Talk:Transformers: Prime (cartoon)

Disambig

Should this page be disambiguated from the Transformers 2010 (franchise) page? Khajidha 17:28, 9 December 2009 (EST)

I think so, yes. --abates 20:21, 10 December 2009 (EST)

Character list

Unicron was voiced by John Noble per the character listing on 1 Shall Rise, pt 1.

Forgive me for being overly cautious, but since it's been stated that Michael Bell has auditioned for the roles of Ratchet and Fowler, can we begin a preliminary character list? - Zadok Rox 09:38, 14 December 2009 (EST)

I'm okay with that as long as we are foolishly optimistic enough to leave Optimus Prime and Megatron OFF the character list until confirmed. -Derik 10:46, 14 December 2009 (EST)

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!--Jimsorenson 11:52, 14 December 2009 (EST)

EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT WILL BE FOR NAUGHT, THE VERY CONCEPT FILLS MY HEART WITH GLADNESS. -Derik 12:03, 14 December 2009 (EST)

Maybe, for the same reason, the character list should just be "characters" and not presume to put them in "Autobots", "Decepticons", and "Humans". Who knows? There could be Maximals! - Starfield 12:10, 14 December 2009 (EST)

Or Unicron's Heralds, for that matter! ---Blackout- 12:46, 14 December 2009 (EST)

Malignus, Mutants, Throttlebots, Spacebots, Spacecons... -Derik 16:26, 14 December 2009 (EST)

Unicron, would I love a set of stories focussing mainly on the Chaos Bringer's faction. Geewunling 16:49, 14 December 2009 (EST)

I'm tempted to say that we shouldn't include Bumblebee on the list just yet because we don't know 100% that the yellow robot on the Hub logo is Bumblebee, but I seriously doubt that anybody would toy around (no pun intended) with the general looks of a popular Transformers character (though that would be an awesome twist). - Zadok Rox 15:29, 31 March 2010 (EDT)

Titling

Shouldn't it be "Prime (cartoon)", considering our stupid rule of removing "Transformers" from article titles? —Interrobang 02:01, 6 February 2010 (EST)

Nope!--Rosicrucian ^Talk 02:04, 6 February 2010 (EST)

I thought the reason we went with "Transformers Animated" is because there was no colon, and therefore "Animated" wasn't a subtitle? --KilMichaelMcC 02:08, 6 February 2010 (EST)

I honestly don't recall there being a colon in just about any TF title. --M Sipher 02:09, 6 February 2010 (EST)

We make exceptions for phrases. This isn't one. I mean, we even had a big ado over moving the ROTF article to be without the "Transformers". —Interrobang 02:13, 6 February 2010 (EST)

"Transformers Animated" is much a exception, so it go with the full name. If the title is "Transformers: Prime" when it start airing, I will vote for the "Prime (cartoon)". --^TALK04:09, 6 February 2010 (EST)

Hub picture

Now that we got the logo for 'Transformers: Prime', should we get rid of the Hub logo? I say we do, but I wouldn't object to holding on to it until we get an image solely of Bumblebee. - Zadok Rox 07:53, 3 May 2010 (EDT)

There's room, so we might as well keep it for now. --abates 08:00, 3 May 2010 (EDT)

Can we get this article locked if it hasn't been already?

I expect a number of (mostly anonymous) editors may attempt to follow a relatively new TFW2005.com staffer's lead and paste in an unverified, uncited cast list from Wikipedia into this article. Thanks. --FFN 14:12, 7 May 2010 (EDT)

I personally disagree with locking this article. The show should be debuting within the next six months or so, therefore I imagine Hasbro will give us some tidbits of information (not to mention actors' websites, like Jeffrey Combs). However, if this article does get locked until a later date, I won't make a big deal out of it. - Zadok Rox 23:36, 7 May 2010 (EDT)

It's only blocked against editing by unregistered users. If an unregistered user has a legit piece of info to be added, they can always use the talk page to bring it up. --abates 23:45, 7 May 2010 (EDT)

Or register and then add it directly. (They should still provide citations/links for proof if need be, of course.)--Apcog 05:12, 8 May 2010 (EDT)

Continuity

Might just be me, but shouldn't we place this under "War For Cybertron" continuity or something? Apparantly, it follows the game (or at least the prequel comic, according to the page itself.

-ThiAthEhn

I'm still not clear on where Magnus Maximus got that from, since it's uncited. We really need to wait and see before we make a decision. Plus if WFC and Prime are in the same continuity, an argument could be made to place WFC in the Prime continuity rather than the other way around.--abates 05:14, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

Ask Walky. He assured me that the link between WfC and Prime has been confirmed, but just didn't mention where or when. That's why I added the {{fact{{#if:||{{{2}}}|}}}} tag, so that he or someone else could cite it. - Magnus Maximus 05:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

Aha! I see! --abates 06:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

So isn't the "link" with WfC just speculation from someone working at TFWiki? There's no citation, and should not be under "CONFIRMED news." --75.28.55.135 21:37, 9 June 2010 (EDT)

I believe Walky said it came directly from the Hasbro reps at toy fair. If so that's confirmed enough for me. And if it turns out to be wrong... eh, we'll know for sure in two weeks at Botcon anyway. That's soon enough to just wait and deal with it then. --ZacWilliam 22:31, 9 June 2010 (EDT)

Chartacter list

If It's not Bumblebee, who CAN it be?TOM 11:08, 16 May 2010 (EDT)

Yellow Cliffjumper, Bumper, Hot Shot, Armada Sparkplug... it's likely that it's Bumblebee, but there are other people that look like him. --NCZ 11:21, 16 May 2010 (EDT)

Or a brand new character. I'm very certain that it is Bumblebee, but the producers may blow our minds and say, "Hey, you know your buddy, Bumblebee? Well, he's actually (place bad guy name here) in disguise. Remember Longarm Prime in Transformers Animated? Btw, TOM, to add a comment to a topic, just hit the edit button on top of the page and place your comment below the last comment. You can use colons in front of your statement to space it from the margin. You're learning the ropes and I'm glad you're making an honest effort to benefit this wiki, so don't give up. - Zadok Rox 13:28, 16 May 2010 (EDT)

New continuity family!

