Gone but Not Forgotten!: Difference between revisions
Importing text file |
No edit summary |
||
| Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
<table class="infobox" style="width: 20em;"> | |||
<tr style="background-color: rgb(231, 212, 146); text-align: center; font-size: 12px;"> | |||
<td colspan="2" style="font-size: 14px; background-color: rgb(231, 212, 146); color: black; font-weight: bold;" align="center"> | |||
<table style="background-color: transparent;" width="100%"> | |||
<tbody><tr style="font-size: 14px;"> | |||
<td class="tti_buttonlink">'''[[Afterdeath!|«]]''' | |||
</td><td align="center">[[The Transformers (Marvel Comics)|''The Transformers'' (US)]] #25 | |||
</td><td class="tti_buttonlink" align="right">'''[[Funeral for a Friend!|»]]''' | |||
</td></tr> | |||
<tr class="tt1_secondarynav"> | |||
<td class="tti_buttonlink">'''[[Afterdeath!|«]]''' | |||
</td><td align="center">[[Generation 1 (Marvel Comics)#Marvel_UK|''The Transformers'' (UK)]] #107–108 | |||
</td><td class="tti_buttonlink" align="right">'''[[Funeral for a Friend!|»]]''' | |||
</td></tr></table> | |||
</td></tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td colspan="2" style="font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" align="center"> [[image:MarvelUS-25.jpg|300px]]<br>The 25th Anniversary mark is so common that it's a special occasion not to have it. | |||
</td></tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td colspan="2" style="font-size: 14px; background-color: rgb(231, 212, 146); color: black; font-weight: bold;" align="center"> "Gone but Not Forgotten!" | |||
</td></tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>'''Publisher''' </td><td> [[Marvel Comics]] | |||
</td></tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>'''Date published''' </td><td> October 1986 | |||
</td></tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>'''Cover date''' </td><td> February 1987 | |||
</td></tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>'''Writer''' </td><td> [[Bob Budiansky]] | |||
</td></tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>'''Penciler''' </td><td> [[Don Perlin]] | |||
</td></tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>'''Inkers''' </td><td> [[Ian Akin]] & [[Brian Garvey]] | |||
</td></tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>'''Colorist''' </td><td> [[Nelson Yomtov|Nel Yomtov]] | |||
</td></tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>'''Letterer''' </td><td> [[Janice Chiang]] | |||
</td></tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>'''Editor''' </td><td> [[Don Daley]] | |||
</td></tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td>'''Continuity''' </td><td> [[Marvel Comics continuity]] | |||
</td></tr> | |||
</table> | |||
'''As the Decepticons relocate to a new base, Shockwave plays a gambit to finally destroy Megatron.''' | '''As the Decepticons relocate to a new base, Shockwave plays a gambit to finally destroy Megatron.''' | ||
==Synopsis== | |||
The | The [[United States]] [[United States Military|army]] prepares to invade the [[Decepticon]] | ||
base. Unknown to them, the Decepticons are already planning to abandon | base. Unknown to them, the Decepticons are already planning to abandon | ||
this base for a new one off the Florida keys, intending to make better | this base for a new one off the Florida keys, intending to make better | ||
use of the stolen | use of the stolen [[Hydrothermocline|hydrothermocline]] to meet their energy needs. Megatron has other concerns on his mind. He is preoccupied with the death of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], | ||
unable to fully believe that his enemy is, in fact, dead. This | unable to fully believe that his enemy is, in fact, dead. This | ||
uncertainty drives him mad (as well as the fact that it was a human | uncertainty drives him mad (as well as the fact that it was a human | ||
that did the actual killing, rather than himself). | that did the actual killing, rather than himself). | ||
As the other Decepticons abandon their base, Shockwave and Soundwave stay behind to arrange for the | As the other Decepticons abandon their base, Shockwave and Soundwave stay behind to arrange for the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] to attack and destroy Megatron. To further Megatron's confusion, the Predacons have been fitted with [[Autobot]] [[Insignia|symbols]], to make him think that they have been sent by Optimus Prime. | ||
The Predacons locate and attack Megatron who, despite being | The Predacons locate and attack Megatron who, despite being | ||
| Line 274: | Line 80: | ||
in their individual forms, the Predacons combine into Predaking. | in their individual forms, the Predacons combine into Predaking. | ||
However, Predaking just proves to be a bigger target, and Megatron | However, Predaking just proves to be a bigger target, and Megatron | ||
defeats him with one blast of his | defeats him with one blast of his [[Fusion cannon|fusion cannon]]. | ||
When the Decepticons arrive at their new base, a Decepticon | When the Decepticons arrive at their new base, a Decepticon | ||
