Talk:Transmetal

Redirect

I've made it so Transmetal 2 redirects to this page. We've already got TM2s mentioned in this article, and I don't think we need two articles on it, at least, not yet. --Suki Brits 18:50, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

TM2 OpOp and Megs?

Do Optimal Optimus and Dragon Megatron count as TM2s though? Technically they didn't become that way from Vok involvement.

Also, both Optimus and Cheetor DID have extra modes in TM2 mode (Optimus had Tank, Plane, Monkey and Big Robot modes, and Cheetor had a rocket in his tuckus). --Octopus Prime- King of the Road! 22:45, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Optimal Optimus is not a TM2 but Dragon Megatron is, I think the most populor fanon explanation is he assorbed lots of radiation from the TM driver due to prolonged contact. --X-BoB

Edits and changes

I have just made a major revision of the article. Please look it over for errors or omissions. The structure of the sections is a little odd, as the first two sections are for, basically, subgroups (TMs and TM2s), with fiction subsections, and the third section is for the IDW BW comic, itself fiction. I did this because the IDW section deals with both types of Transmetal, but I would prefer not to organize the entire article by fiction/toy. I think separating out the TM1 and TM2 sections is better. --Steve-o 23:23, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Uhhhh, Rattrap has an "exposed brain" before ever becoming a Transmetal. http://www.tfu.info/1996/Maximal/Rattrap/rattrap.htm--G.B. Blackrock 23:26, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Good point. That was an artifact from the old article that I didn't bother to think about. --Steve-o 23:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't agrea with the part about the TM Driver only working on dead transformers, if we inlcude fanon like that we might as well include the tidbit about how Megatron became a TM2 b/c of contact with the TM Driver. X-BoB58 23:42, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

The Megatron/TM2 speculation is completely unnecessary, and completely pulled out of the fandom's ass. We already have a perfectly good reason to expect his body to change, and as said in the article, there's no real reason to think that his body in the show is meant to have any similarity to the TM2s. The dead/driver thing is different, IMO. If true, for example, it explains why the driver might suddenly activate and mutate Blackarachnia right after she died, even though it had been sitting there all along doing nothing despite having many Transformers around it. There is actually a reason to speculate on that because there is something unexplained about it. I'm totally fine with wording the statement even more softly than it already is, or introducing that argument to back it up, but I think it should be mentioned somewhere. Perhaps in the (currently non-existant) Driver article would be more appropriate, but somewhere. --Steve-o 23:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

And unless your talking about the Protoform then TM2 Dinobot had nothing to do with dead TFs aswell. X-BoB58 01:16, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. This sentence -- "And Dinobot, of course, had been dead for some time already." -- is utterly nonsensical. It was a blank protoform that became TM2 Dinobot. Dinobot's dead body had previously been consumed by his funeral pyre. I think this "TM2 Driver affects dead TFs" stuff has no place in the article. --KilMichaelMcC 01:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

One notion is that Dinobot 2 came about through Megatron messing with things, but Blackarachnia changed while the driver was just sitting there. So maybe it only sparks up on its own for a dead 'bot? That's right out of my exhaust, that one. --Ratbat 03:14, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Although Merged sparks always provide some sort of Up-grade they don't always make TM2s, Windrazer, and BM Megs and Primal are proof of this.

Meanwhile

On the other hand, the only protoform removed from a stasis pod after the surge that we saw in the cartoon was Transmutate, who may have been Transmetal. (Rampage was also a Transmetal, but he was not stored in his pod as a protoform. Presumably he mutated by exactly the same process as the Earthbound Transmetals.)

I'm, uh, pretty sure Quickstrike and Silverbolt were also post-quantum surge... --ItsWalky 04:47, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd liek to see a note that McArachnia is a Transmetal 2, nto a Transmetal.

How do you figure that? McArachnia was before Transmetals 2 even existed. And there was "Transmetal" all over the packaging.--ItsWalky 05:07, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

...oops. I withdraw my comment. -Derik 05:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I do however note that TM2's are 'Cyberorganic,' in contrast to (say) Technoorganic (BM) or Bio-Cybernetic (G1 Limbo-images.) That particular funky 'savage' combination has a term, and Cyberorganic is it.

And frankly, with stuff like the BEast Wars mini, and various stuff that came before, we should get a note that the Cloning stuff for Transmetals 2 doesn't necessarily apply. (Any more than Pretenders inventing Micromasters.)

Is Tripredicus Agent Transmetal?-Derik 04:54, 11 May 2006 (UTC) Wich one? Shadow Panther isn't Metals Jaguar's toy certenly is(not so sure about his TV Show counterpart), and the TM2 Cheetor repaint is a Tm2. 11:03, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, didn't Silverbolt and Quickstrike also emerge from their pods post-surge? --Ratbat 04:59, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

As did TM Primal. X-BoB58 18:54, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Fuzors

"Interestingly, the Fuzors Silverbolt and Quickstrike, like the Transmetals, were immune to Vok technology, implying all post-quantum surge Beast Warriors possessed some Transmetal qualities."

Doesn't this imply, simply, that FUZORS possessed some Transmetal qualities, not "all post-quantum surge Beast Warriors"? I suggest changing that sentece too say "Fuzors" instead of "all post-quantum surge Beast Warriors".

I'm pretty sure the Fuzors were supposed to be partially transmetalized, like Transmutate. Notice how Silverbolt's wings and bird feet are a shiny metallic golden color? And how the green markings on Quickstrike are metallic looking? I'm pretty sure that was supposed to be partial transmetalization, because non-transmetal beast modes don't have any matallic elements to them. - Buddy —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.54.204.179 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}. 01:35, 21 March 2010 (EST)

Present tense

(General clean up. Removed speculation and fixed tenses. When talking about fictional events as fiction, one uses the present tense.) --Interrobang

Could you please change it back? I disagree, and think the result reads very strangely and awkwardly. Anything describing the fiction, no matter whether it's in-universe or not, should probably be in past tense. --ItsWalky 08:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Righto then. Interrobang 08:44, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

The Gathering

I'm not grocking what the hell the speculative suggestion Re: The Gathering is supposed to mean.

One could speculate that transformers who had still been in their stasis pods when the wave hit were not immune, pointing to Rampage and the blank protoform that was used to revive Optimus Primal as examples, though bot of those were unique circumstances.

So, those still in their statis pods... not-immune to the transwarp wave? But they were all still int their stasis pods circa season 3 when the Gathering takes place. That was a plot point.

And anyway, the pods were knocked won by the planetbuster before it exploded. The non-Transmetal TF's probably just had pods that landed somewhere shielded from the transwarp wave. -Derik 04:19, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Triple Changers

Are the first-wave Transmetals considered Triple Changers? (robot, beast, vehicle?) Should we categorize them as such? Darktruth 23:09, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Beast mode/Robot mode inversion

Should it be noted that the organic elements present on the Transmetal toys weren't actually organic in the show? Even Cheetor's "hairy chest" was actually smooth and shiny in the show. Basically, in the show, the transmetals were made to look shiny and metallic in both modes. - Buddy —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.54.204.179 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}. 04:43, 21 March 2010 (EST)

Robot mode organic elements

How many Transmetals 1 had organic elements in robot mode, other than Cheetor? - EternalGalvatron (talk) 18:02, 19 April 2014 (EDT)

...All of them? --Sabrblade (talk) 23:32, 19 April 2014 (EDT)