Talk:Transformers: Prime (franchise)

Hasbro's names for the continuity

For what it's worth, when Hasbro tried to put a name to the continuity they called it "Cybertron/Exodus continuity" and the "new aligned continuity".[1] The first is too clunky. "Aligned continuity" isn't too bad. - Starfield 21:54, 26 July 2010 (EDT)

Prime vs WFC

Are these the same franchise or 2 franchises in the same continuity family? If they are the same, shouldn't they have the same nav-box? --Khajidha 11:36, 26 September 2010 (EDT)

Prime, WfC/Exodus still linked?

Hasbro hasn't made any mentions of links to WfC/Exodus in regards to Prime beyond the initial stuff we heard of and WfC Bumblebee's figure bio that says he's now mute. Has Hasbro gone back on that link anywhere?--MCRG 01:10, 10 October 2010 (EDT)

No. --ItsWalky 01:26, 10 October 2010 (EDT)

Continuity family, franchises etc.

Here's my take on how to organize all this into different pages:

• Modern continuity family

This would contain links to two franchises: War for Cybertron and Prime. It would also be our primary repository for explanations/descriptions of Hasbro's intentions re: continuity, etc.

• • War for Cybertron (franchise)

This would contain links to everything WfC-branded (the game, the toys, the comic, and Exodus). It would also have a brief summation of the continuity wackiness, with a focus on WfC.

• • Prime (franchise)

This would contain links to everything Prime-branded (the show, comics, and toys). It would also have a brief summation of the continuity wackiness, with a focus on Prime.

How does that sound? I'm not married to the "Modern continuity family" name; I could see using one of Starfield's suggestions instead. On the other hand, if Aaron Archer is right and this is going to be the wellspring of TF fiction for the next ten years, maybe "Modern" isn't a bad choice after all. (At the very least, we won't have to worry about it being out-of-date for a loooooong time.)

- Jackpot 19:37, 14 February 2011 (EST)

I'm interested in how the wiki finally sorts this out. The Exodus novel isn't really part of the War for Cybertron franchise. The book and game were made independently. But the comic is part of the War for Cybertron franchise because it says so on the front—even though the comic is based on the novel. With the comic book and online timeline, Hasbro has pretty much retconned "War for Cybertron" as being the Exodus storyline. In a way, the video game is part of the WfC franchise, but not the WfC continuity. Besides, the video game is totally G1. - Starfield 21:00, 14 February 2011 (EST)

I'm just going by simple branding, which is what franchises ultimately are. From that perspective, there's no debate: Exodus really IS part of the WfC franchise because it's right there on the cover. You're right that the continuity connections are tangled and strange, and we should definitely point that stuff out where appropriate. But in terms of basic franchise-page separation, I think the name on the box/cover should be our starting point, as it always has been. - Jackpot 21:12, 14 February 2011 (EST)

Oh yea. I just read that as part of a sentence. - Starfield 21:14, 14 February 2011 (EST)

It is a little ambiguous in that way, I'll admit. But it was clearly no accident, and the only other alternative, "Prime", doesn't appear anywhere on it, so there we are. By the way, looking back over your earlier post at the very top of this page, I think I might like "New Aligned continuity family" better than "Modern continuity family". "New Aligned" really IS what it is: Hasbro has taken bits and pieces of everything that's come before and realigned them into a new foundation. Turning a Hasbro rep's offhand phrase into a proper name is a little "Unicron's spawn"-ish, but for lack of a better option, I can dig it. - Jackpot 21:22, 14 February 2011 (EST)

War for Cybertron is technically a franchise article as each game has its own article. Just curious then, would you move Optimus Prime (Prime) to "Optimus Prime (WFC)" because that's when he first appeared? And I do believe we will have an article for continuity family, but if I may, I'd propose the term "Bible continuity family" simply because Hall of Fame, the WFC games and book, and cartoon are using this 400-page Hasbro production bible. Afterall, the novel is named after the second book of the Pentateuch. ;) Alientraveller 14:32, 15 February 2011 (EST)

I'd had that thought about Transformers: War for Cybertron too. I haven't examined that collection of pages thoroughly yet, but it seems like they wouldn't require too much alteration... there's even a franchise-nav already set up.

As for "Optimus Prime (WFC)", yes, that would be the logical conclusion. But I'm not personally very invested in making that happen, especially if people prefer the uniformity of "(Prime)".

And as for "Bible continuity family", I see where you're going with it, but I think the word has too much real-world baggage. I figured we would mention the new story-bible prominently, though, since you're right that it seems to be the center of all of Hasbro's TF endeavors these days.

- Jackpot 21:54, 18 February 2011 (EST)

Sorry I didn't see your response earlier (much much earlier, I was out of London for a couple of days as well). I'd like others' opinions then on moving some characters to (WFC) for consistency's sake with other articles, I'm all for it, otherwise we'll have to move Optimus Prime (Armada) and Optimus Prime (Movie) to (UT) and (LV). I'm willing to recategorise everything as I've written the bulk of the Bibleverse articles after reading Exodus and keeping track of Prime. Alientraveller 06:56, 25 February 2011 (EST)

For what it's worth, here's the discussion where "(Prime)" was decided upon. At the time, I even voted for it. But we hadn't really digested all the new stuff or seen how secondary material would be released over time. I think we can say that circumstances have changed, and it's worth reevaluating. - Jackpot 21:25, 25 February 2011 (EST)

Beast Hunters

Ok, not sure where this should go, but is Beast Hunters eventually going to get its own page. -- spyder^{Use this!} 20:08, 17 October 2012 (EDT)

Colon in the title?

Okay, so, is there any particular reason we use "Transformers: Prime" over "Transformers Prime"? I've seen both used in official material... Jalaguy 12:00, 27 September 2013 (EDT)

By convention, when you have a title that is split across two lines and is not a continuous phrase the second line is a subtitle and is separated by a colon when fully written out. For example, the original Star Wars logo had the two words one above the other, but they formed a continuous phrase. Therefor, no colon. The Star Trek: The Next Generation logo has the continuous phrase "Star Trek" printed on two lines and the subtitle "The Next Generation" printed on a third. There is thus a colon between Trek and The but not between Star and Trek. --Khajidha 14:26, 27 September 2013 (EDT)

Well yeah, but how do we decide what's a continuous phrase? What makes Transformers Animated one phrase but Transformers: Prime two? I mean, I suppose you could say that it's a phrase describing Transformers that are animated, but that seems kinda weird... Jalaguy 18:59, 27 September 2013 (EDT)

I've always thought that Animated should have a colon for just this reason. --Khajidha 21:15, 27 September 2013 (EDT)

I always wondered why it didn't. Was there an old discussion that cemented the lack of a colon in its title? --Sabrblade 21:42, 27 September 2013 (EDT)

First couple of discussion on Talk:Transformers Animated (franchise). The press materials for the show left the colon out. I think they did that for Transformers Prime too, didn't they? --abates 22:52, 27 September 2013 (EDT)