Talk:Shelfwarmer

Early comments

Real Gears move O.K. in my neck of the woods.

Signal flare and Offshoot however, despite their awesomeness, lasted for years.Chiasaur11 03:30, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not sure the entire Real Gear line could be lumped in as "pegwarmers". I know there's some give and take depending on where you're located, but it's not like there's pegs and pegs of these things just sittin' around for months on end... -- Repowers 03:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

...well, there are everyplace I've looked since July. I guess it is a regional difference, but if so it's a very stark and extreme one.--Thylacine 2000 13:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd say Signal Flare and Offshoot should replace the Real Gears. The Real Gears are moving well, I haven't seen Meantime and the gorilla game controller since I picked up my own. Signal Flare and Offshoot were hanging around well into 2006. --Detour 04:11, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah the way things went over the summer, I don't think one can objectively call any of the movie toyline "shelfwarmers" in the truest sense. At least in the case of the actual transforming toys rather than all the tie-in merchandise, nearly every store has had trouble keeping them on the shelves.--Rosicrucian 04:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Power-Up is the only RGR who I'd say would qualify as a shelfwarmer. Everyone eles moved and moved well... and I've hit a LOT of stores in a fair few states since the movei-line launch. --M Sipher 13:26, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Swindle and Bonecrusher in Germany. Seriously. I know I might sound like a broken record, but these fuckers are STILL warming the pegs in half a dozen stores I visited over the past few weeks, and that's more than three months after the two of them first came out. One TRU store even still has TWO ENTIRE SHELVES full of them.--Nevermore 19:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Supreme Cheetor and Alternators Swindle should be added to this page, I think. Also, I don't know if it was only my area that was like this, but the stores in my area were LOADED with Drill Bit and Manterror for years, even after Beast Machines was on the shelves and even after Transquito and BW Scavenger finally vanished. Wal-Mart, Target, K-Mart (ESPECIALLY K-Mart), even the GROCERY STORES had these guys flooding the shelves for years. They made it hard to get early Beast Machines toys until the stores finally decided to take them off the shelves. C.V. Reynolds 11:15, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, excuse me. I should tried to make my comment actually make some... sense. Yes, Drill Bit and Manterror were on the shelves all through the remainder of Beast Wars, but they didn't cause as much trouble as I made out. Some of the stores were giving more space to Transformers at the time, after all. It did briefly seem like Drill Bit and Manterror were disappearing at one point, but they returned in full before Beast Machines. I believe that the stores may have wanted to take one more try to clear their inventory of an ending line, and put out their remaining shelfwarmers in hopes they might actually sell. Much like in the case of the Fuzors, clearance failed to work for these guys as well. Still don't know if any other places were flooded with Drill Bit or Manterror, though. 71.243.235.10 11:32, 26 December 2007 (UTC) It logged me out while I was typing my message for some reason, so I'm re-signing. Sorry about that. C.V. Reynolds 11:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

As a random aside, and possibly an isolated case, but I remember as late as... I dunno, but the first waves of Toy Biz Marvel Heroes were out, there were still reasonable piles of Insecticons at some toy stores in the Atlanta area. (Specifically, at a Lionel Toy World near my childhood home - I found them while looking for the first Toy-Biz Daredevil, shoulda bought 'em). -hx 02:45, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

This might be pointless to ask, but can we get some verification on the shelfwarmer/pegwarmer status of some of these toys, especially Transformers Movie Stockade? I can verify as a personal eyewitness that Movie version Payload is a pegwarmer (my local Wal-Mart store has about two or three pegs filled with nothing but Payload). However, I've only seen Stockade from time to time, so he seems to be quite popular in my area. - Zadok Rox 02:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Current (April 2009) shelfwarmers...

The TRU exclusive Mudflap should probably be mentioned, a shelfwarming redeco of a shelfwarmer. Whose bright idea was this? Also, is it just my area that seems to have unlimited numbers of original deco Animated Lugnuts? Khajidha 21:35, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

It's July and ROTF is out (obviously). Try buying a Voyager Movie 2 anything that isn't fucking Demolishor. I checked pretty much every toyshop worth looking at in London, and only once managed to find Starscream (or indeed anything that wasn't Demolishor).

