Talk:Transformers: Prime (toyline)

Optimus and Megatron toys were revealed at Toy Fair: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/more-transformers-prime-toys-revealed-optimus-prime-megatron-and-humans-171432/ —TOM 21:40, 7 February 2011 (EST)

Yes, we're well aware: Miko Nakadai, Jack Darby, Raf Esquivel --ItsWalky 23:15, 7 February 2011 (EST)

SDCC 2011 new toy pics

Hasbro stock photos for four new figures - http://comics.ign.com/articles/118/1183012p1.html --Sabrblade 22:36, 20 July 2011 (EDT)

Wave numberings

Are we certain that the Deluxes Vehicon and Terrorcon Cliffjumper are part of the Robots in Disguise waves and are not part of the First Edition waves? After all, at NYCC 2011, Hasbro stated that the Wheeljack, Soundwave, new mold Bumblebee, and new mold Cliffjumper figures were Robots in Disguise Wave 1. Couldn't these two be "First Edition Wave 3"? SDCC 2011 showed them to be "Wave 3" figures, and they're coming out before the four mentioned "RiD Wave 1" figures. So, what's the story behind putitng them in the RiD main line instead of the FE line? --Sabrblade 22:59, 26 November 2011 (EST)

Terrorcon Cliffjumper is the FE mold, but part of the RID line. It shouldn't be listed as it is on here. Further, in his place should be deluxe FE Megatron who is properly First Edition Deluxe Series 005.

Japanese Exclusives?

Not going to worry about adding it to the article now (I'm sure someone with more local cred will do it), but how should the new "Prime Targetmaster Companions" from Japan, Skywarp, and the other handful of Japanese-only toys so far announced going to be handled? Just treat them in a similar vein to the (now old) Robots in Disguise line? - Vanguard 18:25, 20 January 2012 (EST)

I think only the ones that have no Hasbro counterparts should be listed in some fashion. The rest that are still relatively similar to the Hasbro versions shouldn't be listed, since we didn't do that for the Animated toyline page. --Sabrblade 01:13, 21 January 2012 (EST)

Separating the First Edition toys from the Robots in Disguise toys

Does anyone else think there should be separated individual sections for the First Edition toys and the Robots in Disguise toys? I mean, it might seem a little neater to put all nine First Edition releases by themselves in one section and then all the Robots in Disguise toys below them in a second section, as right now we have them wrapping around each other with things looking a little confusing. --Sabrblade 22:33, 20 January 2012 (EST)

Seems to be how things are organized on other pages with similar themes (Unicron Battles, etc.). I went ahead and separated them out. Probably should add the 'upcoming item' tags to a few entries here. - Vanguard 23:29, 20 January 2012 (EST)

And now that's done. I didn't add the macro to the first wave of RiD toys, since they're apparently coming out in the UK already and should be in release in the US any time now. I also didn't do anything about the "Movers" since I have no clue about them. - Vanguard 23:36, 20 January 2012 (EST)

Gun Jumping?

I didn't think we could/should use store pre-orders as 'verification' of upcoming assortments until they were confirmed. RobotKingdom has had errors in their pre-order information in the past, and some of these products (such as the Bot Shots) don't appear to be Prime products at all. While some of the upcoming material seems obvious (Voyager Megatron), shouldn't we wait for a little more confirmation? There's a reason I didn't put up Skywarp just yet, after all... - Vanguard 00:46, 21 January 2012 (EST)

Help:Official info#What constitutes official information? Though, if there are indeed any errors in this information, feel free to make any necessary corrections. --Sabrblade 00:53, 21 January 2012 (EST)

Well, the RobotKingdom link doesn't identify the branding of the Bot Shots toys, so those should not be here yet. Also, RobotKingdom is NOT currently on the 'first source' list that you cited. (Again, not trying to be difficult here, just that pre-order information has been burned before, particularly from RobotKingdom). At the very least, the Bot Shot assortment should be removed for the time being, and I think there should be a note added about the sources of future wave information be placed for the time being. This is an admin call, though, so I'm not going to make the edit. - Vanguard 01:00, 21 January 2012 (EST)

Yeah, I wasn't too certain on those, which is why I didn't link them to any specific version of those characters. But, you're right, we'll need the voice of one higher up to decide. Though, Walky did just add this bit to Silas' page, so... yeah, I'm stumped. --Sabrblade 01:05, 21 January 2012 (EST)

Just a few observations...

For one, I'm confident that 'Robots in Disguise' is simply referring to the Deluxe/Voyager price-point figures, the same way that 'MechTech' was used in the Dark of the Moon toyline. Note how only Deluxe/Revealers and Voyager/Powerizers have the 'Robots in Disguise' logo, as well as red details on the packaging, while Legion and Commander have 'Cyberverse', green detailing and no sign of 'Robots in Disguise' anywhere on them. The use of 'Robots in Disguise' for the ENTIRE mainline seems erroneous to me. Secondly, I'm also wondering if perhaps 'Revealers' and 'Powerizers' are simply tentative size-classes. The packaging for the figures still read 'Deluxe' and 'Voyager', and likewise, the Argos catalogue itself lists them as Deluxe and Voyager. I wonder if the Revealer/Powerizer names are actually, like 'CyberTech' and 'Megaverse', terms not being used officially, yet are still in the computer systems for Argos (when picking up my reserved Wheeljack, the Argos worker listed it as 'one Prime Revealer', yet his packaging states him to be Deluxe). I am not a member of any of the online Transformers communities, so I thought it best to raise the point here. If I'm in the wrong, by all means gloss over the non-member's random comments! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.205.85.159 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Is the BigBadToyStore a credible source?

