User talk:Tigerpaw28/List of Transformers TV Stations

Might want to fix the KTLA and KCAL links for Los Angeles. :) --Lonegamer78 18:56, 31 July 2009 (EDT)

Actually it wasn't the links that were wrong for the KTLA links, it was the display text. But thanks for pointing that out as it resulted in my noticing the links for Lincoln were incorrect. And I suppose I could save people having to click through a disambig page for KCAL. :)--Tigerpaw28 03:05, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

Hi, sorry for taking so very long to get back to you. Unfortunately most of the newspaper archives I have access to cut out at 1977, which means they don't cover any of the relevant periods. The only info I've been able to glean is that the original Transformers cartoon was broadcast on WPIX and WHEC-TV to Syracuse (via the Syracuse Herald-Journal) in late 1984. I've also got a reference in a Madison, WI newspaper that I'm unable to interpret at the moment. Everything else is a bit of a washout, I'm afraid. --Tribimat 06:52, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

Not a problem at all. I'm glad you were able to come up with something. Interestingly, WPIX is out of NYC and WHEC from Rochester. I'd say that confirms Rochester. It also seems to indicate that the Syracuse market didn't have an affiliate for the show. Makes some sense as that market didn't have any independent stations until 1986. Could I possibly be of assistance in deciphering the Madison reference? --Tigerpaw28 15:35, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

All I've got so far is a channel number (18), but I can't work out what this corresponds to, since the legend on the TV guide doesn't list a channel 18. I'm at a bit of a disadvantage since I'm not from the US and find the presentation confusing, but I'll persevere. I may have found another network broadcasting to Syracuse in 1986 - still not a local one, which is interesting. What I propose to do, rather than continue to use the document search function which is a bit unreliable, is to track down TV listings at 3-month intervals for the networks I've got newspaper coverage for, and then try to narrow things down from there. It may take a while, and it's not going to plug very many gaps, but it'll be thorough and reliable for the few instances it does throw up. I'll get back to you in a couple of weeks. --Tribimat 13:41, 19 July 2010 (EDT)

There's a WVTV channel 18 out of Milwaukee, WI that was an independent then. It was carried on many cable services in Wisconsin. It's possible that Madison didn't have a broadcast channel carrying it but that residents there could see the show on cable from Milwaukee. I'm sure this is confusing for non-Americans, but it really is quite common. I was able to deduce this possibility without having lived there just from Wikipedia articles and an understanding of US broadcasting, it will at least give you an idea of where to check. --Khajidha 13:56, 19 July 2010 (EDT)

That's certainly a possibility. It may also explain the situation with Syracuse. I know a few fans in Wisconsin, and I believe they live in the Madison area so I'll check with them to see if they know anything about it. --Tigerpaw28 15:52, 19 July 2010 (EDT)

Hmm, well my contact says that he thinks G1 would most likely have run on WMSN 47 which would have been channel 8 on cable. Also in regards to Madison getting Milwaukee stations on cable: "And as for receiving Milwaukee stations via cable? I've never known that to be the case in the Madison area markets, but I didn't really watch much cable in this town until 1999. I suppose it's not out of the question, but it would surprise me a little." That said, I think WVTV's still our best lead on the meaning of the listing. From the Wikipedia entry it sounds like it was a similar situation to WGN at the time. --Tigerpaw28 20:58, 19 July 2010 (EDT)

Atlanta

I am almost 99% certain that Generation 1 ran on WGNX, which is now WGCL. I'd have to dig out tapes from my parents' attic to confirm, though. There were three stations running syndicated programming in Atlanta in the 80s, WGNX, WATL, and WUPA. UPA had the really third string stuff - Dinosaucers, Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs, Denver the Last Dinosaur, maybe Robotech a couple years after it was hot. WGNX ran, IIRC, Joe, TF, He-Man in afternoons, with a fourth slot that rotated in and out with whatever the flavor of the season was - I clearly remember Rambo and Bravestarr. WATL, I think, really hit it big when they got TMNT, but before that mostly ran shows that skewed towards younger kids (Tom & Jerry, Woody Woodpecker, that kind of thing). I'd have to double-check with other Atlanta kids, though. I CAN confirm, however, that Beast Wars definitely ran on WUPA, while Beast Machines and RiD ran on WATL (even though they weren't the Fox affiliate at that point, they still ran the Fox Kids programming block). -hx 09:04, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, two more Atlanta-area fans (Recharge and Robo_rob) confirm that TF ran on WGNX. I'll see if I can't dig up anything for Macon, GA while I'm at it. -hx 12:59, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