Hey, remember when I said WFC/Prime is probably Primax? Well, I lied! After BotCon's flurry of information I think it's going to have to be its own thing. Not only because, well, it deserves to be, but because it will make our lives a lot easier and our pages a lot clearer. Back when the movie came out, we also considered making THAT G1, but declined when we realized the sheer amount of material and focus would make it impractical. The same here. Also, comments from Aaron Archer put the new continuity in perspective.

He ALSO doesn't like calling it "Prime," since that's not what he wants to call it, but it's all we got at the moment. He doesn't have a name for this new continuity (family), but is trying to think of one eventually. So, uh, in the meantime, I think we're stuck with calling it "Prime." Dem's the breaks until we get a time machine and can ask 2012 Aaron Archer or whatever. --ItsWalky 11:01, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, EVERYTHING was already pointing in the way of a new continuity family, so I'm glad the wiki now has the green light to separate this stuff. Not that that will spare me from redoing certain location articles, but it's at least a lot easier. Geewunling 11:58, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

P.S., do Demolishor (WFC) and Slipstream (WFC) have to be moved now? Geewunling 11:59, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

Optimus Prime (Prime)? Reminds me of Cyclonus (Armada). Anyway, looks like we're going to have to fix a lot of links and move a fair bit of information related to the War for Cybertron pages. --NCZ 12:12, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

I concur completely. This seems very much like a new continuity, albeit with very strong G1 and Movie influences, though the Unicron Trilogy and Animated get some characters and ideas dropped in as well.--Jimsorenson 12:22, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

As I said on Transformers: War for Cybertron ":I'm beginning to wonder if the "G1 continuity family" is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't "terribly G1y" in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes." --Khajidha 12:42, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

While Archer may not like calling it "Prime," that would seem to be the parenthetical if we follow the same protocol we did for the Unicron Trilogy. Franchise of origin and all. Alternately, we could tag all of them (WFC) if they first appeared in that game, but that doesn't seem quite right.--Rosicrucian ^Talk 12:46, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

Then we'd wind up with another Shattered Glass/Timelines situation where it really made no sense why some were tagged one way and some another (at least not to the more casual fan). --Khajidha 12:50, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

Exodus had the same street-date as WFC, didn't it? I know we're having this discussion simultaneously on Allspark, which... probably isn't a good idea.... but I suggested "EWP" as a suffix until something better comes along. --Thylacine 2000 13:02, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

I would suggest using either "Prime", "WFC" or "Exodus" (only one of them though!) until something clearer comes along. "EWP" just seems needlessly confusing. --Khajidha 13:12, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

I tend to think (Prime) is the best suffix we'll get, since we normally use franchise and Prime seems like the most likely candidate to be the franchise name. Exodus and WFC are definitely not franchises, but Prime might be. Of course, one wonders what will happen if Hasbro decides to completely move away from the concept of franchises... --Jimsorenson 13:14, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

According to the TFormers.com BotCon report, Aaron Archer said Hasbro wasn't planning on doing TF:Prime toys. And, for that matter, we know there are WFC toys, so at the moment WFC actually looks more franchisey. But that having been said, I still vote for "(Prime)" across the board because that's almost guaranteed to be the most prominent, central, and dominant element of this continuity. - Jackpot 13:43, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

Aaron Archer said he "wasn't there to talk about toys," but the fiction/show/cartoon. I think this statement was being misconstrued. --ItsWalky 13:44, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

Ah, thanks for clarifying. That did seem like an odd decision on Hasbro's part. - Jackpot 13:48, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

Aaron's wording was poorly-chosen. He really did say something like "right now there isn't a toyline," and of course he could only have meant it as a figure of speech to cover what he was willing to talk about during that 20 minutes and not that there actually isn't a toyline. It's impossible that there wouldn't be a toyline. You don't make a CGI toy commercial without them. --Thy, not logged in.

Or it could have meant that the details weren't ready for a public reveal or that the figures would simply be released as part of the unsubtitled "Transformers" line. Lots of ambiguity. --Khajidha 14:15, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the toys just ended up in the general Transformers line, which would make TF:Prime about exactly as franchisey as WFC. Still, like I said above, even if there WEREN'T any toys I would still lean towards "(Prime)" for its likely real-world dominance. - Jackpot 14:33, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

"Prime" will be good. --TX55^TALK 13:54, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

Has anybody tried to mock up a Prime (franchise) page that could explain how the Prime TV show, WFC videogame and Exodus novel are related and give a comparison/contrast to other franchises? I think I've got an idea what's going on, but I'd like to see a coherent write up from someone who has seen the actual materials. --Khajidha 15:01, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

I don't know if the "Prime (franchise)" page would be the best place for that. That would be for the cartoon stuff and related toyline. But we need a continuity page, like Movie continuity. Based on the September Q&A we could call it the "modern continuity". That's what Hasbro called it. - Starfield 18:19, 1 November 2010 (EDT)

