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<td>'''Publisher''' </td><td> [[Marvel Comics|Marvel Comics]]
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<td>'''Writer''' </td><td> [[Bob Budiansky|Bob Budiansky]]
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<td>'''Penciler''' </td><td> [[Don Perlin|Don Perlin]]
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<td>'''Inker''' </td><td> [[Keith Williams|Keith Williams]]
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<td>'''Letterer''' </td><td> [[Janice Chiang|Janice Chiang]]
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<td>'''Editor''' </td><td> [[Michael Carlin|Michael Carlin]]
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<td>'''Continuity''' </td><td> [[Marvel Comics continuity|Marvel Comics continuity]]
<td>'''Continuity''' </td><td> [[Marvel Comics continuity]]
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==Synopsis==
==Synopsis==
The [[Transformer|Transformers]]' homeworld, the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], is a war-torn, resource-strapped wasteland. Struggling survivors hide from ruthless [[Decepticon|Decepticon]] overlords, who hunt them down for sport and scrap metal. The [[Autobot|Autobot]] Blaster, waiting to meet up with his partner Scrounge, encounters one such hunter, and trashes him but good.
The [[Transformer|Transformers]]' homeworld, the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], is a war-torn, resource-strapped wasteland. Struggling survivors hide from ruthless [[Decepticon]] overlords, who hunt them down for sport and scrap metal. The [[Autobot]] Blaster, waiting to meet up with his partner Scrounge, encounters one such hunter, and trashes him but good.


Scrounge, meanwhile, has infiltrated the Decepticon headquarters fortress [[Darkmount|Darkmount]], using the wire-guided sensors in his Very Special Arm. He records an interstellar transmission received by Shrapnel and some other Decepticons, who claim it is of world-shaking importance. While retracting his Very Special Arm sensors, Scourge trips an alarm; he retreats, but Shrapnel captures him outside the fortress.
Scrounge, meanwhile, has infiltrated the Decepticon headquarters fortress [[Darkmount]], using the wire-guided sensors in his Very Special Arm. He records an interstellar transmission received by Shrapnel and some other Decepticons, who claim it is of world-shaking importance. While retracting his Very Special Arm sensors, Scourge trips an alarm; he retreats, but Shrapnel captures him outside the fortress.


Blaster returns to [[Autobase (G1)|Autobase]], but only to try and convince his fellow Autobots to search for Scrounge. Citing Scrounge's past unreliability, base commander Perceptor is reluctant to do so, but yields when he's outvoted by his troops.
Blaster returns to [[Autobase (G1)|Autobase]], but only to try and convince his fellow Autobots to search for Scrounge. Citing Scrounge's past unreliability, base commander Perceptor is reluctant to do so, but yields when he's outvoted by his troops.


Shrapnel takes Scrounge to the court of Decepticon commander Straxus. Straxus crushes Scrounge's Very Special Arm during a brief interrogation, and orders him tossed into the [[Smelting pool|smelting pool]], a pit that serves the dual function of execution chamber and raw materials processing for the Decepticon war effort.   
Shrapnel takes Scrounge to the court of Decepticon commander Straxus. Straxus crushes Scrounge's Very Special Arm during a brief interrogation, and orders him tossed into the [[smelting pool]], a pit that serves the dual function of execution chamber and raw materials processing for the Decepticon war effort.   


Perceptor's Autobots question the fuel-starved [[Empties|Empties]] about Scrounge's disappearance, and learn of his capture. The others give up hope, but Blaster continues the hunt alone. Infiltrating Darkmount, he is briefly captured and brought before Straxus, but the tyrant isn't interested and orders him tossed into the pool.   
Perceptor's Autobots question the fuel-starved [[Empties]] about Scrounge's disappearance, and learn of his capture. The others give up hope, but Blaster continues the hunt alone. Infiltrating Darkmount, he is briefly captured and brought before Straxus, but the tyrant isn't interested and orders him tossed into the pool.   


Blaster soon finds Scrounge... what's left of him, at least; the pool has melted away much of his body. The other Autobots arrive to save Blaster. Scrounge is already too badly damaged to be saved, but he passes on a recording of the Decepticon message to Blaster, who is pulled out of the pool by Powerglide. As the Autobots fight their way out of Darkmount, Blaster uses the molten metal pumped from the smelting pool as a weapon to drive off the attacking Decepticons.
Blaster soon finds Scrounge... what's left of him, at least; the pool has melted away much of his body. The other Autobots arrive to save Blaster. Scrounge is already too badly damaged to be saved, but he passes on a recording of the Decepticon message to Blaster, who is pulled out of the pool by Powerglide. As the Autobots fight their way out of Darkmount, Blaster uses the molten metal pumped from the smelting pool as a weapon to drive off the attacking Decepticons.