That's London as in the largest city in the UK. Yeah. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.154.60.137 (talk • contribs){{#if:16:24, 15 July 2009| 16:24, 15 July 2009|}}.

Demolishor certainly seems to be around in greater numbers than most other Voyagers here in San Antonio, but I still see a fair number of Starscreams and Stratospheres, a few Megatrons, and sometimes some Optimus Primes. The Fallen and Mixmaster have also shown up, but haven't been refreshed on the shelves as often, at least at the Wal-Marts and Targets to which I've had time to go.

The point is, while Demolishor may indeed turn out to be shelfwarmer, your local Voyager availability status alone isn't enough to judge. Your situation is regrettable, but not necessarily representative of the situation anywhere beyond London, or at least whatever falls within your definition of "toyshop[s] worth looking at in London".

Oh—and please don't forget to sign your talk page posts. Click the signature button (second from the right) above the edit window, or type four tildes (~~~~).--Apcog 18:19, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

as for August 2009...

While the fifth wave of Animated STILL haven't reached Poland, there's LOTS AND PLENTY of Jazzes, Oil-Slicks (seriously, who would want this guy...?), Snarls (same here - but Swoops have vanished!) and Soundwaves lying around. Damn, they even started to cut these Deluxes' prices by half in some markets. ...but try buying first wave's Prowl for example. I went on a damn shopping crusade and in the end I settled for an online shop. And international shopping's is really expensive. At last I found my Prowl in an obscure toy shop, totally by chance, by the way. I bet it was the last copy around. And we're talking 'bout the capital here. Ah, the bitter joy of being TF fan while living on the Outer Rim of the galaxy. -- Silvery 06:28, 29 August 2009 (EDT)

As of March 2010

Big Bad Toy Store claims to be sold out of Battle Unicorns. I just looked. (Darn darn darn darn darn. I want that toy. I smell scalpers). ZeldaTheSwordsman 23:09, 15 March 2010 (EDT)

Japanese movie toys

Am i the only one who noticed that they are publishing Japanese movie toys in retail now? I noticed it in Belgium, but i have no idea if the rest of Europe/America has the same trend. If so, could this be considered to be such shelfwarmers that they try to get rid of the Japanese toys in time for the ROTF toy line?(not that i'm complaining...clear windows '76 Bumblebee? battle damage Arcee? count me in!)--Sunjumper 15:23, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

Titanium Galvatron

The major shelfwarmer ever? Titanium Galvatron, he has been lying around in my city for years, and only one store got rid of him, by selling himm at $2. In other stores (just one because the other having him closed and they had like 10 of him) there are about 6 or 7 and there's so little chance of him selling out (has been there for 3 years), that I call the place "Galvatron's lair", and to make matters worse, they STILL have the T.E.C.H. line.ACIDSTORM92 20:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)

Both Titanium Galvatron and the T.E.C.H line are still there, I guess that sets a new record.-ACIDSTORM92 03:38, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

Might come as a shocker for most of you, but Galvatron is STILL there, he appeared to be gone, but it seems he never left. Might have to buy the little guy afterall and erect an altar in his honor.-ACIDSTORM92 04:40, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Wow! Just wow. --Khajidha 10:13, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Mudflap

In Northern VA, Mudflap, along with the "Tuner" variant are major shelfwarmers. Is this true in any other places?--MistaTee 15:49, 27 May 2010 (EDT)

He does shelfwarm quite well in France - in my sector, anyway (along with Chromia, Skids and Wheelie...) --HunterCham 16:04, 27 May 2010 (EDT)

All over the place here. Some stores, he's at least 90% of the peg contents. --M Sipher 16:14, 27 May 2010 (EDT)

Around here (NC foothills) both twins, in all size classes, are major shelfwarmers. When will movie makers learn that trying to force a "kid appeal" character never works? --Khajidha 11:45, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

He's all over the place here, too. TRU is sold out of all their new stock except for a few HFTD Legends and one PCC, but Tuner Mudflap still dominates. Here's a thread on seibertron.com about it: http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/tuner-mudflap-killed-wal-mart-s-transformer-section-p1101154.php--Kookaburra 16:04, 21 July 2010 (EDT)