Because it's "modern" as in HAPPENING NOW, not as if it was a proper noun! Calling it "Modern" would be astoundingly dumb. --M Sipher 23:21, 1 November 2010 (EDT)

Are you calling Hasbro dumb? That's what they called it. For better or worse "modern" is sometimes used like that. "Modern architecture" doesn't mean the style of architecture right now. I have a "modern continuity" page ready. I almost pressed "save page" but I checked the recent changes and found this. We need a continuity page anyway. I think I will hit save before I go to bed. It can be moved. - Starfield 23:47, 1 November 2010 (EDT)

Do you understand the difference between lower and upper case letters? --ItsWalky 23:54, 1 November 2010 (EDT)

Tell you what, we'll resume this conversation when you learn what "context" means. And your "Modern (franchise)" page will be deleted. --M Sipher 23:56, 1 November 2010 (EDT)

Not "modern (franchise)". "Modern continuity", as in Category:Continuities. I din't think it was a proper noun anymore than movie continuity is. You can delete it, I suppose. Or, if it is a good page, you could rename it whatever you want. Like "War for Cybertron/Exodus/Prime continuity". - Starfield 00:07, 2 November 2010 (EDT)

I thought it was a good page. Probably did need to be moved to a better name. But then it was deleted. Um, oh well? --KilMichaelMcC 00:58, 2 November 2010 (EDT)

I saved it as a text file. I could reload it under a different name if anyone wants. Just let me know what name. - Starfield 11:14, 2 November 2010 (EDT)

Timeline

Transformers.com timeline: [1] It's basically the story from Exodus with Sentinel Prime exchanged for Zeta Prime, with screenshots from the game. --ItsWalky 18:10, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

Sue Blu gone?

I saw news notes from Comicon saying something about Susan Blu no longer working on the show. Does anyone know if she's gone completely or just stopped working one one part of the show. --ZacWilliam 07:31, 24 July 2010 (EDT)

Yeah I updated that awhile ago, forgot to mention it here. --FFN 18:35, 6 August 2010 (EDT)

A review by Variety (worry not; no spoilers) gives quite a few bits of information on credits, and it mentions Sue Blu as the voice director. So, what? Did the reviewer make a mistake or did she come back? I'd say we should just wait until the show airs, but I thought I might as well bring it up. --NCZ 23:33, 24 November 2010 (EST)

She's credited as voice director for the first two episodes. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible 07:13, 29 November 2010 (EST)

She's infact credited for the first five episodes. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible 02:37, 1 January 2011 (EST)

David Hartman as both the supervising director and art director

taken from his DAblog: http://sideshowmonkey.deviantart.com/journal/33585161 not sure if it's "news," but it is more confirmed staff. - —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.208.61.72 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}. 01:56, 2 August 2010

Move?

The Hub's press release render the title without a colon [2][3], should we move all Prime-related articles or are we happy just writing it our way? Alientraveller 13:01, 19 August 2010 (EDT)

Air date

Isn't a bit premature to announce that it'll air on this year's Black Friday? I mean, true, the TV listing there says so, but they are subject to change. --Lonegamer78 04:35, 22 October 2010 (EDT)

Not to fear. I changed it from "will air" to "is scheduled to air". - Zadok Rox 09:53, 22 October 2010 (EDT)

Wrong!

This page has incorrect information!! This takes place in the movie universe for 1. 2, It only has five episodes for the whole series as it is a MINI series. It has nothing even close to related to the War for Cybertron game. Sadly, I can't fix this because the page is LOCKED. :( Jman98 05:16, 13 November 2010 (EST)

No, you're the one who is incorrect. ---Blackout- 05:17, 13 November 2010 (EST)

Jman, atleast wait until you see the show first before making these presumptions. While you wait, read the 'Exodus' book. - Zadok Rox 09:55, 13 November 2010 (EST)

You are exactly the reason this page is locked. --ItsWalky 10:51, 13 November 2010 (EST)

Don't believe, go to this link ---> [4] --Jman98 14:44, 13 November 2010 (EST)

Yeah, we've been. Try again. --ItsWalky 15:05, 13 November 2010 (EST)

Okay, I just read the Exodus book, sorry for causing trouble. Now I know that WFC and PRIME are linked. --Jman98 12:09, 14 November 2010 (EST)

Protecting

Since Seibertron has posted details of the first two episodes, should we protect this page against anon editing to minimise spoilers? --abates 20:59, 22 November 2010 (EST)

It appears to already be protected. --NCZ 21:12, 22 November 2010 (EST)

A quick spate of protecting individual character articles will also not go amiss. I could really go for not having this blown for me before Friday. - Chris McFeely 21:19, 22 November 2010 (EST)

I've protected the episode titles as well, because creating a new page means the text shows up in Recent Changes. --abates 21:31, 22 November 2010 (EST)

Episode 1 Credits

Have fun.

01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18

And, yes, these were obtained on the up-and-up. --Monzo 18:35, 25 November 2010 (EST)

Do you have the writer/director credit for the episode (would presumably have been displayed at the start) --abates 18:59, 25 November 2010 (EST)

Promo Vehicle images

Can these be dropped from articles and replaced with screenshots? User:Eire 2 Dec 12.35 (GMT)

Help! Paradox!

