Talk:Predacon (BW)

...Where was it mentioned that the BW Predacons were decended from the G1 Predacons? - Fulcrum 16:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

In here --KilMichaelMcC 17:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Additionally, IDW's Beast Wars comic shows symbols based on the individual G1 Predacons on the walls of a BW-era Predacon chamber. Ah, yesterday's fanon = today's canon. --ItsWalky 18:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, someone edited out the part about the Pred council having their meeting on the space station and left a pointless fragment in its place. Either we should say they meet there like it did, or at least say there is a station. But just saying "they meet" is stupid and pointless and out of place in that section. Is their debate over the station?

Sorry. Leaving it that way was an accident on my part. --KilMichaelMcC 16:36, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Although they did appear to convene on the station in the Agenda, they were intended to meet on Cybertron. The IDW "Gathering" series, portrays them meeting on the surface of Cybertron instead. It might be said that convening on the station was only a temporary anomaly.

I was under the impression that they were intended to meet on a space station, but not the one hit by the Transwarp wave. I don't really know why I think that, or what the point would be. -LV 01:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

The script seems to think they're on that Predacon outpost:

ext. space -- as before

The Transwarp blast wave expands outward, approaching the Cybertronian system...

ext. predacon outpost command station -- space

Shaped like a cool predatory space station -- not a sphere. The wavefront PASSES OVER IT, triggering SPARK FLARES and ALARM KLAXONS.

predacon computer voice

Warning! Circuits disrupted! All systems offline!

Lights are going out all over the station.

inside predacon station

Dark inside, with FLASHES of light as sparks FLARE from disrupted equipment. Dark, vaguely-seen ROBOT SHAPES (ref. ep. 34) run in the corridors.

predacon computer voice

Predacon Command Outpost One inoperative. Emergency power activated.

Dim red emergency lights FLICKER ON in the floor. PUSH IN on them and:

match cut to:

int. tripredicus council room

START TIGHT on an emergency light in the tabletop as it FLICKERS ON. PULL BACK as we SEE that its dim redness vaguely illuminates the robot face of GENERAL RAMHORN. The two other members of the Tripredacus Council, GENERAL SEACLAMP and GENERAL CICADACON, are also dimly visible around the table.

Confusion?

So this part:

Following the Great Reformatting, a revived Predacon force under Razorclaw was preparing for war; the Tripredacus Council seemed absent, and we don't know how large this force was. Dawn of Future's Past Thousands of years after that, the Predacons have been shown to be actively at war with the Maximals across the galaxy Autorollers Roll Out! Big Convoy, Move Out and have an official army with a military academy. The top military rank at this time is "Emperor of Destruction", and any governing force beyond that is unknown.

Earlier in the article we refer to the IDW profile version where BW2 and Neo are set before the great war. Here we describe them as Thousands of years after Beast Machines. I understand there are different continuities involved here but the article, as written, does NOT communicate that well at all. (I'm not even sure that description is true in Japanese continuity by the way.) Just odd, and confusing. Anyone think this article might need a rewrite better seperating conflicting info by its appropriate continuity?--76.28.72.27 18:51, 24 October 2009 (EDT)

The Japanese timeline placing BWNeo and BWII as thousands of years later seems to be trying to fix the problems with them co-existing witht he US BW stuff... while ignoring all the little references (on both sides) that essentially demand they take place in the same time period, and creating much huger problems by putting them in the future.

I really want to ignore this stupidity. Or at least give it no more attention than we do the Beast Wars 0.0 story. -Derik 19:12, 24 October 2009 (EDT)

Quintessons

It would seem worth mentioning that the original Predacons and Sky-Byte were created by the Quints in cartoon continuity, plus they'd get a little green angry face in the corner. Terrortron 14:40, 21 July 2010 (EDT)

Clean-up

So, ah, maybe at some point someone could give this page a sprucing up like what was done for the Maximals? Because it needs a lotta love and attention. Smasher (talk) 12:39, 22 December 2018 (EST)

Merge with Predacon (RID)

I've put together a sandbox for a merger of this page and the "Predacon (RID)" page: User:Riptide/Sandbox:Predacons. I've tried to preserve as much of the information from this iteration as possible while leaving out the very "early-wiki" speculation and fluff. If anyone has any issues with me taking this live, please say so! --Riptide (talk) 14:58, 7 July 2021 (EDT)

Definitely yes. Grum (talk) 14:59, 7 July 2021 (EDT)

I was originally against this, but after thinking it over, if the Predacons of Rise of the Beasts are, in all likelihood, going to also be using the BW Predacon symbol and thus also be put on this page, then I'm okay with merging the RID Predacons into this as long as the intro is all-encompassing enough to account for the RID Predacons' unique qualities not shared by the BW Predacons (namely that the RID Predacons are the default version of their faction, having never been an offshoot of a preexisting Decepticon faction, since the RID Decepticons are instead a subgroup of the RID Predacons first created on Earth), and that we also note these unique aspects in the "2001 Robots in Disguise continuity" section. --Sabrblade (talk) 15:11, 7 July 2021 (EDT)

I'm definitely in favor of folding RID Preds into BW Preds, and having the Destrongers get their own page in the same vein as the Dimension Patrol. TransFormersfan1 (talk) 18:34, 7 July 2021 (EDT)

The thing about the Destrongers is that the show never really addressed the name difference, never explained if it referred to the whole faction (like if the Destron faction just changed its name to the Destronger faction but still kept the same insignia and such) or if it only referred to Gigatron's specific team. Either way, the Destrongers were functionally identical to the Destrons/Predacons of the Beast Era, so I'd say it's ambiguous enough to just cover the Destrongers on the Predacon page proper. --Sabrblade (talk) 19:10, 7 July 2021 (EDT)