I haven't seen him. But then again, I live in Belgium and the local store is full of ROTF Demolishors anyway. ---Blackout- 16:18, 21 July 2010 (EDT)

You know what, Hasbro should never use the name Mudflap again, is cursed. I went to many stores in Texas, Alabama and Florida and every store had Mudflaps and Tuner Mudflaps, in some cases it was the entire Deluxe pricepoint.ACIDSTORM92 02:00, 29 July 2010 (EDT)

It's not so much the name that's cursed, as much as it's Hasbro releasing what amounts to practically the same toy twice, within a very short timespan. I know they're going for "recognizability" here but GEEZ. --Detour 02:05, 29 July 2010 (EDT)

Plus, it's a crappy toy. It makes the previous Mudflap toy look great by comparison. --Khajidha 08:16, 29 July 2010 (EDT)

I wouldn't say "crappy", but Hasbro could of done better. Btw, one of my local Walmart stores in the northern part of South Carolina had plenty of Tuner Mudflaps. Meanwhile, the one closest to me has Sideways and Dead End clogging up the pegs (maybe they should trade some?). - Zadok Rox 09:29, 29 July 2010 (EDT)

Verbosing/De-verbosing

Hey, Loki? My cleanup actually made the page shorter (not more verbose), and cut out a lot of redundant adjectives. I also shortened or split a bunch of run-on sentences. And, some of the original text simply makes no sense, like "As the fandom became more aware of the concept of shelfwarmers and as Hasbro changed its strategies in selling toys to retailers, documenting what is and isn't a shelfwarmer became more and more acute." How can documenting be made more "acute"? So, instead of a wholesale revert, could you tell me which specific bits of my edit you had problems with? 'Cause I still think the last part of this page needs serious cleanup. Thanks! JW 15:10, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

Looking at a lot of overuse of contractions, quotation marks, and useless parentheses makes it look much less formal like a 14-year-old wrote it. Besides, filesize is not inversely proportionate to the amount of useful information contained within the article; sure you could make it shorter and cut out verboseness, but it is possible to have more uneeded words with a shorter page by cutting out useful information in favor of the text in question. Special symbols like quotation marks and parentheses should be used sparingly, opt to learn how to use semicolons effectively and how to word sentences to stress certain words or phrases without quotation marks. As for "How can documenting be made more "acute"?", acute means sharp and so can mean clear like a clear command or sentence, resulting in the sentence meaning "Documenting can be made clearer by presenting more accurate information" without so many words by using the word "acute". Also, don't fuss about your edit being reverted. In this case, I reverted it so while you are making a better cleanup the rest of us don't have to read your not up to par changes in the meantime. Although there are some people who are very fussy about their pages being edited in a way they don't necessarily like, I don't revert edits for reasons like that. --LokitheGrammarNazi 15:29, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

Loki, I'm the author or co-author of a dozen or so books (available through Amazon; tell your friends!), so I do know my way around grammar. And I'm not making a fuss, I'm beginning a discussion. Third, while "acute" does indeed mean "sharp", "severe", "penetrating", "brief", or "sensitive", it does not mean "clear" or "easy" in normal usage. If you can point to an example elsewhere where it's used that way, I'd be enlightened.

Regardless, thank you for your reply. If I feel a need to edit this page again, I'll start with a strict trim for length, so we can take things one step at a time. JW 15:44, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

If I should cite where acute can mean clear, then you should cite what books you authored because all I have to go on about your knowledge of grammar is that you play with legos, not that making lego creations at your high caliber is a bad thing but it does make me think that grammar is the least of your worries. At least you can spell the word "grammar" as I see not a whole lot of people can around here. Immediately demanding as to why I edited your edits a minute after I made them does seem like you were making a fuss over it, but at least I am not the type to start a mediocre playground argument. Hell, writing an argument that is boiled down to "I did this wonderful thing that automatically makes me smart" sounds like you made it up just to try to impress me, however shamelessly and soullessly advertizing it in the same sentence also makes me give you the benefit of the doubt. But do not worry, another user has already put your edit back on top, not that I agree with his edits either. I am not re-reverting that edit because I do not want to look like those who just revert every single revertation without a written reason like that person to any of the moderators. --LokitheGrammarNazi 16:00, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