Could someone please explain to me how War For Cybertron fits in the Prime Universe. I have a whole list of paradoxs:

Megatron:In WFC, he was a tank, while in Prime, he was a jet. In WFC, Megatron new how to control dark energon, and used it often, but in Prime, he did not fuse it with his spark until he arrived on Earth.
Starscream: First, his color scheme is different, in WFC, he is G1 like, but in Prime, he is movie like. Also, in The Darkness Rising Part 2, Starscream acted as if he hadn't came in contact with Dark Energon, but heard about it. However, the WFC Starscream knew exactly what Dark Energon does, and wants to learn how to weild it.
Soundwave: Soundwave in WFC is like G1, with Laserbeak, Rumble, Frenzy, however in Prime, he is quiet, doesn' talk much,

(and even then, he just repeats recordings of what others have said) and only has 1 drone (Ratbat, i beleive his name is now.

Ratchet:Rachet in WFC new what Drak Energon was, for it was alover Cybertron and Optimus pointed it out. In Prime, though, he says Dark Energon is so rare, its existence is doughted.
Bumblebee:In WFC, he can talk and has a mouth, but in prime, he cannot talk. (Similar to his movie version.)
Cliffjumper: In WFC, heis basicallya retool of Bumblebee, but in Prime, he is his own mold.
Arcee: In WFC, she is like er G1 counterpart (and is a pink car), but the prime version is more like the movie version, and somewhat of a ninja. (And is a blue motercycle.)
Dark Energon: In WFC, it was said it corrupts and destroys. But in Prime, it has the power to revive the dead. It is all over cybertron in WFC, and heck, even the Core of Cybertron is corrupted with it. But in Prime, it is apperently "so rare", how was it found on cybertron? Better yet in WFC, why was it being manufactured? (WARNING!!! SPOLIER ALERT!!! SPOLIERS UP AHEAD!!! STOP READING IF YOU DON'T LIKE SPOILERS!!!! WARNING!!!) and Prime, why is Megaton trying to ressurct ever dead cybertronian on Cybertron? Couldn't he have just done that in WFC?

Some clarification would be great. Also, I know the whole "Scanning alt mode" thing could change the way they look, but in the Prime comic,they still look the same in Cybertrnian form. Please help clarify some things.LordDalek 10:02, 3 December 2010 (EST)

Could someone please explain to me how War For Cybertron fits in the Prime Universe. It doesn't. They're part of the same continuity family, but not one singular continuous universe. --KilMichaelMcC 10:39, 3 December 2010 (EST)

I want someone to please explain to me how someone being a different altmode in the past is a paradox. --ItsWalky 10:42, 3 December 2010 (EST)

No need to get rude ItsWalky. I was just saying, what reason did he have for changing his form. You don't have to be rude about it. As for you KilMichaelMcC, thank you, I must have confused the two. Sorry.LordDalek 16:43, 3 December 2010 (EST)

We don't need a reason. Characters changing their altmode is not some strange new thing that's unique to Megatron (Prime). G1 Megs went from gun to cannon to nothing to tank, back to gun, sometimes a car... UT Megs went from tank to spaceship to dragster/jet triple changer to... dinosaur. And Movie Megs has been both a tank and a jet. And all this is beside the point that we have been handed down an official reason in WFC Megatron's tech spec bio. Read the notes at the bottom of Megatron (Prime)'s article. --ItsWalky 20:50, 4 December 2010 (EST)

You forget that all those times he had a reason. G1 Megatron was changed due to Cobra Commander. UT Megatron changed because he was brought back to life a few time and movie Megs was ressurected using parts of other decepticons. And there is always the to sell toys reason. But I don't know If you read my comment but I tried to end this whole paradox conversation. Ok, I confused something big whoop. You don't have to act like a jerk saying "I want someone to tell me how having a different alt mode in the past is a paradox." Why don't you just ban me from this sight because I said that he had an new alt mode in the past. I was asking a question and you came in with your little ego trying to show off that you need to know that little statement. My god, I thought this site would be full of TF fans, not people trying to piss off other by deleting info they type because of one mistake instead of correcting it themselves, and other people like you trying to prove other users wrong. And why the heck can't we have pictures without a serious caption, we are preatty much the only wiki that does that so why do we? Because we rather get a laugh then information? By the pit.LordDalek 11:57, 6 December 2010 (EST)

As an impartial observer Walky didn't say anything rude at all, he mearly pointed out a flaw in your premise in fairly neutral language. You seem to be flipping out over nothing here. If you don't like it here(or are bothered exessively by the humorous captions that are here to stay) you don't need to stay. But stay or go, acting like a child over literally nothing isn't a great way to make friends.--76.28.76.206 12:15, 6 December 2010 (EST)

I am not trying to make friends here. I tried, but apparently I am someone who can't sign posts, tried to correct a statement about daleks and failed, and someone who steals information from sets and wikipedia. It is not the site I have problems with, it is the people.LordDalek 11:29, 7 December 2010 (EST)

As a person here who has been nice to you in the past, I think you are being overly sensitive here. You were given a reminder to sign posts, the Dalek thing was explained to you as being beyond the scope of this wiki and the "news" you posted from sets and wikipedia were removed because they were unconfirmed (thus against policy). Read the various help pages and follow the rules and you will be as welcome here as anyone. Continue your persecution complex, and people WILL get upset with you. And, again, Walky was simply pointing out your mistaken use of paradox. No conversation can occur if people aren't clear on terms. Your examples are not paradoxes, merely contradictions. --Khajidha 12:10, 7 December 2010 (EST)

Hate to be rude here, but a paradox does not just have to do with time. It can mean contradictions.166.109.0.45 11:28, 8 December 2010 (EST)

Only if those contradictions are in the same thing at the same time. Two separate things contradicting each other is not a paradox. --Khajidha 12:44, 8 December 2010 (EST)

You know what, you are right. I did over react, and I assumed Walky was trying to be rude here. Me apologies. I am sorry.LordDalek 11:30, 8 December 2010 (EST)

Animation studio question

So... It's Polygon Pictures that's animating, not Digitalscape? --Lonegamer78 04:44, 24 February 2011 (EST)

There's probably more than one animation team. Anyone want to check the credits for each episode? Alientraveller 15:02, 24 February 2011 (EST)

It's Polygon Pictures. Digitalscape is just a recruiting agent doing recruiting on behalf of Polygon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.109.211.26 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Thanks for the tip. I've rewatched "Darkness Rising" and noticed it is Polygon. Alientraveller 10:04, 7 March 2011 (EST)

Refer to the Main Autobot Cast as Team Prime?

