Talk:Live-action film series
Hasbro cinematic universe
[edit]I'm not sure why Paramount and Hasbro's plans to tie these Transformers movies into other film adaptations aren't considered relevant. Thoughts? Alientraveller (talk) 02:23, 17 December 2015 (EST)
- You've misread the news stories - the new GI Joe/MASK/whatever cinematic universe is going to be a separate thing from the Transformers cinematic universe. It's no more relevant to the Transformers film franchise than the existing Joe films. Jalaguy (talk) 07:01, 17 December 2015 (EST)
- Well there's egg on my face. Can we delete this page again? :) --Alientraveller (talk) 07:38, 17 December 2015 (EST)
Release Dates for BB Spin-off Movie & TF6
[edit]- Bumblebee Spin-off Movie – June 8th, 2018
- Transformers 6 – June 28th, 2019
Source: Hasbro Toy Fair 2016 Press/Investor Event FigureGunplaFan (talk) 10:04, 12 February 2016 (EST)
Criticisms of the movies?
[edit]We all know that the movie series is hugely divisive among Transfans. Since the pages for the Unicron Trilogy cartoons have their own "criticisms" sections, would it be fair to add a section for the movie series? Though there should be moderation in place to make sure it doesn't get overly negative and whiny (unlike Transformers Wikia's "Bayformer" page); I, for example, would edit from the perspective of someone who feels sorry for the Bay movie series and only truly enjoys TFTM and DOTM.--Samus Aran (talk) 09:34, 28 June 2017 (EDT)
- I for one have actually written an essay on this. Alientraveller (talk) 13:11, 18 February 2018 (EST)
Update on reboot
[edit]The article is currently locked so I'd like to share an update from the brand manager on the status of the sixth main film: "The points that Brian made about the reboot of the film franchise after Bumblebee? For sure, our team is working closely with Paramount and Machinima regarding the next chapter and the product lines associated with that... This is one where we are going to collectively pause, sow for what’s the next best story is and then put a toyline around that. In no way that it distracts us." --Alientraveller (talk) 13:11, 18 February 2018 (EST)
Continuity Notes for the Other Films
[edit]I noticed The Last Knight is the only sequel with a "Continuity Notes" subsection. This is my favorite part to read on the Wiki's. Any plans for making ones for the other Sequels?
Operation Skyfire
[edit]JP Targete posted his concept arts of the intended spin-off movie taking place in WWII. FigureGunplaFan (talk) 00:41, 6 February 2019 (EST)
According to Transformers' Producer, two new films are said to be in development.
[edit]Sequel to The Last Knight in the works [https://www.cbr.com/transformers-last-knight-sequel/ ]
And Sequel to Bumblebee, Buddy-Type Movie, with Optimus and Bumblebee as a duo in the vein of "Lethal Weapon". [1]
Bumblebee needs to be removed
[edit]It's not part of the Bayverse, it's an official reboot, and should be treated as such. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ChangingFate (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.
- No. Setting aside the narrative connections between the two, even if it were a reboot, we would still count it as part of the live-action film series. It's no different from treating the original cartoon and the Marvel comic as both part of G1. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 11:19, 17 October 2019 (EDT)
- With all due respect, I'd argue that that doesn't really make a lot of sense. It's entirely different from Michael Bay's movieverse. It's about something entirely different, and putting all information about characters in "Bumblebee" on the Michael Bay movieverse pages is misleading, as they are for all intents and purposes, 2 entirely different characters.--ChangingFate (talk)12:11, 17 October 2019 (EDT)
- If it's totally different, why do they keep releasing fiction meant to tie the two together? Regardless, this discussion has already been had and was decided on months ago. It's not going to change. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 12:14, 17 October 2019 (EDT)
- And the Blaster from the 1980s Sunbow cartoon was MUCH more different from the Blaster in the 1980s comics and they count as the same character. I think you just do not understand what we count as a single character here. --Khajidha (talk) 12:15, 17 October 2019 (EDT)
- Ok, then. Sorry, didn't know it had already been discussed, I just didn't get the logic. Sorry to bother you guys. --ChangingFate 12:26, 17 October 2019 (EDT)
- And the Blaster from the 1980s Sunbow cartoon was MUCH more different from the Blaster in the 1980s comics and they count as the same character. I think you just do not understand what we count as a single character here. --Khajidha (talk) 12:15, 17 October 2019 (EDT)
- If it's totally different, why do they keep releasing fiction meant to tie the two together? Regardless, this discussion has already been had and was decided on months ago. It's not going to change. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 12:14, 17 October 2019 (EDT)
Where are you getting this information that it's a reboot from? Everything from everyone official has been a confused statement that it's a prequel. Escargon (talk) 14:37, 17 October 2019 (EDT)
- Probably a misunderstanding or unsubstantiated extrapolation of this source: https://news.tfw2005.com/2018/02/16/transformers-cinematic-universe-current-movie-series-rebooted-358641 Saying that the movie series will be "reset" is a rather vague statement that could be taken at least a couple different ways. --Khajidha (talk) 15:25, 17 October 2019 (EDT)
- Not quite. I was taking about when they seemingly said it at Comic-Con. See below. --ChangingFate (talk) 15:28, 17 October 2019 (EDT)
- https://comicbook.com/movies/2019/02/17/bumblebee-official-transformers-reboot-hasbro/. Also, https://movieweb.com/bumblebee-reboots-transformers-franchise-hasbro/ and https://heroichollywood.com/bumblebee-officially-transformers-reboot/--ChangingFate (talk) 15:28, 17 October 2019 (EDT)