I reverted it because JW had clarified several sentences and reduced the verbosity of the paragraph. Also, I question the validity of the grammatical opinions of a person who uses verbose as a verb (I'm giving JW the benefit of the doubt that his section header is simply playing off of your usage). Not to mention that there is no such word as "revertation", it's reversion. --Khajidha 16:08, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

Playing? Moi? Thanks for the positive vote, Khajidha. I was worried I'd lost my touch. JW 16:27, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

Just what are you playing at, JW? Sorry, had to do it :) --MistaTee 16:43, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

Hey, my Furmanism days are over, fin- uh, completed. Um. JW 16:46, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

I did change a few things that I felt were still unclear or clunky. I also removed pipes from links that didn't need them (retools instead of retools).--Khajidha 16:45, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

then you should cite what books you authored

The first link on my user page is to a bibliography. My real name is also there, and can be used to search on Amazon. Loki, may I ask a personal question? Your writing is very precise and usually correct, but kinda stilted. Is English not your first langauge? For example, "Hell, writing an argument that is boiled down to..." is arguably okay, but would much more often be written as, "Hell, writing an argument that boils down to..." or even, "Hell, you wrote an argument that boils down to..." Further, you used "advertizing", which is a very rare spelling of the word, and you didn't capitalize "Lego". So, I ask, because you intend to be this Wiki's "Grammar Nazi", and I'm curious about your bona fides. Please let me know if I offend.

(Also, dude, this is a website about robot toys. Getting condescending because I also "play with legos" {sic} is inane.) JW 16:23, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

It's best not to take someone's user name too seriously. I personally couldn't think of anything better as my real name isn't too good and flashy of a screen name. Sure, I may have made a few mistakes here and there but everyone does. English most definitely is my first language, but I have read many a book by some authors who don't have a very good grasp on it plus a few southern local trends do play a subtle part in my method of speech. Usually I do not police my writing on the internet with as much scrutiny as demonstrated in places like in my personal writing or even writing for an academic assignment where editing myself up to par with my own standards requires contant editing in bursts, as you can probably see in my user contributions. Sometimes my train of thought exceeds the speed that I can type at and some words get lost in the void and don't get typed down and so look horrible. Besides, most of the edits that live up to my screen name are for punctuation like too many commas or misuse of colons and semicolons, though I do rarely alter the structure of a sentence so it sounds right, whatever that may mean to any one person. Overall, you seem more like the kind of person I could get along with... grammatically, of course. --LokitheGrammarNazi 17:15, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

Lord knows I can be obsessive about commas, too. JW 18:52, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

Animated shelfwarmers

Snarl and Oil Slick, anyone? All of the Toys R Us locations I've been to recently (in Canada and the USA) are packed with these guys. While Walmart and Target have gotten rid of Animated products to make room for 2010 and Generations, Toys R Us has the new lines while leaving Snarl and Oil Slick to lie around. Plus, someone above me mentioned them. There were also 11 (I counted) Atomic Lugnuts, but I don't think he's shelfwarming nearly as bad as the other two. Do they deserve a mention in the article? --NCZ 15:36, 13 October 2010 (EDT)

Around here Snarl is clogging shelves but Oil Slick sells about as well as any other animated figure. The squadrons of Lugnuts (both decos) eventually disappeared after several months. Animated Ratchet is possibly the biggest shelfwarmer at my local TRU. Arcee, Rodimus, even Ironhide disappear instantly, this guy stays and stays. --Khajidha 17:04, 13 October 2010 (EDT)

At my TRU it's the same, with a lone Electrostatic Soundwave as the only non-Cybertronian Ratchet hold out.--Kookaburra 21:16, 14 October 2010 (EDT)

Animated is pretty much all sold out where I am. Even the single, solitary Lugnut that had been hanging around for months is gone. ---Blackout- 02:12, 15 October 2010 (EDT)

