Category talk:Repurposed toys

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The only other one I can think of is Ravage (twice, with Panther and Shadow Panther), unless we're counting character sheet swaps like Nightstick and Fracas. Prowl II, perhaps. —Interrobang 12:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I could live with Prowl II, but even then, I don't think there are enough of these to really warrant a category. Isn't the bottom limit six or seven? -hx 15:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Give it a week, I think there might be a few more knocking around continuity. If none turn up by then than I'd be okay with 'cat deletion.

(I will say, all the toys with two identities couresy of Energon do not belong here.) -Derik 15:39, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah - what about, say, the various Universe guys who are just "alternate" versions of existing dudes - I'm thinking here specifically of Lil' Lemony Spychanger RiD Prime, who was originally meant to be regular old RiD Prime (I presume) but then got retconned into being the Prime of a dimension where everyone was just Spychanger-sized?) I'm not sure that would count, necessarily... -hx 17:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Considering "teenyverse" is their FIRST and ONLY canon characterization... no, I'd say they don't count. --M Sipher 17:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

The lower size limit for categories isn't a hard limit -- when there's an unusual or curious category like this one we sometimes let them slide. --Steve-o 04:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

BM Tankor's toy was used to represent Quake's Vehicon drones in Wreckers #1. That should probably fit here. --ItsWalky 17:37, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Legion/Megatron/Decepticharge

Does Legion count? --FortMax 17:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure not. That wasn't any pre-existing toy. Find me a Windcharger/Decepticharge with a Megatron head and we'll re-evaluate. ;) --ItsWalky 17:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

The heads aren't that different. They just made the helmet slightly more polygonal. --FortMax 18:22, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

The heads are much more different than that. One is a Windcharger head, one is unmistakably a G1 Megatron head, including the distinctive brow, plus entirely new greebles on the sides of the helmet. Legion's altmode was also altered. --ItsWalky 18:36, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

It was? *looks*Oh, good catch Walky.

(This is a much narrower category than 'characters incarnations based on nonexistant toys', bit I feel like it's unique enough to be worth tracking.) -Derik 18:20, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

RiD Optimus Prime

Does the Cybertron redeco of RiD Optimus Prime count? The package bio said it was just Cybertron Prime in a new body, but the comic used the colors for RiD Prime. Cybertron Blurr? —Interrobang 19:38, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

IU think yes on RiD Prime, no on Blurr? (Wasn't Blur reassigned by his own tech-spec or something? I feel like that shouldn't count...) -Derik 20:55, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Magnaboss

Do Prowl, Ironhide, Silverbolt from BW Magnaboss count? IIRC, they should be different characters when the toy just came in to the market. But later IDW reassigned them in to the G1 characters. --TX55 06:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

They had absolutely no personal information, so no, they don't count. —Interrobang 07:06, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Reassigned/repurposed

Do we need to move all these to Category: Repurposed toys? Repurposed seems to be the jargon we're using. --ItsWalky 00:05, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

That's what I've been thinking. --M Sipher 00:16, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

Categorizing

Though I know the definition of Reassigning/Repurposing, I am still a little bit confused how to categorizing those character.

For example, "Shattered Glass Arcee is a reassigned toy from Elita-One", so...

1. Placing both SG Arcee and Elita-One under Category:Reassigned toys.
2. Placing SG Arcee under Category:Reassigned toys.
3. Placing Elita-One under Category:Reassigned toys.

According to what I understand, it seems the second is right. I'd like to know if I'm right or not. Thanks. :-D --TX55^TALK 10:21, 7 May 2009 (EDT)

I removed him from the category. It was decided to do this because those are not actual repurposes and this cat would be drowning in BWU Mini-Cons

....who decided? This is moronic, they're absolutely repurposes. The reason why that "See this page for toys" was invented wasn't for characters like the BW:U Micromasters, it was decided for guys like IDW Bulkhead who could literally have been represented by at least 5 seperate toys. Escargon (talk) 08:16, 20 February 2020 (EST)

They are only repurposes if you're going to be, to use your 24/7 tone, moronically pedantic by forcing wiki categorization systems on creators who are just reusing characters. Lugnut in WFC isn't a repurpose. It's just Lugnut in a universe corralled away because of wiki rules. Creators are not thinking of characters the wiki way and Jim Sorenson (the guy who made most of those "repurposes") has expressed that sentiment before. Saix (talk) 10:30, 20 February 2020 (EST)

Saix, I don't really have a horse in this race (aside from vaguely agreeing that there's a difference between the case of Lugnut and the case of, say, Armorhide (Movie) and Huffer (SG)), but figured I'd throw my hat in here to say that it'd be great if both you and User:NexusShard17 could talk to the people in the TFWiki Discord (or, failing that, over in the Allspark thead) and reach some kind of vague consensus before making changes to lots of pages (or, indeed, reverting those changes). Asking on talk pages beforehand has proven itself never to really garner a sufficient response, but I do think it's different on these other platforms, and it'd save time and heartache in cases like this. --The Wadapan (talk) 11:28, 20 February 2020 (EST)

My problem is that on some of the pages these changes have produced situations where a "repurposed toy" note is in the body, but they are being taken out of the "repurposed toy" category. This is an odd disconnect. But it stems from an underlying problem. There really is a conceptual difference between using a Rattrap toy as Packrat and using a Lugnut toy as a different incarnation of Lugnut, but both are using the same notes and categories. --Khajidha (talk) 10:58, 20 February 2020 (EST)

I've seen "this toy doubles as X (Armada) and X (BW)" and that seems to work. Saix (talk) 11:10, 20 February 2020 (EST)