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Use the "show preview" button down there BEFORE you click "Save page". That many edits just to add in that one link for either page could've been avoided. --Lonegamer78 23:11, 30 April 2010 (EDT)
- And please provide a source for these claims. --Detour 23:19, 30 April 2010 (EDT)
- Source for Nicole Oliver voicing Cybertron Override, or it didn't happen. --Lonegamer78 14:14, 2 May 2010 (EDT)
I may not have an offical source for these calims, but it is obvious that her voice actress changes throughout ther series, and it is obvious that the other voice actress sounds exactly like Nicole Oliver. Just listen to differnet episodes online and you'll understand my point (eg. episode 5, and episode 18). --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 99.225.156.168 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}. 15:39, 2 May 2010 (EDT)
- Unless you find official sources, no. It may seem obvious to you, but that won't hold water here. --Lonegamer78 16:13, 2 May 2010 (EDT)
- Well, now, hang on, let's not get crazy with the laying down of the law, here. There are several instances in Cybertron of actors changing. For instance, Chiara Zanni voices Lori in three episodes, but I don't have a source for that - I simply know with certainty that it's her because her voice is completely different and at the time, I'd just got through watching Oban Star Racers, in which Zanni played the lead, meaning I recognized her voice right away. Likewise, I've never seen an official source that says Trevor Devall voiced Megatron in "Fallen", but nobody will contest that that's him. In this particular instance, I'm afraid I'm not really hearing it, but let's not run around screaming that we must absolutely have sources on this exact type of thing. Heck, most of our G1 voice credits derive from Zobovor's super-old list, which he mostly made himself, and which he made some flubs on. We only know that Rewind is Townsend Coleman because I figured it out like six years ago when Zob and Rik couldn't! - Chris McFeely 16:42, 2 May 2010 (EDT)
- My bad then. It's just that, I wouldn't know the difference (I don't watch as much as I used to), and coming from an anon makes it all the more suspicious. *has gotten a tad bit paranoid* Plus that old school-paper holdover of "citation, citation, citation". --Lonegamer78 17:07, 2 May 2010 (EDT)
- Thank you for the support. Despite that others need an offical source to put their minds at, I still know that Override is voiced by "both" Lisa Ann Beley "and" Nicole Oliver. Even if others don't agree that the other voice actress is Nicole Oliver, you at least have to admit that the person who does Override's voice consistantly changes, but I am 100% confident that Nicole Oliver is the other voice actress for Override. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 99.225.156.168 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}. 17:07, 2 May 2010 (EDT)
- I think it's partly the issue of how each person hears the voices.
- And sign your posts, at least. :P --Lonegamer78 17:14, 2 May 2010 (EDT)
- My apologies. I've only seen like... five minutes of Cybertron, maximum, (though I plan to watch it in the future...) and the fact that this guy was talking about how he had no sources and undoing other people's edits without explanation didn't really help. --NCZ 17:19, 2 May 2010 (EDT)
- Thank you for the support. Despite that others need an offical source to put their minds at, I still know that Override is voiced by "both" Lisa Ann Beley "and" Nicole Oliver. Even if others don't agree that the other voice actress is Nicole Oliver, you at least have to admit that the person who does Override's voice consistantly changes, but I am 100% confident that Nicole Oliver is the other voice actress for Override. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 99.225.156.168 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}. 17:07, 2 May 2010 (EDT)
- My bad then. It's just that, I wouldn't know the difference (I don't watch as much as I used to), and coming from an anon makes it all the more suspicious. *has gotten a tad bit paranoid* Plus that old school-paper holdover of "citation, citation, citation". --Lonegamer78 17:07, 2 May 2010 (EDT)
- Well, now, hang on, let's not get crazy with the laying down of the law, here. There are several instances in Cybertron of actors changing. For instance, Chiara Zanni voices Lori in three episodes, but I don't have a source for that - I simply know with certainty that it's her because her voice is completely different and at the time, I'd just got through watching Oban Star Racers, in which Zanni played the lead, meaning I recognized her voice right away. Likewise, I've never seen an official source that says Trevor Devall voiced Megatron in "Fallen", but nobody will contest that that's him. In this particular instance, I'm afraid I'm not really hearing it, but let's not run around screaming that we must absolutely have sources on this exact type of thing. Heck, most of our G1 voice credits derive from Zobovor's super-old list, which he mostly made himself, and which he made some flubs on. We only know that Rewind is Townsend Coleman because I figured it out like six years ago when Zob and Rik couldn't! - Chris McFeely 16:42, 2 May 2010 (EDT)
I think what's at issue here is the lack of sources on... well, everything.--RosicrucianTalk 17:48, 2 May 2010 (EDT)
- Well, "welcome to the Unicron Trilogy dubs", I'd say? The credits on the various UT shows were notoriously slapdash; each series had actors who went entirely uncredited, and in the case of Energon, the specific credits for the first episode (featuring "Autobot A" and "Autobot B") were included on around 25 subsequent ones, ignoring people who had regular roles.
- I think the only way for the issue at hand to be resolved is if someone with a trained ear, maybe McFeely, takes time to listen to Override's voice in the episodes cited. I would do it myself - I used to do such things all the time to work out VAs - but my schedule has been insane of late, and that isn't letting up soon. --Monzo 17:56, 2 May 2010 (EDT)
Okay, here we go, sourced and sorted! Nicole Oliver's resume on her own website, lists her as Override. Good ear, Mr. Anon! I wouldn't know her if she bit me, personally. What we need to do now is identify which episodes she voices her in. - Chris McFeely 18:30, 2 May 2010 (EDT)
- In fact, I'm now given cause to wonder if the episodes that I have tagged as featuring Thunderblast with a "very heavily amplified" voice are actually a different actress as well. And Mr. Anon, if you have familiarity with this particular stable of actors, perhaps you could put your ears to work attempting to deduce who played Leobreaker? Because it's not Paul Dobson (who voiced Overhaul), but I really don't believe the myriad sites that claim it's Blu Mankuma. - Chris McFeely 07:34, 3 May 2010 (EDT)
- Oh!! I see you beat me to the Leobreaker question yesterday! - Chris McFeely 08:27, 3 May 2010 (EDT)
- Sorry about that. In addition, I made some changes to cybertron scourge's profile as well as colin murdoch. And yes, I provided sources. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 99.225.156.168 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}. 20:28, 3 May 2010 (EDT)
- Oh!! I see you beat me to the Leobreaker question yesterday! - Chris McFeely 08:27, 3 May 2010 (EDT)
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