The Retail Cross Reference Conundrum

Something I'm not immediately seeing described in brief Google searches or here in this wiki is what I've taken to calling the "Cross Reference Conundrum" and that's when retail cross references (the store's computer system treating different toys of the same class and price as if they were the same item for stocking purposes) forces the unpopular toys to stick around taking up space and filling the store's count and end up blocking the popular ones from either shipping or, in the case of less-than-mindful employees, being stocked despite boxes sitting in the backroom. I work at a retail store that sells Transformers and since a single space can be dedicated to a great many toys from the same size class/price point, the store's quota is filled because it has all it "needs", even if the majority (or heck, even every last one) is some lousy repaint nobody wants to buy. Sure enough, when the space finally does sell down at whatever pathetic pace and the popular ones are restocked, they sell out in no time. I've seen some popular Voyager Class toys sell in mere hours after they were stocked into space previously occupied by other Voyagers that took a few weeks to sell. I swear, the existence of cross references and its unintended survival-of-the-least-popular side effect likely reduces some sales to a fraction of what they would be, and I'm amazed retailers and toy manufacturers like Hasbro tolerate this. (Or am I mistaken and do sales, whether fast or slow always somehow equalize in the end?)

Anyone else note this phenomenon in the world of transformers, or even toys in general? I'm not certain what search terms would bring up discussions about it, but I've even had employees at other, unrelated stores tell me "If we get it, it will appear here, but until these sell down we won't be receiving anymore." or words to that effect. Any on-line references could justify a mention in this article, but without such refs, I'd just be ranting with such an inclusion.

Thanks, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.254.80.136 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

That makes a lot of sense, and if we can get a little corroboration would be a valuable contribution to the article. JW 10:14, 6 December 2010 (EST)

I spoke to a Hasbro rep who was in my local Walmart a few months ago about this. According to her, Walmart uses the system described above where as long as there is product on the shelf new orders won't be made even if all 49 figures are Tuner Mudflaps. --Khajidha 08:24, 7 December 2010 (EST)

Yeah, that sounds exactly right. Everything is done by item count, and if every Deluxe Transformer whether Generations, HFTD, ROTF, or RTS, is scanned as TRANS DLX FIG then as long as there are an adequate number of TRANS DLX FIG on the shelf, there's no need to put more out. (This also leads to cases where ostensibly JUST Hunt for the Decepticons Deluxes are on sale, but all Deluxes ring up at the sale price.) We just need this clarified and explained by a reliable and citable reference. -hx 10:48, 7 December 2010 (EST)

Yeah, I knew my conversation wouldn't be a reliable source, just confirming that the general idea is correct and should be explored. I also think that the different main lines are inventoried seperately, meaning that Generations would get reordered even if HFTD was still clogging shelves. --Khajidha 10:56, 7 December 2010 (EST)

Having worked in one of the aforementioned toy departments, I can confirm that Khajidha's information from the Hasbro rep is correct. I believe Khajidha's right about main lines being inventoried separately as well. I left toys before Universe 2003 started so I don't know for sure how concurrent lines are being handled, but I do know that RID, Armada, and Energon were not cross-referenced with each other. Have to wonder who would be a reliable and citable source that would also be willing to verify our information in a reliable and citable way? I don't see Wal-Mart wanting to verify this at such a level. --Tigerpaw28 12:10, 7 December 2010 (EST)

This sucks. Those Tuner Mudflaps are gonna limit the deluxe stock of Transformers for YEARS! --MistaTee 17:36, 7 December 2010 (EST)

Years late all round but I remember similar problems with Argos. For those unfamiliar with the chain or concept, Argos is a catalogue store where you chose items from a catalogue, fill out a form and pay at a til (or now on a machine), then the goods are collected from the stock room. The system broadly works and allows a store to stock and turnover more than it would with shelf displays, but for smaller toys it's never been very good at itemising the different ones in a range so you wind up ordering blind and even then getting the sub-line. During the Beast Wars era it was common to order a deluxe Fuzor or Transmetal and get a "choice" of earlier deluxes presented even if one of the new toys was on the limited display shelf. I don't know how responsive the system is now or if it led to instant returns (though the average person buying a toy of that kind in Argos probably isn't an expert on the range or the recipient's collection) but it's a rare case where the customer is interfacing with the stock system. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:28, 18 September 2014 (EDT)