The main Autbot Cast has been refered to as Team Prime a few times in the series.DinoFreakUSA 01:45, 27 February 2011 (EST)

Edit war brewing

Once again about a caption, this time regarding the cast promo image. So to Detour and TOM, the caption will be dated in October, so I propose leaving it until then, perhaps to a new caption about how odd it was there appeared to be six main Autobots... Alientraveller 18:24, 16 March 2011 (EDT)

There's a link to the toyline at the top of the page. I don't think the caption needs another one to explain it. --abates 18:50, 16 March 2011 (EDT)

Removing a note

Because this statement by Hasbro "Continuity. Present day, after "movie" type events. Autobots on earth,hiding." does not mean the same thing as this note by us "*Though part of the aligned continuity family with the War for Cybertron fiction, the show's immediate Earth-set backstory is meant to be "post-movie". Hasbro is saying that the backstory is movie-ish, not that it is the movie. Which is what our note said. --Khajidha 12:22, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

Divide & Conquer

The episode 13 listing, "Divide & Conquer", is actually a episode of G1 airing on the Sunday after the "Predatory" episode airs. It also hasn't been given a description, even though the "Sick Mind" episode has. It's clearly the G1 episode, and not one of TFP's episodes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.23.116.251 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Have you got a source for that? I've been keeping my eyes on the show listings, because I've suspected that what you'd said is the case, but I haven't found a listings source which goes up to Sunday the 17th. If you can point to some listings showing the G1 Divide and Conquer on that day, I'd be grateful! --abates 19:55, 3 April 2011 (EDT)

Not sure if it'll be proof enough, but MSN's listings are generally reliable (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series-episodes/transformers-prime/?sb=0&si=1&ipp=25). Divide and Conquer airing the day after Predatory first airs is a dead giveaway. It's still odd that it's part of the TFP episode guide, but it just wouldn't make sense to release two new episodes so close to each other like that.

Oddly enough, the Hub isn't playing the G1 episode that day either. I wonder where MSN got that listing from. --abates 19:34, 11 April 2011 (EDT)

"Divide and Conquer" showed up recorded on my Tivo under the "Transformers Prime" directory. It was the G1 episode. As if we needed further proof. --ItsWalky 20:36, 11 April 2011 (EDT)

Universal Cluster

I've been trying to think of a name for the universe cluster for this and Transformers: War for Cybertron. So far I've come up with Alignus, but that sounds retarded. Anyone have any ideas? [[Paddles 13:32, 28 May 2011 (EDT)]]

This is not the place for fan fiction. —Interrobang 13:37, 28 May 2011 (EDT)

Nevermind. Just forgot. [[Paddles 13:39, 28 May 2011 (EDT)]]

Dreadwing

OK- we know that Tony Todd is voicing Dreadwing. Do we know for sure whether or not Dreadwing is a Decepticon? I mean, I know it's likely, but should we assign him a faction before we know for sure? 67.242.198.238 10:21, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

Hey can we assign Dreadwing to the main Decepticon cast now that he's... apart of the main Decepticon cast? Or are we going to continue to treat him like Wheeljack and keep him offsides until he cameo's in at least 65% of future episode runtime? Arcee-Cola 8:44, 27 March 2012 (EDT)

Hey thanks for moving WheelJack and Dreadwing to the main cast! Arcee-Cola 6:07, 30 March 2012 (EDT)

Prowl and barricade and a unknown char?

so many people are talking today about prowl and barricade are coming into Transformers Prime. Picture's are released on this Website: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-prime-discussion/412158-weve-wanted-new-tfp-bots-cons.html (TFW2005) is this true or not? and who whould be the unknown character? whould like to know more :D —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Angelkiss112 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Go to a forum if you want to talk about this. —Interrobang 16:10, 3 June 2011 (EDT)

Laserbeak

Laserbeak should be added to every episode with Sundwave in it, 'cuz he's Soundwave's chest.--Primo 16:42, 11 June 2011 (EDT)

I think he should only be listed if he detaches from Soundwave - it's how we treat the Breastforce animals in Victory and they have basically the same deal. --abates 18:13, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

Season 2 Info

Comic Con has revealed some new information about season 2 of the show and beyond with the possibility of Dinobots as well as Combiners making their way onto the show. There is also a teaser showcasing a new villain with it being said that "He is ocming..." and it seems to be part o a prophecy as Prime is quoting the Covenant of Primus! Straxus 07:04, 22 July 2011 (EDT)

It would be so disappointing if he was just talking about Megatron. He IS prophesied in the Covenant, after all. -- Semysane 07:11, 22 July 2011 (EDT)

Since this is the Aligned continuity, a reference to Megatron could equally be The Fallen, couldnt it? Straxus 10:48, 22 July 2011 (EDT)

May I remind you this page is for discussing improvements to the article, not a general forum for chitchat. I can't access IGN articles due to a server 500 error, could someone else implement it? Alientraveller 11:18, 22 July 2011 (EDT)

I got a screenshot of the spooky dude in question http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/Semysane/TFPrimePreviewAwakened.jpg He looks kinda like... Alpha Trion, actually.