| Line 287: | Line 93: | ||
death. He now knows what he did not see at the time: that Optimus | death. He now knows what he did not see at the time: that Optimus | ||
Prime's personality had been saved on a computer disk. This awareness | Prime's personality had been saved on a computer disk. This awareness | ||
drives him mad once again, and he blows up the | drives him mad once again, and he blows up the [[Space bridge|space bridge]] to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] | ||
with himself on it. Both disappear, and Shockwave reflects that it was | with himself on it. Both disappear, and Shockwave reflects that it was | ||
not he himself who destroyed Megatron, but "a memory did!" | not he himself who destroyed Megatron, but "a memory did!" | ||
==Featured characters== | |||
( | {{featuredcharacters|c2= | ||
* [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (4) | |||
* [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (5) | |||
* [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] (6) | |||
* [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (7) | |||
* [[Blast Off]] (11) | |||
* [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (8) | |||
* [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] (9) | |||
* [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] (10) | |||
* [[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] (11) | |||
* [[Motormaster]] (12) | |||
* [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] (13) | |||
* [[Drag Strip]] (14) | |||
* [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] (15) | |||
* [[Headstrong]] (16) | |||
* [[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]] (17) | |||
* [[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]] (18) | |||
* [[Tantrum]] (19) | |||
* [[Predaking]] (22) | |||
|c3= | |||
'''Regulars''' | '''Regulars''' | ||
* [[Walter Barnett]] (3) | |||
* | |||
'''Guests''' | '''Guests''' | ||
* [[Skolnik]] (1) | |||
* [[General Hadley]] (2) | |||
* [[Francine]] (20) | |||
* [[Earl]] (21) | |||
}} | |||
==Errors== | |||
* On page 8, the caption reads that Megatron "commands Drag Strip to carry him to their destination," and the coloring is consistent with this. The art, however, shows Megatron entering Dead End. Later on the car he's in is drawn, colored, and referred to as Dead End. | |||
* On page 8, the caption reads that Megatron "commands Drag | |||
Strip to carry him to their destination," and the coloring is | |||
consistent with this. The art, however, shows Megatron entering Dead | |||
End. Later on the car he's in is drawn, colored, and referred to as | |||
Dead End. | |||
* When Dead End finds the laser disk in Predaking, Shockwave is drawn with only one arm. | * When Dead End finds the laser disk in Predaking, Shockwave is drawn with only one arm. | ||
==Items of note== | |||
* Brawl is seemingly killed in this issue. Don't worry, though. Even though his head is crushed, he later gets better. | * Brawl is seemingly killed in this issue. Don't worry, though. Even though his head is crushed, he later gets better. | ||
* It would appear that the American army is incapable of | * It would appear that the American army is incapable of distinguishing between an artillery bombardment and a shower of flying debris. | ||
distinguishing between an artillery bombardment and a shower of flying | * This issue was reprinted as issue #8 of [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Generations (comic reprints)|Generations]]'' series. | ||
debris. | * This would not be the last time a [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] goes into [[Miracle|a deep funk]] when [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|his nemesis]] is [[Crisis|killed]]. | ||
* This issue was reprinted as issue #8 of | |||
* This would not be the last time a | |||
===References=== | |||
* The hydrothermocline was stolen in " | * The hydrothermocline was stolen in "[[Afterdeath!]]", the previous story. | ||
* Page 4 consists entirely of flashbacks to "Afterdeath!". | * Page 4 consists entirely of flashbacks to "Afterdeath!". | ||
* In the US version of this story, Shockwave instructs Soundwave to radio | * In the US version of this story, Shockwave instructs Soundwave to radio [[Cobra]], a reference to the alliance they made in the original Marvel ''[[G.I. Joe and the Transformers]]'' mini-series. | ||
===UK printing=== | |||
* This story is probably the most edited of any US story printed in the UK comic. | * This story is probably the most edited of any US story printed in the UK comic. | ||
* The Dead End mistake mentioned in the errors section was | * The Dead End mistake mentioned in the errors section was fixed for the UK printing. Dead End was recolored in red, and the caption box was corrected, referring to him by his actual name. | ||
fixed for the UK printing. Dead End was recolored in red, and the | * Page 11 of the US comic was edited to make a better cliffhanger for UK issue #107. Megatron was given new dialog, replacing a speech bubble of Dead End questioning his leader's sanity. | ||
