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{{Disambigm|Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus's Armada (SG)}}
:''Cyclonus's Armada is one or more [[Decepticon]]s from the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:Cyclonus armada tftf.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Who cares if the President doesn't exist?  He's a great American!]]


[[Image:Cyclonus armada tftf.jpg|thumb|250px|Let the Fanwanking begin!]]
'''Cyclonus's Armada''' is the [[Decepticon]] or group thereof that [[Unicron]] put under [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]]'s command. Any details beyond that are a contentious matter; it may be a single Cyclonus-lookalike, a squadron of them, or instead simply [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and the [[Sweep (G1)|Sweep]]s. It may even be a group including those plus [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]! And don't even get us started on who the Cyclonus-bot(s) might've been created ''from.''
{{bigquote|And these shall be your minions: Scourge, the tracker, and his huntsmen, the Sweeps... Cyclonus, the warrior, and his armada.|[[Unicron]]|''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''}}


'''Cyclonus's Armada''' refers to the one <small>(or more)</small> seemingly identical robots created by Unicron at the same time as [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] in [[The Transformers: The Movie (1986)| The Movie]].
==Fiction==
===''Generation 1'' cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
[[File:Cycloni ffod5.jpg|thumb|The Armada that belongs to [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]], NOT the [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]] that belongs to ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]''.]]


As Cyclonus's personal forces the Armada is/are the logical counterpart to the [[Sweep]]s. The script for the movie refers to them thusly:
When [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] agreed to submit himself to Unicron and be re-created as [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]], Unicron also turned several fallen Decepticons into new warriors. He announced their names as he did so, first "Scourge the tracker and his huntsmen, the Sweeps" and then "Cyclonus the warrior and his armada". As Cyclonus was created, a duplicate of him could also be seen. But this doppelganger quickly disappeared and was rarely seen again. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}


:<tt>CYCLONUS is CREATED and then his "armada" of similar, but smaller and similarly colored and clad creatures are formed.</tt>
At least four jets of Cyclonus's design were seen on two occasions during an assault on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. [[:File:Cyclonus oddity armadaesque.jpg|One even sported a unique paint job which]], oddly, resembled [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]]'s! {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5}}


The actual ''number'' of robots in the 'Armada' are unknown.  While Unicron had only six Decepticons to Transform<ref>Six Decepticons; [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]], [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]], and [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] were ejected from [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]</ref> at least ''five'' Sweeps are seen at one point in this scene, and the inclusion of the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]], with the ability to clone themselves, makes the actually numbering ambiguous.<ref>Either more than the 6 Transformers seen were present (likely int he form of more Insecticon clones) or the Sweeps (and the Armada?) retained the Insecticons' cloning abilities.  Or a wizard did it.</ref>.
{{note|It is possible to dismiss all of these duplicate Cyclonuses in the poorly-made "[[Five Faces of Darkness]]" as animation errors.}}


Opinions differ on the armada's actual "existence".  Since Cyclonus's personal army was dropped in production, some argue its inclusion in the re-creation scene is little more than an error, and should be ignored.  The term 'Armada' or 'Cyclonus's armada' can be used by fans to refer to the continuity-headache it represents (almost like a label) without implying anything about that fan's [[personal canon|individual belief]] as to its existence/nonexistence.
====IDW ''Transformers: The Animated Movie'' comic====
[[File:Armada idw20th boom.jpg|thumb|left|For a guy who died so quickly, he sure created a lot of problems.]]


==The armada's fate==
A jet identical to Cyclonus was destroyed by a blast of [[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]]'s fire-breath.<ref>Although Grimlock did indeed use his fire-breath in this manner in the movie itself, his target was unambiguously Cyclonus himself with Galvatron inside. While Cyclonus survived that encounter with little damage, his lookalike in the comic goes kersplodey with equal unambiguity.</ref> {{storylink|To the Death—and Beyond!}}
===The Movie===
[[Image:Armada idw20th boom.jpg|thumb|left|]]
[[IDW]]'s 2006 [[Transformers: The Animated Movie]] comic, a faithful retelling of the 1986 movie, shows a jet identical to Cyclonus being destroyed by [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s fire-breath. This is generally interpreted as the comic's "explanation" for the Armada's subsequent disappearance in the movie- it was destroyed in its first combat encounter.