Alpha Trion does not have horns (they're not in the screenshot, but were seen a few nanokliks earlier). I'm thinking Unicron, as the TFPrime crew has said Unicron could appear. Either way, I think it's best to just let it be for now, until the episode airs. - ¡Usa El Queso! ^{Complain here} 19:50, 23 July 2011 (EDT)

Episode 21

I found this on IMDb. Season 1, Episode 21: One Bots, Two Bots, Red Bots, Blue Bots Original Air Date—30 July 2011 Sierra sneaked inside Bulkhead and found Jack in Autobot Headquarters. Should it be added? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.200.62.165 (talk • contribs){{#if:19:53, 30 July 2011 (EDT)| 19:53, 30 July 2011 (EDT)|}}.

Not until it's confirmed somewhere other than IMDB, which is not really known for its accuracy on upcoming stuff. --ItsWalky 19:57, 30 July 2011 (EDT)

There wasn't a new episode on the 30th. --abates 20:22, 30 July 2011 (EDT)

Additionally, given that this bit has shown up on multiple sites, all with the same spelling error and the odd past-tense synopsis, it can mostly be assumed it's fan-generated. --70.243.110.53 01:00, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

"Unlike most Transformers shows, episodes do not have an episode title card. Episode titles are from The Hub website."

Don't forget on the info for DirecTV's schedulale! (sic?) --66.82.162.10 16:12, 31 July 2011 (EDT)

They can be found in a lot of places. I don't think we need to list them all. --abates 16:45, 31 July 2011 (EDT)

New Prime ep on Teletoon.

Not a clue what its name is, but Teletoon's airing a never-before-seen episode. They'll be re-airing it at 4:30AM. If you know any Canuckians who can record and encode... --Detour 12:17, 7 August 2011 (EDT)

Detour, did you just issue a call for TFWiki users to engage in piracy? -Derik 12:44, 7 August 2011 (EDT)

Sorry, bad choice of words. Canuckians who can record (because it's on late) and watch later to fill out the article. --Detour 13:21, 7 August 2011 (EDT)

I expected that was the case, after all DVR's do encode while they record. -Derik 13:46, 7 August 2011 (EDT)

According to tvguide.ca, Teletoon is playing a new episode next week too. --abates 17:42, 7 August 2011 (EDT)

Pictures Pictures and Pictures.

I noticed that a lot of the character profiles seem to have stopped showing screen caps around after the last 4 episodes. You guys want me to get screen caps of all the characters? or just leave it?

Something of Note

Something I've noticed in the series is something fairly unusual: all of the Transformers with flight-capable alt. mode have, thus far, been shown to be incapable of flight in robot mode. Megatron and Starscream have both been shown to have to Transform before they become capable of flight, while Soundwave has yet to transform himself. This is fairly unusual in the Transformers franchise, is it not?--184.100.200.98 15:06, 14 October 2011 (EDT)

Soundwave has transformed. --ItsWalky 15:14, 14 October 2011 (EDT)

Alright, my mistake. But in the mean-time, have any flight-capable alt. mode Transformers shown flight capabilities in their robot mode? Because if not I'm certain that's a first for the Transformers franchise.--184.100.200.98 15:30, 14 October 2011 (EDT)

I think the movie already tackled that, for the most part. Blackout and Megatron never flew in robot modes, and Starscream has those jet boosters on his back that enabled him to stay aloft for a few seconds between jet transformations in the first movie. To my best recollection. --ItsWalky 15:42, 14 October 2011 (EDT)

Megatron flew in ROTF. Blackout was just plain destroyed.--184.100.200.98 15:48, 14 October 2011 (EDT)

Least Transformation

So there's a note at the bottom of this page which says that this show features the least amout of transformation of any show. This seems to me to be an opinion and not the type of thing we should note on this Wiki and I'm not even sure it's accuarate. What do you guys think. Flydie 10:44, 21 November 2011 (EST)

How is it an opinion? We've had several episodes where nobody transforms. Tom Servo the Great 10:54, 21 November 2011 (EST)

It's fact that can be verified by counting the number of transformations in the various series. However, unless we have those numbers, the note should be removed. —Interrobang 10:59, 21 November 2011 (EST)

Well, if I remember correctly, Sick Mind, Shadowzone, Scrapheap, One Shall Rise 3, and Con Job don't have anyone transforming. Tom Servo the Great 11:05, 21 November 2011 (EST)

Actually that's the problem most of those are actually wrong while Sick Mind doesn't feature any transformations and i havent seen One Shall Rise part 3 yet but i can definatley discern from memory that all the others on that list featured at least one transformation. Furthermore it seems like an assumtion someone made after having watched a couple of episodes and we shouldn't have assumptions on this wiki. Flydie 12:05, 22 November 2011 (EST)

Optimus, Bulkhead, Ratchet, Bumblebee, and Starscream all transform at least once in Shadowzone. Bumblebee and Bulkhead transform from vehicle to robot in Scrapheap. Starscream and Soundwave transform into jets to fly away from the exploding Makeshift/Wheeljack in Con Job. And While not really a transformation but Lazer beak transforms from chest piece to Bird mode and Airachnid goes in to spider mode in One Shall Rise Part 3.71.255.174.119 13:05, 30 June 2012 (EDT)

Nathan Fillion

Do we have a source on his involvement or the other two for that matter. Flydie 16:11, 17 December 2011 (EST)

