Talk:Microtransformer

Merge

I would oppose merging this article with micromaster because... they're not the same thing. Represented by the same toys or not-- they are different concepts that don't exist side-by-side in continuity. Even the awful DW mini seemed to recognize the difference-- the only Japanese Micros it borrowed as crowdfiller were the ones released under the Micromaster Collection.

It's possible some of the content at Micromaster belongs here though. -Derik 23:37, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

What exactly is the difference? They're... small Transformers. There's really nothing else to either group. In fact, the deviation in name, to my mind, only seems to support their similarity. They're not called "Micromasters" in Japan because they have nothing to do with the Planet Master. Japanese fiction *could* have changed them in some radical way to associate them with Master, and let them keep the name - but they didn't. They just did exactly the same thing with them that American fiction does - presents them as ordinary-but-small Transformers, and changed the name so that it wouldn't contradict all the previous Japanese -master stuff. - Chris McFeely 23:59, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Micromasters are smaller and not Juvenile TF's.

The Micromaster Collection story seems to indicate there's an actual difference- IIRC something happened to the Protoforms in that continuity that caused them to 'become' Micromasters. -Derik 00:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I really don't think that them being a bit smaller and acting goofier is cause to consider them two irreconcilably different things. - Chris McFeely

"Acting goofier" describes just about the entire cast of any TF anime. Never mind that character scale is perpetually fucked-up in TFs anyway. --M Sipher 01:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

...so the fact the Micromaster Collection seems to establish that Micromasters are a separate thing,e ven in Japan is just... nto relevant?

Okay, whatever. -Derik 02:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

What distinction does it make between the two? That's not me being snitty, that's me really not knowing. All I've read of that is what the Kiss Players timeline says, where it's noted that a "Dimensional shockwave" makes them Micromasters (the point being not that they are Micromasters, but that they can transform, since they weren't able to being hit by it). - Chris McFeely 02:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

If we're to believe the circular new Takara timeline, then the Collection characters appear to be the same characters as the Battlestars/OpComb incarnations of the SixTeams, who are called "Micro Transformers" in OpComb. --M Sipher 04:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

The Sixliner booklet seems to link some mention of dimensional vibrations to the Micromasters. And the MC Collection is a timeline branch-- the Sixlinder components could well be Microtransformers in Op Com and Micromasters in MC even if they are two different things. -Derik 06:32, 20 January 2008 (UTC)