Back at Autobase, the Autobots play the recording and discover that [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] lives on among the Autobots on [[Earth|Earth]]. This gives the team new hope, and Scrounge is remembered for his sacrifice.
Back at Autobase, the Autobots play the recording and discover that [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] lives on among the Autobots on [[Earth]]. This gives the team new hope, and Scrounge is remembered for his sacrifice.




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<th style="background:#FFEEEE"> [[Autobots|Autobots]]</th><th style="background:#EEEEFE"> [[Decepticons|Decepticons]]</th><th style="background:#FFEEB8"> Others
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* [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] (3)
* [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] (3)
* [[Scrounge|Scrounge]] (4)
* [[Scrounge]] (4)
* [[Powerglide|Powerglide]] (7)
* [[Powerglide]] (7)
* [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] (8)
* [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] (8)
* [[Seaspray|Seaspray]] (9)
* [[Seaspray]] (9)
* [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] (10)
* [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] (10)
* [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] (11)
* [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] (11)
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* [[Ferak|Ferak]] (2)
* [[Ferak]] (2)
* [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] (5)
* [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] (5)
* [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] (13)
* [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] (13)
* [[Bombshell|Bombshell]] (14)
* [[Bombshell]] (14)
* [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] (15)
* [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] (15)
* [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]] (16)
* [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]] (16)
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* [[Telus and Rotorbolt|Telus and Rotorbolt]] (1)
* [[Telus and Rotorbolt]] (1)
* [[Wheezel|Wheezel]] (6)
* [[Wheezel]] (6)


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==Items of note==
==Items of note==
* ''References to other Transformers continuities/issues:'' Soundwave sent the message in issue [[The Next Best Thing to Being There!|#10]].
* ''References to other Transformers continuities/issues:'' Soundwave sent the message in issue [[The Next Best Thing to Being There!|#10]].
* The title on the issue's first page is given as "Return to Cybertron Part 1: The Smelting Pool!." Ostensibly, this would make "[[The Bridge to Nowhere!|The Bridge to Nowhere!]]," "Return to Cybertron Part 2", although it is not explicitly named as such.  
* The title on the issue's first page is given as "Return to Cybertron Part 1: The Smelting Pool!." Ostensibly, this would make "[[The Bridge to Nowhere!]]," "Return to Cybertron Part 2", although it is not explicitly named as such.  
* This issue features the Cybertronian [[Alternate mode|alt modes]] of the second year [[Mini Vehicle|Mini Vehicles]].
* This issue features the Cybertronian [[Alternate mode|alt modes]] of the second year [[Mini Vehicle|Mini Vehicles]].
* The [[Titan Books|Titan Books]] reprint that contains this storyline, '''Cybertron Redux''', features [[Autobot cassette|Autobot Mini-cassette]] [[Ramhorn|Ramhorn]] on the cover, who never appears in the story. Or does he? Could Ramhorn have been the red cassette Scrounge handed to Blaster?
* The [[Titan Books]] reprint that contains this storyline, '''Cybertron Redux''', features [[Autobot cassette|Autobot Mini-cassette]] [[Ramhorn]] on the cover, who never appears in the story. Or does he? Could Ramhorn have been the red cassette Scrounge handed to Blaster?
* This issue was reprinted as issue #5 of [[IDW Publishing|IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Generations (comic reprints)|Generations]]'' series.
* This issue was reprinted as issue #5 of [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Generations (comic reprints)|Generations]]'' series.
* The picture of Blaster on the cover uses his cartoon and Marvel UK face (without his visor).
* The picture of Blaster on the cover uses his cartoon and Marvel UK face (without his visor).


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* '''US cover:''' Blaster falling into the smelting pool, by [[Herb Trimpe|Herb Trimpe]].
* '''US cover:''' Blaster falling into the smelting pool, by [[Herb Trimpe]].
* '''UK issue #66 cover:''' reuse of art from US cover.
* '''UK issue #66 cover:''' reuse of art from US cover.
* '''UK issue #67 cover:''' Blaster attacking Decepticons, by [[John Higgins|John Higgins]].
* '''UK issue #67 cover:''' Blaster attacking Decepticons, by [[John Higgins]].


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This article is about issue 17 of the Marvel US comic. For the Decepticon torture and recycling device, see Smelting pool.

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<tr style="font-size:14px;"> <td class="tti_buttonlink">« </td><td align="center">The Transformers (US) #17 </td><td align="right" class="tti_buttonlink">» </td></tr> <tr class="tt1_secondarynav"> <td class="tti_buttonlink">« </td><td align="center">The Transformers (UK) #66–67 </td><td align="right" class="tti_buttonlink">» </td></tr></table> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="font-size: 12px; background-color:#ffffff;" align="center"> <img alt="" src="/w2/images2/thumb/4/44/MarvelUS-17.jpg/230px-MarvelUS-17.jpg" width="230" height="345" border="0" /><br />Apparently it melted Blaster's paint right off! </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="font-size: 14px; background-color:#e7d492; color:black;font-weight:bold;" align="center"> "The Smelting Pool!" </td></tr> <tr> <td>Publisher </td><td> Marvel Comics </td></tr> <tr> <td>Date published </td><td> February 1986 </td></tr> <tr> <td>Cover date </td><td> June 1986 </td></tr>










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<tr> <td>Colorist </td><td> Nel Yomtov </td></tr>




















<tr> <td>Letterer </td><td> Janice Chiang </td></tr>







<tr> <td>Editor </td><td> Michael Carlin </td></tr>












<tr> <td>Continuity </td><td> Marvel Comics continuity </td></tr>



</table> On Cybertron, an Autobot spy discovers a message sent to the Decepticons from Earth.