caption box was corrected, referring to him by his actual name. | * Megatron and the Predacons had met before in UK continuity. In the story arc beginning with "[[Prey!]]" Shockwave employed the Predacons to hunt down and kill Megatron. However he was so deranged (and befuddled), that he didn't remember this first encounter. To reflect this previous meeting a lot of dialog was changed for the UK version of this issue. | ||
* Page 11 of the US comic was edited to make a better | * On US page 9, Shockwave gives Razorclaw his assignment on Earth. In the UK version, Razorclaw worries that Megatron will recognize him. Shockwave quickly allays those fears. | ||
cliffhanger for UK issue #107. Megatron was given new dialog, replacing | * On US page 12, the Predacons lament having to change into Earth forms. In the UK version, they lament having to stay in those forms since their last visit. | ||
a speech bubble of Dead End questioning his leader's sanity. | |||
* Megatron and the Predacons had met before in UK continuity. In the story arc beginning with " | |||
Shockwave employed the Predacons to hunt down and kill Megatron. | |||
However he was so deranged (and befuddled), that he didn't remember | |||
this first encounter. To reflect this previous meeting a lot of dialog | |||
was changed for the UK version of this issue. | |||
* On US page 9, Shockwave gives Razorclaw his assignment on | |||
Earth. In the UK version, Razorclaw worries that Megatron will | |||
recognize him. Shockwave quickly allays those fears. | |||
* On US page 12, the Predacons lament having to change into | |||
Earth forms. In the UK version, they lament having to stay in those | |||
forms since their last visit. | |||
* Some caption boxes on page 12 were changed to reflect the Predacons' previous visit. In particular the caption '''The Predacons have arrived!''' on was changed to '''The Predacons have returned!''' for the UK version. | * Some caption boxes on page 12 were changed to reflect the Predacons' previous visit. In particular the caption '''The Predacons have arrived!''' on was changed to '''The Predacons have returned!''' for the UK version. | ||
* On US page 13, Razorclaw says Megatron doesn't know the Predacons. In the UK version, he says Megatron doesn't remember them. | * On US page 13, Razorclaw says Megatron doesn't know the Predacons. In the UK version, he says Megatron doesn't remember them. | ||
{{note|Considering the theme of memory and its importance running through this issue, these changes to the UK story almost seem ''appropriate''.}} | |||
* US page 2 was also edited, but this time to reflect the fact that the ''[[G.I. Joe and the Transformers]]'' story was not 'in continuity' for the UK comics (and wasn't printed until years later). In the US version, Shockwave suggests contacting Cobra and telling them about the Decepticons' moving base. In the UK version, Shockwave talks instead about Megatron's mental instability. | |||
* According to issue #107's letters page [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] considers the [[August 23|23rd of August]] 1986, his birthday. That's the date he took over the ''Transformers'' letters page. He also thinks he could take out Soundwave in a fight. | |||
===Covers (3)=== | |||
<gallery> | |||
Image:MarvelUS-25.jpg|'''US issue #25''' - Predacons gone wild! | |||
Image:MarvelUK-107.jpg|'''UK issue #107''' - Ironically, Rampage isn't on this cover. | |||
Image:MarvelUK-108.jpg|'''UK issue #108''' - Hang on, haven't we been here [[Prey|before]]? | |||
</gallery> | |||
* '''US cover:''' Megatron surrounded by the Predacons, by [[Herb Trimpe]]. | |||
* '''UK issue #107 cover:''' mad Megatron, by [[Dave Hine]] and [[Robin Bouttell]]. | |||
* '''UK issue #108 cover:''' reuse of art from US cover, recolored and with word balloons by [[Robin Bouttell]]. | |||
===Advertisements=== | |||
* None yet identified. | |||
[[Category:Marvel US issues]] | |||
[[Category:Marvel UK issues]] | |||
Revision as of 08:20, 24 March 2009
<tbody>
| |||||||
![]() The 25th Anniversary mark is so common that it's a special occasion not to have it. | |||||||
| "Gone but Not Forgotten!" | |||||||
| Publisher | Marvel Comics | ||||||
| Date published | October 1986 | ||||||
| Cover date | February 1987 | ||||||
| Writer | Bob Budiansky | ||||||
| Penciler | Don Perlin | ||||||
| Inkers | Ian Akin & Brian Garvey | ||||||
| Colorist | Nel Yomtov | ||||||
| Letterer | Janice Chiang | ||||||
| Editor | Don Daley | ||||||
| Continuity | Marvel Comics continuity | ||||||
As the Decepticons relocate to a new base, Shockwave plays a gambit to finally destroy Megatron.
Synopsis
The United States army prepares to invade the Decepticon base. Unknown to them, the Decepticons are already planning to abandon this base for a new one off the Florida keys, intending to make better use of the stolen hydrothermocline to meet their energy needs. Megatron has other concerns on his mind. He is preoccupied with the death of Optimus Prime, unable to fully believe that his enemy is, in fact, dead. This uncertainty drives him mad (as well as the fact that it was a human that did the actual killing, rather than himself).