- Not a single one of the quotes in these articles specifically use the word “reboot”. The closest is “new storytelling universe,” which is such vague marketing speak that it could mean anything. And again, when all of the ancillary media surrounding the movie has it connected to the old stuff, the idea that it’s a reboot just doesn’t make sense. Escargon (talk) 15:42, 17 October 2019 (EDT)
Page protection
[edit]I've found a bit of a typo that I cannot correct due to the page protection. In the list of continuities, the bullet point before "Micro-continuities also exist in the form of video games, some toy bios, and certain comic story threads that are incompatible with each other." should be removed, as it is not one of the four main continuities mentioned and listed above. --Khajidha (talk) 14:19, 17 October 2019 (EDT)
Update required
[edit]Some of the info dates back to 2018.--Delibirda (talk) 06:15, 11 December 2019 (EST)
- And some of it dates back even further. What's your point? Are any of the statements no longer true? Does something need clarifying? Has anything new been announced? What sort of update is needed? --Khajidha (talk) 07:20, 11 December 2019 (EST)
- I DID notice that the sentence about the Bumblebee movie should be updated to reflect that it WAS released. --Khajidha (talk) 07:23, 11 December 2019 (EST)
Questions about Future Movies
[edit]At this point, I've acknowledged that there is no clear, official proof that Bumblebee is a reboot. However, just so I'm clear on how it would be classified, if future installments of the Live Action Movies are official reboots, but have a blatant, confirmed connection with Bumblebee, would Bumblebee also be considered a reboot, or would the various media that's been released linking it to Michael Bay's movies mean that it's still considered a part of that canon/timeline? I'm genuinely curious. --ChangingFate (talk) 18:31, 16 December 2019 (EST)
- They would probably be still on the same page in the same way that Optimus Prime (G1) covers G1 cartoon, Marvel, IDW, etc, probably just moved into a second "live-action film series" heading. Grum (talk) 19:30, 16 December 2019 (EST)
Can't edit, so here ya go
[edit]"What exactly this means is still unclear for the live-action universe is not yet clear;"
Remove "still unclear". --Khajidha (talk) 12:43, 30 January 2020 (EST)
- Finally we have an official release date (June 24th, 2022). So? What do we do now? --Grievous Prime (talk) 03:05, 04 May 2020 (EDT)
Suggestion: Use a different name other than "Live-action film series"
[edit]With the coming of Transformers One (a film that is NOT live-action), I suggest that it is time to rename the "live-action film series" to something more appropriate. Here are some suggestions to get the discussion going:
- Rename to "Transformers (film series)", which is Wikipedia's name for all films released since Transformers (2007) -- if it works for Wikipedia why wouldn't it work here?
- Rename to "2007 Film Continuity", based on the name style of 2005 IDW continuity after the original IDW comic continuity ended and the 2019 one began.
- Rename to "Transformers (Paramount Pictures continuity)" or "Paramount Pictures continuity", emphasizing the production company that links all the films together.
I'm not really for one title change or another, and I'm not a frequent editor so I don't know all the rules concerning renaming pages, but I figured I'd at least bring it up to think about. --Daytonjhammon (talk) 02:22, 30 April 2024 (EDT)
- The fact that Transformers One is a film that is not live-action feels like a point against changing this, since it just further emphasizes why we're specifying "live-action." If it's somehow intended to be in the same continuity as the live action films, that's news to me. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 15:15, 30 April 2024 (EDT)
- The current plan based on all the evidence presented is to categorize One and the live action films as part of the same continuity family, treating them as related-but-otherwise-incompatible in the same way as Marvel and Sunbow, though this may change following the film's release. There has been some minor discussion about changing the series name and shifting around how the related articles are organized based on this and other factors, such as whether the forthcoming G.I. Joe crossover leads to a shared Hasbro universe, but these discussions have been very informal and no firm decision has been made on that front. More in depth discussions on the community portal will likely be held after One is released and we have the full picture. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 16:00, 30 April 2024 (EDT)
- Ah, well if we'll be placing it in the same continuity family then yes, dropping "live-action" and going with just "film series" would make sense. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 16:26, 30 April 2024 (EDT)
- The current plan based on all the evidence presented is to categorize One and the live action films as part of the same continuity family, treating them as related-but-otherwise-incompatible in the same way as Marvel and Sunbow, though this may change following the film's release. There has been some minor discussion about changing the series name and shifting around how the related articles are organized based on this and other factors, such as whether the forthcoming G.I. Joe crossover leads to a shared Hasbro universe, but these discussions have been very informal and no firm decision has been made on that front. More in depth discussions on the community portal will likely be held after One is released and we have the full picture. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 16:00, 30 April 2024 (EDT)
One thing I need to emphasize is that you need not think of a singular "continuity". It's a collection of related works that we call a "continuity family"; the coherence of the individual plots with each other is not a concern when it comes to this categorization.
Not saying this to fingerwag at you or to oppose any renaming, but to prevent bogging this discussion down with overdone prequel/reboot back-and-forth. Saix (talk) 19:19, 30 April 2024 (EDT)
2026 movie
[edit]I know it's too early to tell, but someone should remove the details of that 2026 movie that was supposed to "come out" this year. Energizier 02:46, 25 April 2026 (EDT)