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Merging with Thirteenth Prime
[edit]In light of merging other variants of the Thirteen back together, like Maccadam and Alchemist or the multiple Trions, I'm not sure what makes this article different that justifies a standalone article. Plus there's not much content and the Thirteenth is never mentioned in a non-Arisen context in IDW05 anyway, nor in the RPG, so it'd be an incredibly painless merge. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 19:27, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
- I think this makes sense. --Broadside (talk) 19:33, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
- To go along with this, I spoke with Aaron Archer about the Thirteenth Prime when I was at BotCon this year, about the idea of making the 13th Prime be Optimus and how unpopular that decision ultimately was. He told me that that actually wasn't originally supposed to be the case. The original plan was to deliberately lean into the mystery and ambiguity of the 13th's identity and make him just some legendary figure destined to appear when the time is right according to an ancient prophecy that may or may never come true. The decision to make Optimus Prime the reincarnation of this nameless figure came much later, and it was one of those things that just happened to come about when there's a bunch of cooks all working in the same kitchen. What all this means is that the Arisen ended up being conceptually closer to the original plan for the Thirteenth Prime despite everything else IDW1 did with the other Twelve. --Sabrblade (talk) 19:36, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
- Also "yes" for a merge. Locoman (talk) 19:49, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
- Big yes on the merge. No contest from me. OptiMay Primal (talk) 16:59, 18 June 2025 (PST)
- This strikes me as reasonable, particularly with Sabrblade's juicy new info about 13's conceptual history. --AzimuthAcolyte (talk) 20:01, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
- Sounds good to me. Daytonjhammon (talk) 20:04, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
- This strikes me as reasonable, particularly with Sabrblade's juicy new info about 13's conceptual history. --AzimuthAcolyte (talk) 20:01, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
- Big yes on the merge. No contest from me. OptiMay Primal (talk) 16:59, 18 June 2025 (PST)
- Also "yes" for a merge. Locoman (talk) 19:49, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
- To go along with this, I spoke with Aaron Archer about the Thirteenth Prime when I was at BotCon this year, about the idea of making the 13th Prime be Optimus and how unpopular that decision ultimately was. He told me that that actually wasn't originally supposed to be the case. The original plan was to deliberately lean into the mystery and ambiguity of the 13th's identity and make him just some legendary figure destined to appear when the time is right according to an ancient prophecy that may or may never come true. The decision to make Optimus Prime the reincarnation of this nameless figure came much later, and it was one of those things that just happened to come about when there's a bunch of cooks all working in the same kitchen. What all this means is that the Arisen ended up being conceptually closer to the original plan for the Thirteenth Prime despite everything else IDW1 did with the other Twelve. --Sabrblade (talk) 19:36, 18 June 2025 (EDT)