I noticed recently that the BBTS have a page for Japanese 'Prime' figures, including several listed that I don't think have been confirmed anywhere else. TFW2005 have pointed it out and listed the figures by size class, including the new ones. Tarrn 19:48, 26 January 2012 (EST)

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/menu.aspx?menu=2819&category=8098

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/new-japanese-prime-toy-listings-on-bbts-174235/

BBTS is very credible, as far as being a secondary source. The only issue here is that we don't know, for sure, what all these Japanese releases actually are just yet. "Dreadwing" seems to be their version of "Skyquake", based on its listing. "Bikon" seems to be a very, very badly romanized version of "Vehicon". "Skywarp" is likely a redeco of the deluxe "Starscream" figure. All of this, of course, could be completely wrong. But, there's no harm, just yet, in just waiting until either Takara updates its page or we start seeing toy pictures. - Vanguard 14:31, 30 January 2012 (EST)

First Edition line cancelled?

According to TFW2005, BBTS, and TFSource, Hasbro has pulled the plug on First Edition Prime figures.

- ¡Usa El Queso! ^{Complain here} 16:47, 28 January 2012 (EST)

Arms Micron are listed here twice

They were already listed under the First Edition exclusives as Japanese exclusives, and now they gone and had their own section added in, repeating them. Just to clarify, which Arms Micron are First Edition exclusives and which aren't? Where is line drawn for them? --Sabrblade 11:34, 1 February 2012 (EST)

Mirage, Evac and Soundwave

According to the packaged images, these guys don't actually use the Prime name on their packagings... should they be considered a separate toyline, or is this new TFP toyline actually a Transformers catch-all line that just uses the Prime subtitle where necessary? --Detour 04:44, 18 February 2012 (EST)

Cyberverse "Series 2" What is 1

So, bought Prime Cyberverse Ratchet today. In a number of places on his package it says he is "Series 2: 004". But he's wave 1 of Prime toys. Does that mean these are Series 2 counting Movie Cyberverse as "Series 1"? If so we should probably note it. --76.28.76.206 14:44, 21 February 2012 (EST)

Weaponizer

Are Weaponizers Leader-class?192.249.47.177 15:24, 27 February 2012 (EST)

They are Leader class-sized, but are their own distinctive class priced at the Ultra price point. -- Sabrblade (not logged in) 15:30, 27 February 2012 (EST)

Guess

Given how Kup is a retool of Ironhide, isn't it a safe bet to say that Ironhide is in Wave 4? --12.164.240.144 13:04, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

There's nothing to directly indicate that Kup is a retool of Ironhide, we do see that he's a redeco, the head on the Cyberverse Ironhide and the Revealer Kup look very similar in the "fireman's helmet" shape, it may not be a retool. There's also no guarantee that Kup will be out AFTER Ironhide; this could be a similar situation to Generations Wheeljack/RtS Turbo Tracks, where Tracks was a redeco and retool of Wheeljack, but Wheeljack came out later. --Karhukjnsi 17:01, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

Manufacturing shift

Starting with the cyberverse and Bot Shots lines, production is based in Vietnam, rather then China. Hida Atarasi 22:13, 7 April 2012 (EDT)

Waves 2 and 3

Should we take down the "Not yet released" Box from Revealers Wave 3 and Powerizers Wave 2. Seeing as they are confirmed to be out pretty much everywhere, I would do it myself but I can't. Grimlock140 3:39, 25 April 2012

New SDCC stuff

Someone should add all this:

FE Voyagers, Vehicon and Terrorcon Cliffjumper will be sold in US. http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/san-diego-comic-con-33/sdcc-2012-first-edition-tf-prime-toys-coming-to-us-on-display-images-175470/

And some new confirmed toys: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/transformers-prime-dark-energon-bbts-exclusive-official-hasbro-images-175486/

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/transformers-prime-voyager-ultra-magnus-skyquake-official-images-175483/

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/official-transformers-prime-cyberverse-wave-4-images-from-hasbro-175481/

Re-release

Shouldn't we note that the First Edition figures are now being released in the U.S?

Us market Exclusive?

This is worng. Canada is getting the re-release too. Although we don't need it. Also, the US is not getting the normal First Edition Cliffjumper.--Modernwarrior 17:19, 14 September 2012 (EDT)

Beast Hunters

We should probably add a blurb about the line changing to the "Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters" subtitle for 2013 yes? And a link. Since we already list through the end of the current non BH stuff and folks might come to this page looking for info on the future. I'd do it but the page isn't editable from this side. :) --ZacWilliam1 09:14, 13 October 2012 (EDT)

Re-doing the whole damn page

Okay... this is a mess. I can't fathom why we're making people jump to two different pages for the smattering of Beast Hunters toys. We really should have the TakTom iteration of the line split out into its own subsection. I'm not keen on not having Cyberverse on here, but I suppose at least explaining why on the page rather than just a contextless link is better than nothing. I'm not going to rework everything RIGHT now, because I'll wait to see if anyone can come up with any good reasons as to why this page is like it is. --M Sipher (talk) 20:21, 16 October 2016 (EDT)