''Grimlock does indeed use his firebreath like this in the movie itself, but the target of his wrath was unambiguously Cyclonus himself with [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] inside. However while Cyclonus survived that encounter with little damage- his lookalike in the comic goes kersplodey with equal unambiguity.''
====Rodimus vs. Cyclonus====
Not long after their creation, Cyclonus and Scourge hunted down [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]], [[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]], and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s while they fled from [[Quintessa (planet)|Quintessa]] to [[Junkion (planet)|the planet of Junk]]. The hunters split up, and Cyclonus found the [[Autobot]]s on his own. Boarding their ship, he fought with Hot Rod, who taunted him. Cyclonus responded bitterly, complaining about how he'd been overlooked and undervalued "all his lives"; he said that even Unicron had failed to deliver on his promise of personal troops. He was jealous of Scourge's Sweeps, and in fact when Scourge caught up with them, the two ended up fighting each other instead of the Autobots. {{storylink|Rodimus vs. Cyclonus}}


===Five Faces of Darkness===
====Ask Vector Prime====
[[Image:Cycloni ffod5.jpg|thumb|Four jets of this type are seen at once in Five Faces of Darkness.]]
In an unstable [[Iocus]] reality created by the machinations of [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]] and [[Gong (GoBots)|Gong]] wherein the [[Unicron War]] played out with [[GoBot]]s involved, [[Slicks]] was reformatted into the Armada, which was built on [[Fracture (Movie)|Fracture]]'s template instead. {{storylink|Echoes and Fragments}}
At least four jets of Cyclonus' design<ref>Four jets are seen in a single shot on two separate occasions.</ref> take place in the final assault on Cybertron in [[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5]].


It has been ''suggested'' that [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]'s battle with [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] and [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] (where the latter two are apparently destroyed) is 'actually' supposed to be a battle with the armada.  And indeed, after this battle only two jets of Cyclonus's type are seen together.  However, Dirge and Ramjet had speaking roles, and were in-character at the time.  And were later seen to be alive.<ref>Dirge played a prominent role in [[Ghost in the Machine]].</ref>  ''And'' Dirge was implied to be dead.<ref>[[Octane (G1)|Octane]] bumps into what he seems to believe to be Dirge's [[Transformer funerary practices#Decepticons|funerary marker]] in the [[Decepticon Crypt]] in [[Starscream's Ghost]], though he does not say his name.</ref> ''<nowiki>*sigh*</nowiki>  It's something of a mess.''
===Marvel future timelines===
[[File:CyclonusArmadaMarvel.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Cyclonus's Armada Shadow Mode.]]


Regardless, the general consensus is that Cyclonus's armada, whatever their numbers, no longer exist by the time ''Five Faces of Darkness'' ends and the 3rd season of the cartoon proper begins.
Several additional ships in the shape of Cyclonus were present above the surface of [[Unicron]] shortly after Galvatron's creation. When Galvatron decided that he needed to take care of [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]] before going after the [[Matrix of Leadership|Autobots' Matrix]], the ships followed Cyclonus to Cybertron. {{storylink|Judgment Day!}}


==Proper name?==
===3H comics===
Reasoning that '''Armada''' might as well be a proper name since there's only one of him, many fans refer to Cyclonus's doppelgänger in the recreation scene by that name.
[[File:Wreckersskywarpcyclonus.jpg|left||thumb|Well, that clears ''that'' up.]]


In the original movie script Unicron uses the same rote format to introduce both Scourge and Cyclonus, and the word 'armada' is used in the same place the descriptive 'huntsmen' is for the Sweeps;
During the [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]] conquest of Cybertron Cyclonus and Skywarp coexisted, surviving by taking on [[Aero Drone]] forms. {{storylink|Departure}} They joined the [[Wreckers]], though Cyclonus eventually betrayed them because he was secretly on a mission from [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]]. {{storylink|Disclosure}}


{|
When the Wreckers caught up with Cyclonus in the bowels of Cybertron, for a moment Skywarp appeared to switch to his side. Cyclonus attributed this to Skywarp having once been his "Armada". Skywarp shot him and told him he had always hated that and hated him, even when Cyclonus had been [[Bombshell (G1)|"a bug"]]. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}
|+ '''1986 Movie'''
{{--}}
|-
|" ||Scourge, ||the tracker.... ||and his huntsmen... ||the Sweeps... ||"
|-
|" ||Cyclonus, ||the warrior... ||and his armada.... || ||"
|}


As envisioned int he original script, 'armada' is not a proper noun. However, the 2006 comic adaption <small>(which added the destruction of a single Cyclonus-type Jet during Galvatron's raid on [[Autobot City]])</small> parsed things differently;
==Origins==
[[File:TFTMCyclonusArmadaCloseup.jpg|upright=0.95|thumb|My shade of blueish purple may be almost 5% different!]]


