Talk:Junkyard (G1)
Battle for the Junk Planet
[edit]Awesome as the sight of the guy in "Battle on the Junk Planet" jumping into the air while bellowing "Hi-Ho Silver" is... it's not the Junkion trader. Same character model, but a different color model. -Derik 12:13, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
I'm not going to push the subject, but I'm in favour of ignoring the half-colour difference. Wouldn't be the first time we list a character as someone based on the model, even if they have a different colour scheme than they should have. Given that we have Wreck-Gar appearing with two Junkions of those models, I say it's a fair guess it's supposed to be the "Junkion trader". His colours might be worth a note, but conclusively calling him a different character based on the colour of a book that has a few more colour oddities is not what I favour. Geewunling 13:59, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
- "It probably was intended to be... but part of what I'm doing with this article is being strict. This "guy" appears in crowd scenes a lot, and he does have a few common alternate color schemes used for crowdfill that represent other characters.
- This article tracks this buy, in this color scheme only, not the color-swaps. When you do that, some interesting patterns emerge... like Wreck-Gar talking to him after be brings up Ultra Magnus's body and repairs him-- it really looks like he's congradulating this particular Junkion on his idea/good work. If you throw out that strictness and just use "any instance of this character model," then tracking this guy through the crowd scenes becomes essentially meaningless.
- Besides, the buy in Battle for the Junk planet is colored twice-- and he's colored consistently. Distinct color scheme that's not this guy. (Not to mention that charging boldly into battle like that doesn't fit the Junkion trader... he wasn't even in the front rank of Wreck-gar's war party, and he's gotten his aft handed to him in every fight he's ever been in on-screen. I don't think he's much of a fighter.) -Derik 22:46, 11 April 2009 (EDT)
Junkion 2
[edit]In putting together entries for Transformers Comic Magazine, have found a clear uncolored sample of the art used for "Junkion 2", as depicted in [Transformers Universe profile]. Does it make sense to start a fresh entry on this bot? -User:fairplaythings 15:47, 18 January 2010 (EST)
Proposal to move Junkheap to his own page
[edit]It's clear that the Universe Junkheap toy started as a Junkyard toy. But between the new helmet, new moustache and new name...he doesn't really have any more connection to the model-sheet "Junkyard" than just about any other Junkion. It kind of feels like we're straining to include him here because we all know he "should" be. But at this point, does the original intent matter more than what we actually got? We don't have the Movie Big Daddy or Crankcase on their G1 pages, after all. -LV 11:54, 15 January 2012 (EST)
- Yeah, I'm pretty much in agreement with this. --M Sipher 12:31, 15 January 2012 (EST)
- As much as I'd love a new Junkion page, his bio does make reference to repairing Ultra Magnus, which he did, along with some other dudes. I think this is probably a reference to them being the same character (although that Ratchet stuff makes no sense). --Terrortron 13:04, 15 January 2012 (EST)
- ...what? What exactly prevents Junkheap and Junkyard, as separate characters, from having both repaired Magnus? --M Sipher 13:38, 15 January 2012 (EST)
- Nothing prevents it. It's just I took the reference to mean they were the same character. I suppose he could have been one of the other Junkions helping Magnus, but intent and follow though suggest they are the same. -Terrortron 15:35, 15 January 2012 (EST)
- Ratchet being there precludes Junkheap's bio from taking place specifically in TFTM, versus some similar-but-different continuity. So who we see in TFTM put together Magnus is probably not relevant. --ItsWalky 16:27, 15 January 2012 (EST)
- Nothing prevents it. It's just I took the reference to mean they were the same character. I suppose he could have been one of the other Junkions helping Magnus, but intent and follow though suggest they are the same. -Terrortron 15:35, 15 January 2012 (EST)
- ...what? What exactly prevents Junkheap and Junkyard, as separate characters, from having both repaired Magnus? --M Sipher 13:38, 15 January 2012 (EST)
- As much as I'd love a new Junkion page, his bio does make reference to repairing Ultra Magnus, which he did, along with some other dudes. I think this is probably a reference to them being the same character (although that Ratchet stuff makes no sense). --Terrortron 13:04, 15 January 2012 (EST)
- But Movie Big Daddy and Crankcase are Movie-verse characters, not G1 characters. Junkheap is still a G1 character and the name is an obvious "blastification" of Junkyard, to me there seems no real reason to separate them. --Khajidha 18:06, 15 January 2012 (EST)
- On the "they're the same dude" side of the scale, there's the thing that they're still similar color layouts. --ItsWalky 18:11, 15 January 2012 (EST)
I don't see much of a difference between this and the Skyjack/Skyfall and Black Shadow/Sky Shadow scenarios. --Xaaron 19:41, 15 January 2012 (EST)
Generations Toys
[edit]Look... are we sure that Scrapheap is Scrapheap and Junkyard is Junkheap?
The Scrapheap toy looks for all the world like it was intended to be Junkyard. And the Junkheap toy literally could not be a word representation of Junkheap if it tried.
I mean... has Hasbro ever come out and confirmed "these are Junkion 1 and Junkion 2"? Could Junkheap be a different character from Junkyard? Maybe A11?
(For serials... it looks not-so-almost like there was a screwup and the wrong head went on the wrong body.) -Derik 20:33, 10 February 2012 (EST)