Awesome, the info has been added. Thanks Hoop. --Tigerpaw28 15:35, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

G1 ran on WMGC in Macon, GA. No idea about G2 or BW. -hx 12:44, 16 July 2010 (EDT)

Just found this clip which confirms G1 ran on WAGT at some point. --Tigerpaw28 (talk) 19:43, 8 December 2013 (EST)

Augusta, GA. It's possible some folks on the far eastern borders of Atlanta metro watched it on WAGT and remember it as such, though. -hx (talk) 11:03, 9 December 2013 (EST)

I must've read Wikipedia wrong when I looked up the station. Could've sworn I read Atlanta, but it says Augusta. --Tigerpaw28 (talk) 14:18, 9 December 2013 (EST)

Charlotte

Virtually certain that the G1 toon ran on WCCB, as there were no other independent stations in Charlotte at the time and the networks ran soap operas in the afternoons when I distinctly remember watching it. --Khajidha 10:47, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

Another local fan agrees with my recollections, but I'm not sure where to find the documentation. --Khajidha 13:02, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

Would that fan happen to be Zadox Rok? I found a post at thetf.net where he cites WCCB as the Charlotte affiliate. That we have at least two people, maybe three citing it, and the fact it was the only independent at the time are enough evidence for me to add it. As for documentation, either recorded promos for or during an airing would suffice as would a printed TV listing indicating the station call letter or city it was published in. While it would be nice to have, the difficulty involved in obtaining these things make it unrealistic to require them. Thanks for the help! --Tigerpaw28 15:35, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

Nope, not Zadok, so three witnesses. I'm going to try looking at some microfilms of newspapers this weekend for citation of ads. --Khajidha 15:43, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

I think you messed up on adding Charlotte, WCCB was for G1 toon; I have no idea who ran G2 toon. I remember seeing it (I wish I didn't), but am not sure if it was still on WCCB or if WJZY had picked it up then. --Khajidha 16:15, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

Indeed I did. Thanks for catching that. --Tigerpaw28 17:56, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

Jackson, Mississippi

WDBD did indeed air Transformers, Transformers: The Movie (in April, 1988), Transformers: Generation 2, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Transformers: Robots In Disguise and Transformers: Cybertron. After all...I live in the Jackson, Mississippi area (and I made that Seibertron.com someone had mentioned)!

Throughout the '80s and '90s, I lived in Jackson. I moved to Brandon, Mississippi (one of Jackson's suburbs) in 2008.

Jeff Steele (Jeff39042)

Waco / Temple / Killeen, Texas

I can confirm that at least one season of G1 aired in this market on KCEN-TV, the local NBC affiliate KCEN.

I work for the newspaper out of Copperas Cove, Texas (Cove Leader Press), and one day I had a chance to skim through some of the archives. I found one batch of papers from the mid-1980s that still had their television listings section intact, and made note of who had what shows.

If you'd like, I can see if I can get permission from the editor to look through the archives again so as to check. Ironhold (talk) 11:29, 21 January 2014 (EST)

I had a chance to check the listings today. The 6 October 1985 paper and 19 October 1986 papers have KCEN-TV airing it weekday afternoons (3 PM 1085;, 3:30 PM 1986). There is no mention of them airing the series in 1984, and the TV listings booklet was discontinued before the start of the 1987 season. Ironhold (talk) 17:39, 21 January 2014 (EST)