{|
The Armada is, in general, a monumental headache for a number of reasons. The basic idea was for Cyclonus to have a group of followers identical to him in design as a natural counterpart to Scourge's Sweeps. This is evidenced by the movie script:
|+ '''2006 comic adaption'''
|-
|" ||'''SCOURGE''', ||THE TRACKER.... ||...AND HIS HUNTSMEN— ||'''THE SWEEPS'''! ||"
|-
|" ||'''CYCLONUS'''— ||THE WARRIOR... ||...AND HIS '''ARMADA'''! || ||"
|}
So while Armada was ''intended'' to be an improper noun, at least one source has treated it as a proper noun. Since ''that'' source (the 2006 comic) is the only one to explicitly address the 'problem' of the Armada one could ''argue'' it should have the final word.  ...or not.


==Who is the armada?==
:<tt>CYCLONUS is CREATED and then his "armada" of similar, but smaller and similarly colored and clad creatures are formed.</tt><ref>[http://www.camphortree.net/tf/tidbits/tftm_script.txt Final version of the ''Transformers: The Movie'' script]</ref>
[[Image:Armadadecepticon.jpg|thumb|Sticker from the 2007 'Masterpiece' Skywarp]]
[[Image:Cyclonus skywarp wreckers1.jpg|thumb|left|Oy.]]
The Armada's identity prior to re-creation somewhat fraught; there may be more than one of him/them, but it's also tied up in the question of [[Cyclonus (G1)#Who_is_Cyclonus.3F|who is Cyclonus?]].


Traditional [[fan-reasoning]] is that [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] were more prominent characters, and should have becomes [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and [[Cyclonus (G1)]]. ''Unfortunately'' every visual representation ever, spanning 20+ years, has shown Cyclonus to be created from [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]].<ref>Of course, the 2003 Australian movie DVD claims Bombshell became a [[Sweep]], but we don't think those character profiles were approved by Hasbro, fans tend to ignore them.</ref><ref>Of course, Bombshell was also at Starscream's subsequent coronation. Or maybe it was [[Salvo]].  Or maybe Cyclonus was Salvo. Of course, Skywarp was at the coronation too...  ''*sigh* It's something of a mess.''</ref>
However, while the [[#Marvel future timelines|original comic adaptation of the movie]] follows through with this, the actual movie itself does anything but. Only ''one'' Armada robot is shown to be created and then promptly vanishes from the film mere seconds later, while the number of Sweeps seems to increase from the two who are shown being created to... well, as many as they need.


The 2007 'Masterpriece' Skywarp toy includes a 'Armada Decepticon' sticker which seems to indicate Skywarp did indeed become the Armada.  Of course, a 2003 DVD profile states unequivocally that Skywarp became Cyclonus.<ref>It also states Cyclonus and Scourge are 'Unicrons', just ignore it, we all do!</ref>  In the [[Beast Era]], Cyclonus and Skywarp ere running around at the same time, so either Skywarp became an/the Armada, or there's some really nasty [[budding]] involved.
Consequently, opinions differ on the Armada's actual existence, with some arguing that since Cyclonus's personal army was dropped in production and removed from the film immediately after being introduced, its inclusion is an error that should be ignored. But then, if the Armada ''is'' seen to exist, precisely ''who'' was turned into a Cyclonus-bot is the subject of yet another debate. (See [[Cyclonus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Who is Cyclonus?|"Who is Cyclonus?"]] for more on that.)


This may all be moot; everyone but Megatron involved in Unicrons' re-creation appears to have been ''dead'', so neither Cyclonus nor his Armada should remember their previous existence any more than [[Hook, Line, and Sinker]] do. Several sources<ref>That same unreliable DVD release, Cyclonus [[Heroes of Cybertron]] PVC, much more reliably.</ref> actually state that Cyclonus was forged from the remains of ''several'' Decepticons.
[[File:Armadadecepticon.jpg|86px|left|thumb|Unicron even made them T-shirts.]]