UK Entertainer shelfwarmers as of June 2011

Seems that ROTF Mixmaster is still at Entertainer stores across the West Midlands of the UK (possibly nationwide) in bloody fleets. There must've been a massive glut of the middle waves of ROTF because skids, mudflap and chromia did the same and it meant Generations and RTS never made it onto their shelves. HFTD never made it past wave 1. What's truly sad is a recent fleet of those first movie unleashed Megatron statues have suddenly arrived and nobody gives a toss. Animated Shockwaves and Skywarps did the same last year but those were desireable. They're still trying to clear out the Bumblebee voice changers as well. Durge 11:52, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

Dark of the Moon in Australia (Or at least Brisbane, Queensland)

Summed up?

Everywhere. Strafe from the 2010-11 lineup is fairly unpopular too (Though, honestly, Wave 3 was skipped entirely and wave 4 only appeared in May of -2012-)

Most of it comes from stubborn refusal to mark down anything at most stores along with a HEAVY glut of wave 1 toys, Leader Bumblebee and Ironhide are still sitting at a 'normal' $70. Most deluxe toys are knocked down a few dollars ($20-30 standard, $15 on 'sale') but aren't moving at all.

I should have taken a picture when I was in the city, an eight foot span that was six foot tall FILLED with DotM toys on pegs at least six deep. I'll post a catalog page next time I get a toy one considering they're ALL filled with DotM toys in an effort to get them to go.114.77.169.116 11:54, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

Prime Bumblebee

Is it safe to say that Prime Bumblebee (and his remold/recolors to some degree) are pretty much Shelfwarmers? --MistaTee 12:08, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

Not unless they're still there next year. --ItsWalky 15:17, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

Yeah, a toy has to stay on the shelf long after it STOPPED shipping to be a shelfwarmer. BBs problem is that Hasbro has been and still is shipping him in huge numbers compaired to everyone else. He comes at the problem from an entirely different direction. An "Overshipper" rather than a "Shelfwarmer" if you will. At least so far.--76.28.76.206 15:29, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

Bumblebee has had the problem of being the 'Kid focus character' for the past few lines, being shipped in large numbers while getting SEVERAL redecos that are then shipped in equally large numbers. Someone in Hasbro's marketing team evidently thinks that kids'll nag for ANOTHER Bumblebee just because the new one is a different colour. But, it seems to have equaled out so far... Maybe they've been bought up to kitbash into Cliffjumpers? 114.77.169.116 20:47, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

Not around here. EVERY store has pegs and pegs of nothing but BB. Sometimes both the yellow and the grey versions stick around in large numbers. --Khajidha 20:54, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

It's not just Prime Bumblebee. The TRU near me still has ROTF Leader 'bee (at least since the last time I was up there, about a month ago). My local Wal-Mart has an endcap of just DOTM BBs. And at least 6 or 7 of the PRID versions.--108.20.212.48 12:23, 2 September 2012 (EDT)

Nobody at Hasbro thinks kids will ask for a second Bumblebee because he's in different colors. They think a kid might want a Bumblebee after the old one has stopped shipping, so they keep Bumblebee around in various decoes so he's always available for a new customer to buy into the brand. It lets them superficially refresh their product to keep the retail buyers happy, while letting them make "entry" characters always there for people who want them. -LV 12:48, 2 September 2012 (EDT)

CW shelfwarmers

Anyone else think the Jetfire seeker retools qualify?

Skywarp does, at least. All but one of the stores that sell large Transformers in my area still have him, and consequently none of them have had the TR leaders yet. (And the one store that doesn't have Skywarp? They never got him in the first place because they still have at least 12 Megatrons.)