I double-checked the archives again tonight and made a big discovery. Both the 5 May 1985 and 25 August 1985 television guidebooks have KCEN airing Transformers at 9:30 AM on Saturday mornings as opposed to Sunday mornings like everyone else. As I mentioned earlier, KCEN had G. I. Joe airing at 9:30 AM Saturday morning during the fall of 1984. Thing is, there would have been a mere ten episodes of the series at that point, and so I wondered how they would have been able to make those ten episodes last a full season. I couldn't find the January - April 1985 archive book, so I went with the next best thing. At this point, I have two guesses for what happened. Either way, we do, now, know that KCEN had the series for the 1984 season as well. Ironhold (talk) 12:54, 31 January 2014 (EST)

Final tally, as of 28 February 2014 -

• I can confirm that KCEN broadcast the 1984, 1985, and 1986 seasons of the series, with the 1984 season being delayed until January of 1985 for reasons that are not yet clear. I cannot confirm whether or not they broadcast the 1987 or 1988 seasons as the television book was discontinued before the start of the 1987 television season.

• KBVO, now known as KEYE, also broadcast the 1985 and 1986 seasons; I cannot confirm the 1984 season (as they were not in the listings at the time) or the 1987 or 1988 seasons (for the same reason). Although KBVO is recorded as broadcasting out of the Austin, Texas market, their signal strength reached the southern part of the Waco / Temple / Killeen market during this time period, and so the network can be added to both the Austin market and the Waco / Temple / Killeen market, but with a caveat.

• I can confirm from memory that KWKT broadcast Beast Machines and Robots In Disguise; the two shows aired as part of the regular Fox programming block.

Ironhold (talk) 19:34, 28 February 2014 (EST)

Network One

Both KDQT (Chico-Redding, California) and WAXC (Montgomery, Alabama) were part of the now-defunct "Network One" independent television network; according to the Wikipedia article, it ran from the "mid-1990s" to 1998. They list KDQT as being "defunct" (meaning that it's likely off the air now), but don't have anything at all for WAXC.

Might be worth it to check the list of Network One affiliates against the list of stations that ran Beast Wars to see if there's any other overlap. If there is, then that might potentially lead us towards more networks that ran Beast Wars.

edit - I think I found WAXC's Facebook page: link Ironhold (talk) 14:00, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

K56EX was a now-defunct station out of Honolulu that was part of the Network One chain. Given that two Network One affiliates had Beast Wars, might we have three? Ironhold (talk) 14:10, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

The CW's Vortexx broadcast of Transformers: Prime season 1

Might the broadcasting of Transformers: Prime season 1 on the CW's Vortexx block--which ran from December 8, 2012 to June 1, 2013--be added to this chart? --Sabrblade (talk) 22:26, 26 February 2015 (EST)

Yeah, that would make sense. That should just be a list of CW affiliates I would think. I'll try to look into it this weekend. --Tigerpaw28 (talk) 22:55, 26 February 2015 (EST)

This could potentially be a bit complicated. For the Waco / Temple / Killeen, Texas, metropolitan area, CBS station KWTX broadcasts The CW on a digital side band frequency. Because of this, both stations can rightly be listed as KWTX, but doing so might confuse people. Ironhold (talk) 23:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)

Time And Date.Com

Time And Date.com is a website that contains calendars for past years. For those who are looking to use newspaper archives to research more information, this can help you determine what day's newspaper you need to access providing that you know what day each week the newspaper's television listings were published. Ironhold (talk) 23:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)

WDBD: Jackson, Mississippi's first 'Transformers' affiliate (1984-2005)

In December 1984, WDBD (then an independent TV station) had aired Transformers (syndicated) for the first time.

July 1987: WDBD became a Fox affiliate.

October 2001: WDBD defected to The WB.

July 2006: WDBD rejoined Fox.

In December, 2005, WDBD (then a WB affiliate) had aired a Transformers cartoon (via The WB)--for the last time.

Since then, the station has been Transformers-less.

Jeff39042 (talk) 02:26, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

WRBJ-TV: Jackson, Mississippi's second 'Transformers' affiliate (2012-2013)

From 2012 to 2013, WRBJ-TV had Transformers: Prime via Vortexx.

Trinity Broadcasting Network had acquired WRBJ-TV in October 2012 and officially took over the station on May 24, 2013.

--Jeff39042 (talk) 05:10, 18 October 2018 (EDT)