Yes. Yes, we do! Though it would been nice if TFW2005 had said in their article who at Auto Assembly revealed the news (Kaye's confirmed it over Twitter, so we know it's true anyways, but I wanted to link to the original news), and none of the sources I found for the NYCC announcement of Fillion seemed like his casting was firm. --abates 16:59, 17 December 2011 (EST)

http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=16642 I am putting this here for something to point to if this comes up again. Antimatter 20:43, 9 February 2012 (EST)

HUB- Season 2

The HUB website says the second series will premere on Febuary 18th @ 8:30 p.m. Probably shouldn't post this as I can`t figure out if it's true or not. 208.111.201.121 21:26, 5 January 2012 (EST)

It's on the Hub's site, so unless someone's made a mistake, we should go with it. --abates 22:04, 5 January 2012 (EST)

Voice of Bumblebee

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah_Wood#Television

It says here that Elijah Wood will be voicing Bumblebee. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.19.14.39 (talk • contribs){{#if:20:19, 7 January 2012 (EST)| 20:19, 7 January 2012 (EST)|}}.

Whoever added the information to Wikipedia did not even cite a source. It is very probably false. --abates 20:27, 7 January 2012 (EST)

Dead Character Column?

Hey guys, freak'n shot in the dark here, but can we make a 'Dead Character' tab in the cast columns? I'm only suggesting this because more characters seem to get obliterated off the main and supporting cast list every episode, lately. And if somehow said 'offed' character comes back to life, then we can add them back to the main list of 'living' characters.

Characters that got their bucket's kicked:

Cliffjumper, Makeshift, Tailgate, Skyquake, Seaspray, Breakdown ;(

Just something to consider. Arcee-Cola 6:15, 30 March 2012 (EDT)

No. —Interrobang 21:41, 31 March 2012 (EDT)

Rogue Decepticons

Should we put the rouge Decepticons (Airachnid and Starscream) in the "other" category? -- Spydersix 15:40, 1 April 2012 (EDT)

I don't think it's necessary to move characters around on the cast list for the main cartoon page as their allegiances shift. Blackarachnia is in the Predacon column on the Beast Wars page, for instance. --abates 18:11, 1 April 2012 (EDT)

we could put them in the "other" space JackXD 23:16, 18 June 2012 (EDT)

Nemesis Prime's Faction

Why Nemeis Prime's name is in Decepticons list? He is not related to Decepticons at all. Shouldn't he considered as 'Others'? -- Thunderweb 05:48, 8 April 2012 (EDT)

I've removed it, because he's not even a character. --abates 06:07, 8 April 2012 (EDT)

character list needs editing again

the character list needs updating, in the 'other list': starscream clones, nemasis prime, starscream and ahracnid could stay in the decepticon section to make less hassle. thanks

Ultra Magnus needs to be added to the character list.Twister 19:18, 23 March 2013 (EDT)

Predaking needs to be moved to his own section under "Predacons", instead of being listed as a Decepticon. And Shockwave may need to be moved to the Main Cast. Stardust262 23 March

I dunno if I agree about Predaking. It's not like he's his own faction - he's under Decepticon command. --abates 21:04, 23 March 2013 (EDT)

He was recognized as a Predacon, though, so that should be listed as a subgroup probably.KrytenKoro 22:00, 23 March 2013 (EDT)

The Predacons are being presented as a seperate faction in the toyline, which is the whole reason they have their own faction symbol. The Predacons may be aligned with the Decepticons, but they themselves are not Decepticons. Stardust262 23 March.

Apparently, a guy named Peter Mensah is voicing Predaking. Stardust262 29 March

I'm not sure why the toyline affects how we list him on the cartoon page? In terms of the cartoon, he's presented as part of the Decepticon faction, at least in all the episodes screened. We don't list Wreck-Gar separately on G1 pages, even though he's a Junkion. Basically I feel like how we have it listed now is misrepresenting the setup on the cartoon. --abates 19:07, 30 March 2013 (EDT)

Junkion was never presented as a faction though, this is. -Stardust262 30 March

I would argue that Predacon is specifically being presented as a "species" of Transformer, rather than a faction. Predaking is not off on his own doing his own thing - he's following the orders of Megatron and Shockwave. He's clearly part of the Decepticon faction in the show. --abates 22:38, 30 March 2013 (EDT)

Meh, I disagree with you. I'd consider him to be his own faction, aligning his with Megatron's. I'd give more weight to what the toy line says, in this case, than you do.

Yeah, see, this is the page for the cartoon, which is why I think we should be list Predaking in terms of how the cartoon is presenting him, rather than how the toyline is presenting him. For an existing example, Starscream is listed as an Autobot on the page for "Rescue" because at that point in the Armada cartoon he'd defected and was acting as an Autobot. He's still a Decepticon in the toyline, but his circumstances in the cartoon override that because it's a cartoon-related article. In Predaking's case, he may be a Predacon, but he's acting as part of the Decepticon faction. If Predaking splits off later, then I think certainly he can be listed separately on the main cartoon page, though he should still be listed as a Decepticon on the relevant episode pages.

Can we get some other opinions so we can form some kind of consensus? --abates 16:23, 31 March 2013 (EDT)

Personally, I'd advocate putting Predaking under Others for now. To try and construct an analagous example, if the Autobots trained a bunch of cats to work for them, we wouldn't list them as being a Cats faction, but equally we wouldn't list the cats as being Autobots. If Predaking is revealed as an actual intelligent person, and continues to work with the 'Cons, at that stage I'd be cool with him being listed as a Decepticon. I think it'd take Predaking actually going off on his own and actually leading some other Predacons on the show for us to have them as a separate faction on the character list. Jalaguy 18:58, 31 March 2013 (EDT)

In the cartoon, as of now, he's a damn Decepticon. Stop this asinine hairsplitting. --M Sipher 19:03, 31 March 2013 (EDT)

Vehicons & Insecticons in the column

Just a thought, should the Vehicons and Insecticons (and probably the Terrorcons) have their own section in the Decepticon characters column, under something like sub-factions? The Vehicons aren't technically main characters. --User:Prime Temple 21 May 2012 (EDT)

Season 2 resumption confirmed

TFW2005 sources the Hub's website for the return of Prime season 2 on August 25. Should this be noted, or are we waiting for an episode title?