Headaches and confusion aside, the vast preponderance of sources agree that Skywarp became the Armada (or at least one of them.)
Some interpret the "and his armada" line to refer to Scourge and the Sweeps. This is a somewhat awkward reading because they had been created and called out by name already. The ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Thundercracker and Skywarp toys come packed with [[:File:MPSkywarp stickers.jpg|a sticker-sheet featuring multiple Decepticon-themed emblems]] such as "[[Seeker (body-type)|Jetron]] Airforces", "[[Kremzeek]] Attack", and "Skywarp Teleport". One of these says "Armada Decepticon" and shows a Cyclonus-shaped silhouette with several Sweep-shapes behind it; this can be interpreted multiple ways, but it is ultimately just a funny sticker unlikely to have had much thought behind it.
{{--}}


==Fan wub==
==Toys==
[[Image:Cyclonus oddity armadaesque.jpg|thumb|100px|Nobody tell [[e-Hobby]].  I will ''murder'' you.]]
While there have been no toys of the Armada released, anyone interested in [[army-building|assembling an Armada]] is not without options! As the Armada are physically identical to Cyclonus, enterprising fans can purchase multiples of any [[Cyclonus (G1)/toys|Cyclonus toy]] of their choosing and [[personal canon|make pretend]].
Um... kay... see, there's this one ''guy'', who's like- totally just like Cyclonus, only he has different colors...


And I know we don't, you know ''count'' that kind of thing, because it's always just an animation error and stuff?  Like it was supposed to be Dirge, or a Cyclonus-lookalike and some colorist screwed up, and he's only in 1 frame of animation an' everything...?
==Notes==
* The capitalization of "Armada" is inconsistent in the fiction. The movie script, treating it as a generic term for a group of soldiers, leaves it uncapitalized. The ''Wreckers'' story, treating it as a singular identifier for Skywarp's Unicronian form, capitalizes it. We default to the proper-name form unless the specific fiction dictates otherwise.


...except, you know, he like, shows up again later, int he same color scheme, this time in jet mode, fully animated doing a bombing run.  <small>(This is after Dirge dies too, so it's not him.)</small>
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Sono muteki kantai''' (その無敵艦隊, "that invincible armada")


Soo... I know the ''usual'' standard for distinguishing a [[generic]] from a boo-boo is that it either has to make no ense for it to be a mistake, or it has to be repeated.  And this one's ''totally'' repeated...
==References==
<references />


<small>pleasedonthateme</small>
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'''Note:''' ''We will also murder you for telling e-Hobby about the [[Cybertronian Empire]] guy who looks just like Cyclonus.''  <tt>Cyclonus + e-Hobby = your murder</tt> ''can probably be thought of as a general rule.
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==Footnotes==
<references/>
==External links==
* [http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~sstoneb/tf/tidbits/tftm_script.txt Original script for TF:TM]
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9xbI5a1ilk Galvatron's re-creation scene] — on YouTube
 
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Latest revision as of 03:03, 22 November 2024

This subject of this article goes by multiple names that apply to other articles as well. See Cyclonus (Armada), Cyclonus's Armada (SG).
Cyclonus's Armada is one or more Decepticons from the cartoon portion of the Generation 1 continuity family.
Who cares if the President doesn't exist? He's a great American!

Cyclonus's Armada is the Decepticon or group thereof that Unicron put under Cyclonus's command. Any details beyond that are a contentious matter; it may be a single Cyclonus-lookalike, a squadron of them, or instead simply Scourge and the Sweeps. It may even be a group including those plus Thundercracker and Skywarp! And don't even get us started on who the Cyclonus-bot(s) might've been created from.

And these shall be your minions: Scourge, the tracker, and his huntsmen, the Sweeps... Cyclonus, the warrior, and his armada.

Unicron, The Transformers: The Movie

Fiction

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Generation 1 cartoon continuity

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The Transformers cartoon

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The Armada that belongs to Cyclonus, NOT the Cyclonus that belongs to Armada.

When Megatron agreed to submit himself to Unicron and be re-created as Galvatron, Unicron also turned several fallen Decepticons into new warriors. He announced their names as he did so, first "Scourge the tracker and his huntsmen, the Sweeps" and then "Cyclonus the warrior and his armada". As Cyclonus was created, a duplicate of him could also be seen. But this doppelganger quickly disappeared and was rarely seen again. The Transformers: The Movie

At least four jets of Cyclonus's design were seen on two occasions during an assault on Cybertron. One even sported a unique paint job which, oddly, resembled Dirge's! Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5

It is possible to dismiss all of these duplicate Cyclonuses in the poorly-made "Five Faces of Darkness" as animation errors.

IDW Transformers: The Animated Movie comic

[edit]
For a guy who died so quickly, he sure created a lot of problems.

A jet identical to Cyclonus was destroyed by a blast of Grimlock's fire-breath.[1] To the Death—and Beyond!

