Talk:Rumble (G1)

Not another FIRRIB war. SIGH....-Jetfire200000

First, new comments go at the bottom, not the top.

Second, I see no war. --Andrusi 22:31, 6 June 2011 (EDT)

Shouldn't this page just be 'Rumble'? - RolonBolon 17:40, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I think so, the only other Rumble I can think of is from GF.

On a similar note, how do we want to explain the fact that in the Japanese dub, Frenzy was the blue cassette? I think a "However, in the Japanese dub, all of this was done by Frenzy" would be the easyest. --FortMax 18:20, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Smallest Decpeticon?

Quite possibly. I remember one episode where he fought Spike. They were the same size, and Spike was actually able to push him around a bit, though Rumble, being machine, ultimately prevailed. But then there was another episode where Rumble was about double Spike's size.71.34.68.213 22:02, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Haha, scale! But seriously, he was indeed pretty consistently depicted as the smallest robot-mode Decepticon on the show, although Laserbeak or Ravage might have been smaller. He's probably not the smallest Decepticon ever, though--that honor would presumably belong to one of the Micromasters, or maybe one of the weird merchandise-only characters like Enemy. --Andrusi 23:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Italian name(s)

Uh... hrm. The Italian wiki page lists Rumble as Tartar and Frenzy as Scarlet (Tremor), with a note saying Frenzy/Tremor appeared in the live action movie. Meanwhile, an Italian article on the Movie compares Frenzy with his G1 counterpart, shows a screenshot of the blue robot, and identifies it as Tremor/Frenzy. The TF wiki currently lists Rumble as Tremor and Frenzy as Tartar.

Offhand, I can't find anything that says Rumble and Frenzy were actually sold in Italy. Given the evidence... I guess... the blue robot on the show was Tremor, but the Italians consider the blue robot to have been Frenzy? I am so confused. --Monzo 23:44, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Universe Bio

These guys had bios? And wouldn't this make him explicitly the G1 character? Chip 06:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

They were provided online for the guy who managed the class, and explicitly placed in the Universe storyline. Interrobang 03:56, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

G1/Universe merge?

Since we're merging all of the slightly different Universe characters, does this one count? —Interrobang 03:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd say so. The specific G2 Frenzy reference clinches it for me. Are all these "unofficial" bios still online? I've Googled around a bit but haven't found anything. - Jackpot 04:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Overkill's. I can't find the other two. They're lost in two years of posts. —Interrobang 04:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Rumble/Frenzy color switch

Without reopening that whole can of worms, I noticed that the G1 cartoon bible only lists Rumble and not Frenzy. Could the mixed up colors have been a result of only using Rumble in the beginning? It looks like an attempt to advertise both toys but only animate one. Frenzy doesn't show up until near the end of the first season and given that they were using plenty of generics, it looks like a conscious descision to exclude him initially. Has anyone ever heard anything about this?

I do believe they cartoon had an official policy to avoid using Buzzsaw, as he was included with Soundwave who was already being advertised with his prominent role. I've never heard anything about the other cassettes, but as they were all sold in two packs it's possible they didn't need to "advertise" all four of them. - Cattleprod 15:36, 27 July 2009 (EDT)

Headmasters voice actor help!

A little help from the literate! Rumble's Headmasters voice actor is:

This is from his only speaking role in Headmasters. What's absolutely and completely fascinating, however, is that this is the BLUE ROBOT - and he's actually credited as Rumble, not Frenzy! - Chris McFeely 16:20, 15 November 2009 (EST)

I know this is a decade late, but... that says Lambor (ランボル, AKA Sideswipe), not Rumble (ランブル). Is Hirohiko Kakegawa listed as Rumble somewhere else in the credits, or are we basing that whole note on a misreading? ...Actually, I see we don't even list Sideswipe as being in the episode this apparently came from, so maybe it is Rumble, but with a typo? Maybe someone who owns the series should double check that... -Ookalf (talk) 22:26, 10 May 2020 (EDT)

Featured article for December?

If we can get the Dreamwave GI Joe cossover filled in, I think this page is approaching featured article quality.--Rosicrucian^Talk 22:05, 15 November 2009 (EST)

My thoughts are two-fold here:

1. I think we should stick with Movie/ROTF guys as the featured through the holidays (It's what's big right now after all and can only help with Google-juice. - Maybe Sideways (ROTF)?

2. It seems none the Featured Articles so far have been an episode or comic story, and I believe that Target: 2006 has enough in it to be a featured article soon.

So my vote for the next 3 FAs would be:

• I. Sideways (ROTF)
• II. Target: 2006
• III. Rumble

But I'm just a lowly, fairly new-to-the-wiki editor and have no actual say. Also FIBRIR -- G1MarvelBlaster 10:23, 16 November 2009 (EST)

Uh?