- ¡Usa El Queso! ^{Complain here} 2:59 AM, 26 July 2012 A.D.

Season 3 Name

it is been confirm by hasbro just this week that Season 3 will be Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters! http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/nycc12-transformers-prime-beast-hunters-176094/ Please Add Season 3 to it and Beast Hunters to it also!!!

Production image

From the moment that image of seasons 1 and 2 was added to the production section I haven't been able to view it. I don't what's wrong? -- Anythingspossibleforapossible 07:57, 13 February 2013 (EST)

Character list 2

We should change the character lists so that the dead decepticons (Breakdown, Dreadwing) are no longer listed as the main cast since they aren't part of the main cast anymore. - Hhall3 17:38, 18 May 2013 (EDT)

Why? If this was the G1 cartoon and we were on season 3, we wouldn't take Optimus Prime out of the main cast just because he'd died, because he was part of the main cast for two seasons. The cast list should not be a "this is the current state", it should consider the show overall. --abates 21:00, 18 May 2013 (EDT)

Well then maybe we should at least put "deceased" or something next to the dead characters. --Hhall3 20:10, 23 May 2013 (EDT)

Is there a reason for a "deceased" list, other than certain characters not part as the main cast? --Lonegamer78 21:21, 23 May 2013 (EDT)

It's an overview of which characters are or were in the series. I don't think their status at the current point in the series is relevant. People can look at the character pages if they want to know why that character isn't in current episodes. --abates 21:24, 23 May 2013 (EDT)

Not to mention that people might well be looking at this page ahead of watching the series (I know that I certainly used the TFA cartoon article to check the episode order when I was first watching that series), so slapping a bunch of character death spoilers all over isn't exactly a considerate thing to do. Jalaguy 03:07, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

Reception Section

With Beastwars/Machines, The Unicron Trilogy, and Animated holding a Reception section of their pages, would now be the right time to make one for Prime as well now that the show is over? Perhaps a Praise/Criticism section could be made as well because God knows there's plenty of both to go around. If one were to be made, would now be the right time? Or should we wait for Predacon Rising to air beforehand, I'm not certain whether it would be best to group them together or not. Thoughts?

Silas and MECH

Should we add a subsection in the human category of the character page for MECH, and move Silas' name there? --BlindmelonKen

Character List

I think for the character list we should include characters who were mentioned like Roadbuster, Impactor, Rotorstorm, Pyro, and Perceptor. I also think we should include Cybertron's Core, Autobot plague victims and the Dead Prime on the character list because they all made physical appearances in the show and affected it in some way. -- deceptibot

I'm not sure under what circumstances a name drop could be remotely considered making someone a cast member. If someone namedrops Elvis in a movie, there's no entry in the cast list at the end of the movie for Elvis because he didn't appear in it. --abates 15:37, 13 October 2013 (EDT)

Okay, but what about the core, plague victims and the dead prime? They made physical appearances on the show, and affected the storyline in some way. For example: the plague victims may have been dead, but they were what got Optimus infected with the Cybonic Plague, if not for the dead prime, Megatron would have never been able to make the starsaber, and the core played a significant role in Predacons Rising. deceptibot

No, just cause they caused an event to happen in the storyline doesn't mean they're automatically character list worthy. Also, sign your posts like this: ~~~~. Escargon 17:42, 13 October 2013 (EDT)

Okay, that would be a good point if it weren't for the fact that Seaspray barely affected the show like these guys and he doesn't even technically appear in the show, but he's still on the cast list. -- deceptibot 20:23, 13 October 2013 (EDT)

Continuity question

According to this wiki's classification system, War for Cybertron and Exiles are separate continuities within the Aligned continuity family as they are mutually incompatible with each other. My question is, with what we are told about the backstory in Prime, do we know which of these media are in canon with the show? Or is the series also incompatible? Indridcold13 (talk) 09:08, 8 March 2014 (EST)

We seem to be treating the backstory of Prime as an vague elemental mixture of the other Aligned fiction without outright choosing a specific piece of fiction as the defining history of the cartoon, so as to not favor one piece of fiction over another. Despite the discrepancies between each of them, War for Cybertron, Exodus, Fall of Cybertron, Exiles, Retribution, Rage of the Dinobots, etc. all act as past history material for the Prime cartoon's present day, but due to their conflicting natures, we can't pick certain ones over others, but also can't pick all of them (and I believe that we'd surely love to pick them all if they didn't conflict with each other). So, we have to simply give no definite answer (for there is none to give) and remain ambiguous on the exact historical nature of the Prime cartoon's backstory, much like how the Beast Wars cartoon regarded its historical G1 backstory. --Sabrblade (talk) 09:25, 8 March 2014 (EST)

Where to watch

Does anybody know where to find this show? Netflix only has season 1. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dingdongdude (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Seasons 2 and 3 are on Tubi. Also, sign your posts. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 12:33, 1 April 2021 (EDT)

Thank you. And I'm trying to remember to do that.Dingdongdude (talk) 09:34, 28 April 2021 (EDT)