Talk:Simon Furman

Our anonymous editor has added an odd comment here about Furman "denouncing" cartoon stories as non-real. This... seems like a weird thing to write. Has Furman actually done this? (And incidentally, editor at IP 206.162.192.39, if you're going to make more than a few edits, it's nice to create an account so we can associate an identity with your work. It's a lot easier to remember a nick than an IP address.) --Steve-o 04:35, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I believe he's referencing the Ultimate Guide's entry on the Dinobots, where he says the cartoon origin was bogus and the comic origin was the true story. I can't think of any other occurrences, so I don't think we can really generalize that as a over-arching disposition. --ItsWalky 04:39, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

This may be a reference to the fact that the UK letters page answerers (written largely if not entirely by Simon) frequently explained the difference between the comic and cartoon by saying that the cartoon was a fictionalized version of the "real" events happening in the comic, but that they often got things wrong. -LV 05:41, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Wasn't there also something in the comic version of "Big Broadcast of 2006," where it's kinda implied that the events of the cartoon are too ridiculous to be true and have just been made up by Wreck-Gar? That was how it was described in "Prime Targets," anyway. --Thylacine 2000 18:58, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

That bit in Prime Targets was pretty much just fanon. At the end of the comic adaptation of Big Broadcast we learn that the entire event was just a bizarre dream of Wreck-Gar's, but the author of Prime Targets decided to apply that to the entire G1 cartoon. It's a fun fan theory, sure, but nothing bordering official. --DrSpengler 19:21, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

If anything, it's probably about the way the Dinobots two origns are phrased in the Ultimate Guide. (The wording escapes me, but I think it gave preference to the comic...) -Derik 02:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

While this would have made more relevance a week or more ago, I just watched Furman's interview on the Madman BW Season 3 DVD. When they asked him about being on the record about not liking the G1 cartoon, he kind of refuted this notion, stating that he loved it, and explained that back in the 80s, looking through the eyes of a 20-something writer he thought the show was (obviously) pitched a little young, stories were simplistic and had huge logic flaws, but conceded that he saw them from a different perspective than the generation that grew up watching the cartoon and buying the toys as kids. In hindsight he went back and watched the cartoon and now enjoys it (particularly Season 2). When he was writing the Marvel comic he was adverse to the ones that dealt with their back stories because they flew in the face of his own back stories, and also caused him to worry about if he was doing it wrong. But now he watches it in a liberated sort of way and admires that they were building upon their own mythos in the tv series. --FFN 19:42, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Neat, FFN. I think it would be cool to say something about that in his article, properly cited to the Madman DVDs of course. --Steve-o 20:37, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Funily enough, he says he thought the G1 Animated movie was fantastic and one of his stated reasons was that 'characters died' :D --FFN 03:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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hello my name is Terrance Bonilla and I go to SVMS email is bonilla.terrance@yahoo.com i wanted to know the illustrator, publisher and copyright thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.155.232.183 (talk • contribs).

The illustrator, publisher, and copyright of what? JW 15:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

"Death"?

It's mentioned elsewhere on the wiki, there's an interview with Furman in an old issue of Strip where he's "killed" by Death's Head at the end. It would be entirely within our sitewide sense of humor to put false birth/death dates at the top of the article, footnoted out to explain the joke. I just don't know when the interview in question was published, or I'd do it myself. Hooper_X 09:52, 31 August 2009 (EDT)

Issue 81

Hey, IDW announced that they'll be continuing Simon's Marvel Comics run starting with Issue 81. Where should we put that in this article, and when the stories are actually published, should they be given a page separate from the other Marvel stories? Dinoshot 19:32, 28 September 2011 (EDT)

Arcee note

While I don't want to get into a huge argument over this, the note about Arcee and female Transformers as it stands is a bit one-sided and in places misrepresents what actually happened. For example, the punchline of "Prime's Rib" is that Arcee single-handedly rescues Optimus Prime and defeats the Decepticons, proving that she's every bit as good as a "regular" Autobot, if not better and while "Space Pirates" is hardly her finest hour, in "Time Wars" and the alternate future stories that follow it there's nothing disparaging about Furman's portrayal of her. She doesn't show up in RG1 (except in the "movie" future) because she doesn't exist in the US Marvel Comics continuity. Oh, and Furman wasn't responding to Scott's assertion that "Arcee's origin could be seen as offensive to transgender people" (which in my mind is a fairly non-controversial observation) but her follow-up post where she said that "Spotlight: Arcee" was problematic for all women everywhere, which is a totally different point. Personally I'd rather not drag all this back up on the wiki at all, but if we have to include it can we at least make sure it's accurate? --Emvee (talk) 05:52, 28 April 2014 (EDT)