Why did his new (US) toy go from coming soon to cancelled? The image looks like the guy who photographed it, who is Chris McFeely, stole the stock photography and put it against a white background! And on top of that, the thing about the toy go and says it was already released!! Argh! I hate the quality of this wiki, but then again, we are dumb, foolish mortals. --Kaon Prisoner 22:14, 6 June 2011 (EDT)

And I didn't mean what I said about us being dumb, foolish mortals, as an insult. --Kaon Prisoner 22:16, 6 June 2011 (EDT)

It's listed as canceled because its cancelled. And you can't steal stock photography its put out specifically for public use. If Chris cleaned it up thats good. The toy was released in Japan and canceled in the US. This is not a problem with the wiki, but apparently with your reading comprehension.--76.28.76.206 22:19, 6 June 2011 (EDT)

I'm kinda reluctant to say this, but, uh, you'd fix the info of Demolition Rumble, or it could just be me!

All done! --66.82.162.14 18:13, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

A thought

Just a thought, why is his primary picture red? I feel its a bit confusing considering someone else we know is red.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rock76222 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Because he was red and black before he was blue and purple, and isn't always blue and purple. The G1 cartoon is not the end-all, be-all, absolute truth version of Transformers. His first appearance (his 1984 toy) had him black and red, and so did his second appearance (the Marvel G1 comics). The cartoon came third and switched his and Frenzy's colors around for some unknown reason, thus leading to this (click, read, and be merry). Also, please sign your comments. --Sabrblade 02:00, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

You're outvoted by the sheer weight of canon. --ItsWalky 02:09, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

Repurposing

So, uh, please don't yell at me for suggesting this, but should the original Frenzy toy be listed on this page as a repurposing (and the G1 Rumble on Frenzy's page)? Maybe not with the standard "repurposed" note, but something more along the lines of:

The Generation 1 cartoon used the colors of Frenzy's toy for Rumble and vice versa, and so it is listed here as a repurposing.

You could probably make the argument for the Masterpiece Frenzy too, but I feel like that's a different situation, despite being closer to cartoon-model Rumble. --Riptide (talk) 13:02, 10 September 2015 (EDT)

But what about later toys, like the Masterpiece Rumble and Frenzy? The same argument could be made about them. A quick note at the top of the toy section redirecting people over to Rumble/Frenzy's page would be better than listing each others' toys on their respective pages. (If we feel it's absolutely necessary to do so, that is.) Or maybe even just a slight modification of the "This mold was also used to make Frenzy and Enemy." line at the end of their toy descriptions. "This toy was also used to make Frenzy and Enemy. Due to an animation error in the cartoon, that has since been purposefully imitated, this toy could also be considered to represent Frenzy, whereas Frenzy's toy could be considered to represent Rumble." Something like that, I dunno. --Ascendron (talk) 16:33, 10 September 2015 (EDT)

Agree with Ascendron. A quick note at the beginning of the toy section is the most that is needed. --Khajidha (talk) 20:24, 10 September 2015 (EDT)

Alright, how about something like:

The Generation 1 cartoon used the colors of Frenzy's toy for Rumble and vice versa. Because of this, toys of Frenzy could be considered to represent Rumble instead. For those toys, see Frenzy (G1)#toys.

at the top of the toy section - does that work? --Riptide (talk) 07:40, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

I'd wait a day or so to see if anyone objects, but it seems fine to me. --Khajidha (talk) 08:04, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

I don't see why the currently-already-existing bit about this in the Notes isn't sufficient already. --ItsWalky (talk) 08:29, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

I guess. I just thought that having a mention in the Toys section would be a) clearer and b) more in line with how the wiki treats similar repurposings, but it's not a big deal. --Riptide (talk) 09:07, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

I also don't think FIRRIB is really repurposing, either. --ItsWalky (talk) 11:14, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

Why not? It's the use of the design of one toy for a character it wasn't sold as, which is how official repurposings are defined. Isn't it? I dunno, you're the admin here. How would you define a repurposing? --Riptide (talk) 11:35, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

I don't think anyone at Sunbow took a look at the two tape toys and though, "Hey, let's use this one's colors, but purpler, instead!" I feel like there has to be intent behind repurposing. It'd be like saying the swapped-named Downshift and Cliffjumper in Transformers Energon was repurposing. It's just a production error. --ItsWalky (talk) 14:21, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

Spotted an editorial mistake

In the Marvel comic section two stories have been placed in a completely random wrong place i.e. 'To a Power Unknown' and 'Missing in Action'. You have already stated on the 'Missing in Action' page "further validating the idea that the story cannot possibly be part of UK continuity." So these are in the wrong section. I hope someone will correct this.--Ryangut (talk) 14:12, 16 January 2026 (EST)