped us figuring this sort of thing out?) --Jeysie 17:48, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Shattered Glass is technically in the Generation 1 continuity family, since it's in Primax, but it'd be a clusterfuck to include these guys on all the G1 character pages. Practically, we treat it like its own continuity family, but it is *technically* not. Quadwal is an entirely different continuity family. (The real world, to be precise.) --ItsWalky 18:27, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Well, except we're talking Negative Polarity Quadwal here, apparently, so just labelling it as "Quadwal" is a bit... off. Plus, tying into what Starfield pointed out, Shattered Expectations stuff has been going on the SG characters' pages even though it's technically a separate continuity, kind of further establishing (SG) as a continuity family identifier.

While this specific example is fairly inconsequential in the grand scheme of things, it does tie into the question of what happens if we ever get an SG version of the Movie or Animated or what have you, which would be more consequential. (Brain hurting commencing.) --Jeysie 18:36, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Shattered Expectations happens in Primax as well, so I'm fine with keeping its information on SG pages. It's still the same continuity family. But Quadwal absolutely is not. (I am not advocating any sort of parenthetical change on this article. It may be at the best possible place already. I am only providing information.) --ItsWalky 20:03, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Well... basically, I think establishing some kind of standard "mirrorverse" parenthetical qualifier would be useful. I would prefer to go with "SG" just because it's now sort of the codeword for TF-related mirrorversing, but really I'd be OK with anything logical so long as we had something. That way we could have "(qualifier) Quadwal", "(qualifier) Animated", etc. as/if needed.

(As a second note, I wonder if I should also state that using an in-universe name in the same manner an out-of-universe franchise identifier also feels a little odd. But then, what franchise name are you supposed to use for the real world?) --Jeysie 20:15, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

That is a good point. The parenthetical is the franchise the were introduced and not their in-universe origin. Seriously, I'm thinking it should be "Jim Sorenson (Animated)". - Starfield 21:49, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Does this really even need to be a page of its own, and not covered in the regular Jim Sorenson article? --KilMichaelMcC 22:07, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

If this is meant to be Jim Sorenson's in-universe fictional avatar, it does warrant an article, as it's a fictional character separate from the real world dude. --Jeysie 22:17, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Raksha, Simon Furman, Michael Bay, Roberto Orci, Alex Kurtzman, Hugo Weaving....? --KilMichaelMcC 22:19, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

So Jim Sorenson is somehow both himself and his mirrorverse self at the same time? He's a talented dude! ;) --Jeysie 22:23, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

In-universe, those people are supposed to be the actual person, even in their fictional appearances. Somehow. Or at least a version of the real person in the same continuity family (the "real world" continuity family?). This Jim Sorenson was specifically given a different universal stream than the real world. The AllSpark Almanac is an actual fictional publication in the Animated continuity—written by Jim Sorenson and Bill Forster's doppelgängers. It also happens to be a "real-world" publication. - Starfield 22:37, 6 October 2009 (EDT)