Rodimus vs. Cyclonus

[edit]

Not long after their creation, Cyclonus and Scourge hunted down Hot Rod, Kup, and the Dinobots while they fled from Quintessa to the planet of Junk. The hunters split up, and Cyclonus found the Autobots on his own. Boarding their ship, he fought with Hot Rod, who taunted him. Cyclonus responded bitterly, complaining about how he'd been overlooked and undervalued "all his lives"; he said that even Unicron had failed to deliver on his promise of personal troops. He was jealous of Scourge's Sweeps, and in fact when Scourge caught up with them, the two ended up fighting each other instead of the Autobots. Rodimus vs. Cyclonus

Ask Vector Prime

[edit]

In an unstable Iocus reality created by the machinations of Sideways and Gong wherein the Unicron War played out with GoBots involved, Slicks was reformatted into the Armada, which was built on Fracture's template instead. Echoes and Fragments

Marvel future timelines

[edit]
Cyclonus's Armada Shadow Mode.

Several additional ships in the shape of Cyclonus were present above the surface of Unicron shortly after Galvatron's creation. When Galvatron decided that he needed to take care of Starscream before going after the Autobots' Matrix, the ships followed Cyclonus to Cybertron. Judgment Day!

3H comics

[edit]
Well, that clears that up.

During the Vehicon conquest of Cybertron Cyclonus and Skywarp coexisted, surviving by taking on Aero Drone forms. Departure They joined the Wreckers, though Cyclonus eventually betrayed them because he was secretly on a mission from Cryotek. Disclosure

When the Wreckers caught up with Cyclonus in the bowels of Cybertron, for a moment Skywarp appeared to switch to his side. Cyclonus attributed this to Skywarp having once been his "Armada". Skywarp shot him and told him he had always hated that and hated him, even when Cyclonus had been "a bug". Wreckers: Finale Part II

Origins

[edit]
My shade of blueish purple may be almost 5% different!

The Armada is, in general, a monumental headache for a number of reasons. The basic idea was for Cyclonus to have a group of followers identical to him in design as a natural counterpart to Scourge's Sweeps. This is evidenced by the movie script:

CYCLONUS is CREATED and then his "armada" of similar, but smaller and similarly colored and clad creatures are formed.[2]

However, while the original comic adaptation of the movie follows through with this, the actual movie itself does anything but. Only one Armada robot is shown to be created and then promptly vanishes from the film mere seconds later, while the number of Sweeps seems to increase from the two who are shown being created to... well, as many as they need.

Consequently, opinions differ on the Armada's actual existence, with some arguing that since Cyclonus's personal army was dropped in production and removed from the film immediately after being introduced, its inclusion is an error that should be ignored. But then, if the Armada is seen to exist, precisely who was turned into a Cyclonus-bot is the subject of yet another debate. (See "Who is Cyclonus?" for more on that.)

Unicron even made them T-shirts.

Some interpret the "and his armada" line to refer to Scourge and the Sweeps. This is a somewhat awkward reading because they had been created and called out by name already. The Masterpiece Thundercracker and Skywarp toys come packed with a sticker-sheet featuring multiple Decepticon-themed emblems such as "Jetron Airforces", "Kremzeek Attack", and "Skywarp Teleport". One of these says "Armada Decepticon" and shows a Cyclonus-shaped silhouette with several Sweep-shapes behind it; this can be interpreted multiple ways, but it is ultimately just a funny sticker unlikely to have had much thought behind it.

Toys

[edit]

While there have been no toys of the Armada released, anyone interested in assembling an Armada is not without options! As the Armada are physically identical to Cyclonus, enterprising fans can purchase multiples of any Cyclonus toy of their choosing and make pretend.

Notes

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  • The capitalization of "Armada" is inconsistent in the fiction. The movie script, treating it as a generic term for a group of soldiers, leaves it uncapitalized. The Wreckers story, treating it as a singular identifier for Skywarp's Unicronian form, capitalizes it. We default to the proper-name form unless the specific fiction dictates otherwise.

Foreign names

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  • Japanese: Sono muteki kantai (その無敵艦隊, "that invincible armada")

References

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  1. Although Grimlock did indeed use his fire-breath in this manner in the movie itself, his target was unambiguously Cyclonus himself with Galvatron inside. While Cyclonus survived that encounter with little damage, his lookalike in the comic goes kersplodey with equal unambiguity.
  2. Final version of the Transformers: The Movie script