User talk:Sntint

Pictures from other sites

I believe we actually can use them under fair use, though we prefer Hasbro stock photos when we can (unless they're too ineptly posed or transformed). Half of the toy photos on here come from the always thorough Seibertron galleries. Anyway, what should be critiqued is the fact its not a very good pose (I generally prefer more neutral poses), the filename is non-descriptive and it doesn't show the vehicle mode. :D --FFN 05:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I was afraid that it had been done a lot. To use the picture with the watermark seems kind of... rude, though. It just feels icky to so blatently steal images, when we DON'T steal text. It's old netiquette. --Sntint 05:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Stealing bad. Using with full credit... better. Which means the image credit needs to say where it came from, with a full link (not just the URL,) indicate whether it's being used with permission or not, use the {{fairuse}} template instead of {{hastak}}indicate the copyright belongs to the site, not Hasbro, but usually note that Hasbro still owns the likeness of the toy being photographed.

Also, the way 'fair use' works, legally, is that it has to be the 'lesser part of value' of a work being excerpted. tfu.info's main site-generated content is their pics, if you take the robot and vehicle pics, you've taken 85% of the article-- avoid doing that. Seibertron.com's galleries are usually 50+ pictures, nicking one of them is only about 2% of the whole, and thus doesn't really 'devalue' the gallery in the same manner that taking tfu.info's does. Basically- if we can't find an official toy pic, the wiki seems okay with using pics from other sites... but we're reslly strict about properly crediting them in the most elaborate fashion possible, and making damn sure you properly describe the copyright relationships, because Copyright erodes if it's not defended- and we'd just as soon NOT have Hasbro be forces to 'defend itself' against this wiki.

...as for watermarks, I just clone 'em out in Photoshop. "I'm already linking to the originating site, clearly the purpose of the watermark- to prevent theft-without-credit is accomplished." The originating site might prefer their watermark still stay on there, but I'm comfortable that my ethical obligation has been fullfilled by the link.

And of course, the originating site (beign the copyright holder has a right to request removal- but I don't think anyone ever has. -Derik 06:27, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

J'wan

I thought it was some misspelled reference to J'nwan. Which I misspelt. Erm. My brain's not working today. Interrobang 07:16, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Heh. You could have just replied on your own Talk page. /:) --Sntint 07:18, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

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