Talk:Rampage (ROTF)

...maybe not a part of Devastator?

Perhaps the movie will make it clearer, but... well, in the adaptation he's present at the same time as the other Constructicons form Devastator.--Rosicrucian^Talk 02:51, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

I don't remember where I heard this, but I seem to recall someone saying Devastator not having any preset configuration, and just being formed out of whatever components are nearby. He is present in the Devastator toys. --Detour 02:58, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

The Constructicons are going to be complicated. No one except Demolishor is named in either the comic or novel. We know Devastator forms with Rampage and Long Haul from the toys. Since we see Rampage and Long Haul after Devastator forms I think there are two possibilities. 1) Those aren't Rampage and Long Haul we see but look-alikes. or 2) Devastator can form with any combination of Constructicons, including Rampage and Long Haul, but simply didn't include those two this time, meaning the toy is formed from different Constructicons than the movie. Unless, of course, the film clears this up. - Starfield 11:09, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

Just say Rampage the Yellow Leg guy...... and meanwhile he's also Rampage the Red Guy Who Fights Bumblebee. --FFN 11:12, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

That's no fun, and illogical. Usually continuity errors like that are separated by a few comic issues or episodes. I was looking forward to a "Rampage II" page or something. But if the fiction is illogical, you might be right that the wiki should reflect that instead of trying to patch it up. Another item of note: Rampage the Red is yellow in the comic. - Starfield 11:35, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

Detour--I wasn't at BC09, but I've read reports that source that notion to Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci's panel. They purportedly said that there is a huge tribe of Constructicons, of which any number may combine into Devastator, the latter being like a giant metal amoeba. --Thylacine 2000 11:38, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

Such a concept, if it can be written up well enough, would be ideal for the wiki to cover.--Rosicrucian^Talk 11:42, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

Regarding Devastator having no preset configuration based on comments by Kurtzman and Orci: How much weight would those comments have? The The Movie Universe book has a profile on Devastator saying "When large-scale demolition is called for, Hightower, Long Haul, Mixmaster, Rampage, Scavenger, and Scrapper team up like never before - as Devastator!" [like never before! *snicker*] It also has an image of Devastator's CGI animation model with little arrows pointing to the "Rampage component," "Mixmaster component,"... This and the toy seems to establish Devastator as having a preset configuration. - Starfield 12:26, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

Knowing no more than anyone else, I'd say the guidebooks and the toy are simply showing you what happens when Devastator is formed from Scavenger, Mixmaster, Hightower, Scrapper, Rampage and Long Haul (and maybe Overload) - it doesn't mean that's the only form he CAN take, but it means that's the form he DOES take in the movie - the "he could be formed other ways) simply explains why there are other apparent Constructicons (red Rampage, potentially Demolishor) who aren't part of Devastator-as-we've-seen-him. -LV 12:32, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

As the movie shows,

It's the same situation as King Neptune. There are multiples of at least Demolishor, Mixmaster, Rampage, and Long Haul, and any of the various Constructicons can form Devastator. However, they must have the right set of components. So, theoretically, there could be several Devastator at the same time.

Contrariwise,

the guy with Bonecrusher's altmode, Grindor, and the fact that the excavator who forms Dev in the movie is apparently Scavenger indicates that they're probably not actually multiples of any one guy. There are just a lot of TFs who share altmodes (and apparently therefore color schemes - maybe they all scanned the same vehicles?).

-LV 04:00, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Well,

they're not drones, but they have exactly identical bodies. They're almost certainly sentient, though.

Wrong Picture

Who's the dumbass that made a picture of a different constructicon the main image for this article?--86.87.28.191 16:31, 21 June 2009 (EDT)

Thanks for spotting that. It's been removed. --Detour 17:02, 21 June 2009 (EDT)

Y'do know that Rampage is red in the movie, right? - Chris McFeely 17:28, 21 June 2009 (EDT)

As of BotCon, both the yellow and red bulldozer toys are named Rampage. -LV 23:09, 21 June 2009 (EDT)

So...is that image Rampage or not? I thought it might be Scavenger, since the face was red, but between the above info and the available images here for Scavenger, now I'm not sure.--Apcog 02:10, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

It's most likely Rampage. Both Scavenger and Demolishor have red faces. We've not seen Scavenger's robot mode in any trailers/tv spots or promo images. --FFN 02:20, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

Some Constructicons in the film share a CGI model, in different colors. Scavenger and Demolishor are an example of this. I'm not sure if all of them have names though...--86.87.28.191 13:43, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

Wait, what red bulldozer toy? That was kind of a poor picture anyway. - Starfield 13:59, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

Is there some spoiler-related reason why nobody's clarified this yet? Because if it would help you to know,

the image most definitely IS Rampage. You never see a yellow Rampage in the film, and this red one is explicitly named in a subtitle shortly before he transforms. It's certainly not Scavenger, because we don't get a robot mode for him either.

Hope that clears it up. - Muddtallica 17:01, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

Sorry, I was thinking of Demolishor. I count him and Scavenger as essentially the same robot, owing to the extensive confusion between the two in the various media. So, substitute "Demolishor" into my previous comment. My question still stands.--Apcog 23:28, 23 June 2009 (EDT)

Has anyone considered this image of his concept art? It's obviously the yellow dude. [1] Krem 15:18, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

No, because it's an illegally leaked piece of concept art. Also, you're still trying to evade your permaban? Sheesh. --Detour 15:35, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

Skipjack?

Are we certain Skipjack isn't the name for the red jackhammerbot and Rampage is just the yellow one? Or is Red explicitly named Rampage in the film? --Detour 16:23, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

Red one's explicitly referred to as Rampage by Starscream in the film, yeah. - Chris McFeely 16:23, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

Good lord. So... do we make two pages? Because Yellow and Red aren't the same character and such... --Detour 16:28, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

How large is Rampage?

