I actually changed my own mind on this while I was doing the section - the reason I dropped it under the G1 heading rather than at the bottom is that it's a part of the G1 franchise, whereas G2 and Classics are their own franchises. Ergo, it should go as a h3 under the h2 G1 header rather than an h2 below Classics. - Mammalian Verisimilitude 10:01, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
Hhhmmn... I'm not suuure... I mean, that's a perfectly valid reason for doing it that way, but I feel like it's just chronologically dishonest, is all. - Chris McFeely 10:16, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
Thing is, there's loads of "chronologically dishonest" stuff around the Wiki if you take that road - to pick a random example from RecentChanges, Thundercracker (G1) sticks 2009 TFCC Classics stories above 1984 G1 cartoon episodes! - Mammalian Verisimilitude 10:42, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
Well, as an example, that one is sectional and based on unrelated continuities. It's not like keeping things in chronological order of publication is one of my bugbears, or anything - I freely flout it all the time when it comes to stuff that's intended to read as one unsplintered timeline, like, say, the Japanese cartoon continuity. - Chris McFeely 11:02, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
The "Generation 1" section refers specifically to the original Marvel series, not the franchise. RG1 is not a portion of it like Earthforce or the Comic-Magazin is; it's a sequel series on the same level as G2 and Classics. 24.211.29.87 11:11, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
Is Regeneration One part of the Generation 1 franchise? It doesn't say "Generation 1" on the cover of the comic, it says "Regeneration One", like G2 comics said "Generation 2". - Starfield 12:16, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
The IDWverse is obviously not part of the "Generation 1" franchise, in my opinion. But that's neither here nor there. I was just bringing up a question. Regen One continues the same numbering. The Marvel comic was not called "Generation 1" either. I think the RG1 comic is just continuing the original series. It is regenerating the original series. It is the original series. It is clearly the intention that it be all one series. I suggest putting the whole series under one header, and change it from "Marvel Generation 1 comics." Maybe "The Transformers/Regeneration One comics." On a side note, Generation 2 was not intended to be the same series. It is the "next generation" of storytelling. The cover told us specifically that "this is not your father's Autobot." This new series is regenerating the original. - Starfield 14:30, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
I am going to make an earnest argument for a G2 mainpic:
1: Megatron's most prominent stuff to do is in that series, which does a lot to build up his relationship with Prime (honestly, thinking about it, it might be the first piece of fiction to present Prime and Megatron as having a sort of friendship.
2: Looking towards BW Megatron's page, we have his main pic being his Transmetal body, even though it's a body he only spends for a fraction of his time in BW/BM. Plus, it adds visual interest by having a different body from Megatron's main page.
3: It reflects what we have as Megatron's subpage opening.
4: The image is badass. Escargon (talk) 19:38, 6 July 2021 (EDT)
I don't disagree that Megatron's G2 time is prominent and influential, but... he's only in that body for a relatively short amount of time compared to the original comic, both US and UK. My suggestion would be someone maybe making a better composite or "collage" image (like we have for IDW Megs) of his two chief bodies (maybe even add in the Straxus clone) than that fuzzy one we had. --Nu-Priest (talk) 21:06, 6 July 2021 (EDT)
I could get behind the composite collage pic idea if it looks good.
As for the BW Megatron comparison, the Transmetal pic is a special case in that it actually used to be the original mainpic of BW Megatron back in the early days before the "first body" rule was really nailed down (along with the fact that folks really really wanted to keep it as some kind of mainpic since it is a glorious representation of BW Megatron as a character) so a special exception from the norm was made in its case.
Plus, one could argue that Megatron's time in Marvel G2 is not a good representation of his entire Marvel history, the majority of which paints a more humbling depiction of the character that G2 stands in contrast to (mainly because Megatron had a new toy to sell at the time). --Sabrblade (talk) 21:49, 6 July 2021 (EDT)
And, largely because of the mess that is the post-original run continuity, G2 is now like one of five different "endings" for the Marvel Comics continuity and the others don't even use that body. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:47, 6 July 2021 (EDT)
I extremely doubt that BW Megatron's mainpic being what the main pic of the main page was originally was the only reason why it was chosen for the cartoon section. As for the thing about "endings", G2's the one published by Marvel. Escargon (talk) 10:36, 7 July 2021 (EDT)