As the other Decepticons abandon their base, Shockwave and Soundwave stay behind to arrange for the Predacons to attack and destroy Megatron. To further Megatron's confusion, the Predacons have been fitted with Autobot symbols, to make him think that they have been sent by Optimus Prime.
The Predacons locate and attack Megatron who, despite being outnumbered five-to-one, is able to defend himself (although not unscathed by any means). Finding Megatron too strong for them to defeat in their individual forms, the Predacons combine into Predaking. However, Predaking just proves to be a bigger target, and Megatron defeats him with one blast of his fusion cannon.
When the Decepticons arrive at their new base, a Decepticon soldier (it is unclear who) locates a laser disk inside Predaking, which Soundwave then plays back to reveal Shockwave's attempt to have Megatron killed. As Megatron threatens to destroy Shockwave, Shockwave explains that he recorded major portions of his personality on the disk he gave to the Predacons: "I controlled the Predacons. I was with them as much as I am with you now!"
This revelation causes Megatron to reflect on Optimus Prime's death. He now knows what he did not see at the time: that Optimus Prime's personality had been saved on a computer disk. This awareness drives him mad once again, and he blows up the space bridge to Cybertron with himself on it. Both disappear, and Shockwave reflects that it was not he himself who destroyed Megatron, but "a memory did!"
Featured characters
(Numbers indicate order of appearance.)
| Decepticons | Humans |
|---|---|
|
Regulars
Guests
|
Errors
- On page 8, the caption reads that Megatron "commands Drag Strip to carry him to their destination," and the coloring is consistent with this. The art, however, shows Megatron entering Dead End. Later on the car he's in is drawn, colored, and referred to as Dead End.
- When Dead End finds the laser disk in Predaking, Shockwave is drawn with only one arm.
Items of note
- Brawl is seemingly killed in this issue. Don't worry, though. Even though his head is crushed, he later gets better.
- It would appear that the American army is incapable of distinguishing between an artillery bombardment and a shower of flying debris.
- This issue was reprinted as issue #8 of IDW Publishing's Generations series.
- This would not be the last time a Megatron goes into a deep funk when his nemesis is killed.
References
- The hydrothermocline was stolen in "Afterdeath!", the previous story.
- Page 4 consists entirely of flashbacks to "Afterdeath!".
- In the US version of this story, Shockwave instructs Soundwave to radio Cobra, a reference to the alliance they made in the original Marvel G.I. Joe and the Transformers mini-series.
UK printing
- This story is probably the most edited of any US story printed in the UK comic.
- The Dead End mistake mentioned in the errors section was fixed for the UK printing. Dead End was recolored in red, and the caption box was corrected, referring to him by his actual name.
- Page 11 of the US comic was edited to make a better cliffhanger for UK issue #107. Megatron was given new dialog, replacing a speech bubble of Dead End questioning his leader's sanity.
- Megatron and the Predacons had met before in UK continuity. In the story arc beginning with "Prey!" Shockwave employed the Predacons to hunt down and kill Megatron. However he was so deranged (and befuddled), that he didn't remember this first encounter. To reflect this previous meeting a lot of dialog was changed for the UK version of this issue.
- On US page 9, Shockwave gives Razorclaw his assignment on Earth. In the UK version, Razorclaw worries that Megatron will recognize him. Shockwave quickly allays those fears.
- On US page 12, the Predacons lament having to change into Earth forms. In the UK version, they lament having to stay in those forms since their last visit.
- Some caption boxes on page 12 were changed to reflect the Predacons' previous visit. In particular the caption The Predacons have arrived! on was changed to The Predacons have returned! for the UK version.
- On US page 13, Razorclaw says Megatron doesn't know the Predacons. In the UK version, he says Megatron doesn't remember them.
- US page 2 was also edited, but this time to reflect the fact that the G.I. Joe and the Transformers story was not 'in continuity' for the UK comics (and wasn't printed until years later). In the US version, Shockwave suggests contacting Cobra and telling them about the Decepticons' moving base. In the UK version, Shockwave talks instead about Megatron's mental instability.
- According to issue #107's letters page Grimlock considers the 23rd of August 1986, his birthday. That's the date he took over the Transformers letters page. He also thinks he could take out Soundwave in a fight.
Covers (3)
-
US issue #25 - Predacons gone wild!
-
UK issue #107 - Ironically, Rampage isn't on this cover.
-
UK issue #108 - Hang on, haven't we been here before?
- US cover: Megatron surrounded by the Predacons, by Herb Trimpe.
- UK issue #107 cover: mad Megatron, by Dave Hine and Robin Bouttell.
- UK issue #108 cover: reuse of art from US cover, recolored and with word balloons by Robin Bouttell.
Advertisements
- None yet identified.