Thundercracker is gone by now but he did linger for long enough to make Ultra Magnus rare. NovaSaber (talk) 14:49, 11 September 2016 (EDT)

All three Seeker redecoes linger around here, Starscream less so but still not really selling. The Armada Megatron was another lingerer here. And I've never SEEN Ultra Magnus. Located in Hickory, NC, for reference. --Khajidha (talk) 17:21, 11 September 2016 (EDT)

Gonna go ahead and say that yeah, Skywarp is a damnable plague. It's often the only Leader-class toy on the shelf throughout Hampton Roads. Starscream has barely had the chance to show up just about anywhere. We're fairly well into Titans Return now and I'm waiting for Skywarp to clear out so that we can start getting some new stuff. I've checked all the way from Newport News down to Chesapeake, at every Toys-R-Us, Walmart, and Target I can find. He's EVERYWHERE. It's like the weird early episodes of the original cartoon when all the background Cons were just clones of the main 3. --King Starscream (talk) 16:33, 14 October 2016 (EDT)

Titans Return

Is anyone else having the same horde of Sentinel Primes clogging up their retailers? He's practically the ONLY Voyager out right now besides the occasional left over Menasor. It seems like every case sells 3 Galvatrons and 1 Sentinel, and now no one has room for anything new. --King Starscream (talk) 16:35, 14 October 2016 (EDT)

This page is not a real-time, up-to-the-minute status report, especially on a line that has only gotten its second wave out at retail. Dial it back. --M Sipher (talk) 14:32, 15 October 2016 (EDT)

Not Titans Return, but here in the UK it's striking how the CW runs of Armada Megatron and Ultra Magnus can still be found, a year after they were first released (especially given how awesome Mags is!). But the winners here are Generations Frenzy and Ratbat, still sitting on pegs 4 years after release. I'd almost take pity on them and buy them, but (a) I already did, and (b) there's three or four packs at my local TRU.James Casey (talk) 05:59, 5 November 2016 (EDT)

Meanwhile, many Walgreens exclusive Brainstorms had flooded to some of my country's shopping malls' shelves. FigureGunplaFan (talk) 10:21, 22 February 2017 (EST)

Year of the Monkey Optimus

Maybe this is just a Canadian thing, but many of my local TRU's seem to have this toy in vast quantities - I'm talking, like, eight or nine boxes, heavily marked down, gathering dust at the bottom of the shelf beneath Titans Return and Last Knight stuff. Has anyone else in other countries experienced this? Grum (talk) 18:48, 12 July 2017 (EDT)

I don't think I ever saw him in the U.S. --MistaTee (talk) 23:22, 12 July 2017 (EDT)

Brawns and Clobber, shelfwarmer supreme

If there is one that I would call a shelfwarmer it would be Titans Return Brawn, with Clobber close behind. A small local store here has roughly 7 Brawns and 4 Clobbers... Since early 2017. It's no better in a larger retailer some towns away which ALSO has a massive amount of Brawns and Clobbers relaxing side by side. Even in stores in Germany, whenever there is a TF section, you can guarantee there is just an army of them staring right at you. Would that be enough to warrant their own inclusion on this page? Shockblaster's Hideout (talk) 04:21, 3 May 2019 (EDT)

Time for a update regarding modern shelfwarmers

I think it's about time this page gets updated to reflect the fact that Wave 1 of Legacy was overordered and has been shelf-warming BAD across the US. It's the same with Velocitron Deluxe Wave 1 to an extent. Seemingly only the wave 1 voyagers and Laser Prime were immune to the glut caused by the Wave 1 deluxes. I'd say we should also mention TR Blurr and Scourge somewhere as well, I just simply don't feel comfortable with changing this page at my level of experience editing. Paladin Denn (talk) 22:37, 12 March 2023 (EDT)

What is NOT a shelfwarmer - should be specified.

So I remember a few days ago cyberlink told me to cool it with me labelling SS junkheap and Legacy Evo Medix a shelfwarmer. Maybe we should put a footnote or section somewhere here so people don't make the same mistake as I did.Poliwag06 (talk) 02:09, 7 October 2023 (EDT)

Page overhaul

User:M Sipher/Sandbox:ShelfwarmerRevamp
Jotted some notes here. Let's talk overhauling. --M Sipher (talk) 21:23, 6 February 2025 (EST)