Several pages on the wiki indicate that the red Rampage is one of the four Constructicons that accompany Ravage to the bottom of the abyss, and admittedly you can see a red vehicle alongside the other three in the overhead shot. However, this vehicle and the robot it becomes are half the size of Long Haul, tops. Everywhere else we see the yellow Bulldozer that becomes Devastator's left leg - alongside Long Haul atop the cliff face before they combine, as the actual left leg in promo art and the movie, in the Legends and Supreme class toys (with approximately the same cab size for scale reference) - they're about the same size. Is Red Rampage actually a different size bulldozer to Yellow, or is the one at the abyss a different 'con altogether? Tarrn 19:43, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

You can see the spring base and whip arms, so it's clearly a Rampage. Rampage is definitely smaller than Long Haul - the Long Haul vehicle is way bigger, even in real life.KrytenKoro 22:44, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

The fact that combiner Rampage and solo Rampage are different sizes might make a good note for being a scale issue with the movie. - Starfield 10:56, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

Actually Combiner Long Haul and the bot-mode Long Haul are two (similar yet) different vehicles, the combiner one is around the same size as Rampage.Dead Metal 10:18, 19 July 2009 (EDT)

shovel stand?

Is that intentional? And how does it look?--Sunjumper 06:49, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

rampage is not the red robot seen in the movie that fights bumblebee, rampage is actually the yellow as seen in the figure, you see this only once times in the movie when ravage lands on the cargo boat with the constructicons to revive Megatron, rampage jumps/flips off the boat just before long haul. the red one that captures Sam's parents is anomalous in the movie but is extremely like rampage only the vehicles are different, the red bulldozer is a lot smaller than rampages

Yeeeeah, uh, no. The robot who flips off the cargo boat is red, and the red robot is later actually called Rampage in the film. - Chris McFeely 20:26, 11 August 2009 (EDT)

In scale with legends bee?

This is ridiculous, the scale chart clearly shows him being a voyager at best.--86.87.28.191 14:27, 27 July 2009 (EDT) In fact, after resizing the 2007 scale chart to make the human the same size as the one in the constructicon scale chart, it seems Bumblebee is excactly as tall as Rampage. therefore, i'm removing the incorrect trivia info.--86.87.28.191 16:29, 28 July 2009 (EDT)

I seriously question the scale on that chart - as one example, Long Haul's robot mode is far, far larger than it should be given the size of his alt-mode compared to the others. I made the original trivia line, and while I'm not going to reinsert it, it's obvious from the fight scene in the actual film and the scale of the actual vehicles they transform into (a 5th-gen Camaro is 4.84m long and 1.38m tall, while a Caterpillar D9 is 8.10m long and 4m tall) that Rampage is somewhat larger than Bumblebee. Tarrn 07:59, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

On-screen Rampage didn't look much bigger either. Bear in mind that many of the bots designed in 2007 are extremly tall for their vehicle modes. As for Long Haul, Josh Nizzi's original concept would allegedly have used a far bigger vehicle for him.--86.87.28.191 18:52, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

Also forgot to mention that Rampage is leaning backwards in that chart.--86.87.28.191 18:54, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

3 rampages????

In the film it's pretty clear what forms what, and at no point does there appear to be a third Rampage amongst Devastator. If it's about the vehicles that show up before the combination scene, another Long Haul type is seen above the rest. But I don't think he combines either. User:Eire 00.43 Aug 5th 09 (UTC)

There's two sets of treads on Devastator's left leg, plus Rampage is too small to form a leg that big.--86.87.28.191 18:17, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

Could they be Scavenger's? And as for size, Long Haul isn't the same size as Rampage or any of the others but he mixes quite well. Mass shifting was admitted to for the first film, I doubt they gave it much thought in this one User:Eire 23.21 08 Aug 09 (UTC)

In the transformation sequence in the movie, Hightower and Rampage form Devastator's left arm. It isn't shown who forms the left leg while he is combining, but when he is walking around you can tell it is Rampage and it is supposed to be Rampage. That might be where the 3 Rampages come from. The red dude, half of the left arm, and the left leg. - Starfield 20:55, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

Death

I keep reading that Rampage died, but getting your arms ripped off wouldn't kill a Transformer,.... right?--LesterX 17:24, 13 December 2009 (EST)

He got his head smashed in...User:Eire 22.26 Dec 13 09 (UTC)

What is it with Rampages and seafood?

I can't believe there's no jokes here about how 'skipjack' is a kind of tuna..

Another Legends figure

There is another Legends figure with a new mold: http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/rotf-legends-decepticons-392/rampage-hunt-for-the-decepticons-4475/

Editing mixup on the ship

Just before the constructicons jump into the water to revive Megatron, Ravage lands on the ship and in doing so he crases into the front of Rampage in his Dozer form... but as he hit Rampage, Rampage ia yellow. As Ravage walks next to Rampage, the dozer is then red. Also Starscream does tell Rampage to spring the trap in the desert and Rampage in red does speak before him and Bumblebee fight. he says "Sam Witwicky" and in the end credits the voice actor is said to voice Skipjack not Rampage. So there was quite a few editing mixups in this film.

Extra pic

Not sure if we need this or not. --Monzo 02:08, 10 February 2011 (EST)

Toy vehicle mode

While Rampage may turn into a Caterpillar D11 in the movie, his deluxe toy is most decidedly not a D11. Both the crawler configuration and the scale of the cab are vastly different. Rather, it resembles something similar to a Komatsu D575, a much larger bulldozer. Barring any objections, I think I will change the toy note. Even if we don't say it's a Komatsu D575, we should at least not say it's a Cat D11.Shellspark 23:28, 12 July 2011 (EDT)