Synopsis

The Transformers' homeworld, the planet Cybertron, is a war-torn, resource-strapped wasteland. Struggling survivors hide from ruthless Decepticon overlords, who hunt them down for sport and scrap metal. The Autobot Blaster, waiting to meet up with his partner Scrounge, encounters one such hunter, and trashes him but good.

Scrounge, meanwhile, has infiltrated the Decepticon headquarters fortress Darkmount, using the wire-guided sensors in his Very Special Arm. He records an interstellar transmission received by Shrapnel and some other Decepticons, who claim it is of world-shaking importance. While retracting his Very Special Arm sensors, Scourge trips an alarm; he retreats, but Shrapnel captures him outside the fortress.

Blaster returns to Autobase, but only to try and convince his fellow Autobots to search for Scrounge. Citing Scrounge's past unreliability, base commander Perceptor is reluctant to do so, but yields when he's outvoted by his troops.

Shrapnel takes Scrounge to the court of Decepticon commander Straxus. Straxus crushes Scrounge's Very Special Arm during a brief interrogation, and orders him tossed into the smelting pool, a pit that serves the dual function of execution chamber and raw materials processing for the Decepticon war effort.

Perceptor's Autobots question the fuel-starved Empties about Scrounge's disappearance, and learn of his capture. The others give up hope, but Blaster continues the hunt alone. Infiltrating Darkmount, he is briefly captured and brought before Straxus, but the tyrant isn't interested and orders him tossed into the pool.

Blaster soon finds Scrounge... what's left of him, at least; the pool has melted away much of his body. The other Autobots arrive to save Blaster. Scrounge is already too badly damaged to be saved, but he passes on a recording of the Decepticon message to Blaster, who is pulled out of the pool by Powerglide. As the Autobots fight their way out of Darkmount, Blaster uses the molten metal pumped from the smelting pool as a weapon to drive off the attacking Decepticons.

Back at Autobase, the Autobots play the recording and discover that Optimus Prime lives on among the Autobots on Earth. This gives the team new hope, and Scrounge is remembered for his sacrifice.


(Numbers indicate order of appearance.)


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Errors

  • The transmission received on Cybertron states that the Decepticons on Earth were led by Megatron and that the Autobots were led by Optimus Prime. However when Soundwave sent the message (in US issue #10), Shockwave was leader of the Decepticons, with Megatron lost and presumed dead. At the time Optimus Prime was also a severed head, and captive of Shockwave.

Items of note

  • References to other Transformers continuities/issues: Soundwave sent the message in issue #10.
  • The title on the issue's first page is given as "Return to Cybertron Part 1: The Smelting Pool!." Ostensibly, this would make "The Bridge to Nowhere!," "Return to Cybertron Part 2", although it is not explicitly named as such.
  • This issue features the Cybertronian alt modes of the second year Mini Vehicles.
  • The Titan Books reprint that contains this storyline, Cybertron Redux, features Autobot Mini-cassette Ramhorn on the cover, who never appears in the story. Or does he? Could Ramhorn have been the red cassette Scrounge handed to Blaster?
  • This issue was reprinted as issue #5 of IDW Publishing's Generations series.
  • The picture of Blaster on the cover uses his cartoon and Marvel UK face (without his visor).

Covers (3)

<table class="gallery" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td><div class="gallerybox" style="width: 155px;"> <div class="thumb" style="padding: 13px 0; width: 150px;"><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; width: 120px;"><img alt="" src="/w2/images2/thumb/4/44/MarvelUS-17.jpg/80px-MarvelUS-17.jpg" width="80" height="120" border="0" /></div></div> <div class="gallerytext"> US issue #17 - Cybertron could only afford red.


</div> </div></td> <td><div class="gallerybox" style="width: 155px;"> <div class="thumb" style="padding: 13px 0; width: 150px;"><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; width: 120px;"><img alt="" src="/w2/images2/thumb/9/95/MarvelUK-066.jpg/89px-MarvelUK-066.jpg" width="89" height="120" border="0" /></div></div> <div class="gallerytext"> UK issue #66 - Delicious Transformer soup.


</div> </div></td> <td><div class="gallerybox" style="width: 155px;"> <div class="thumb" style="padding: 13px 0; width: 150px;"><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; width: 120px;"><img alt="" src="/w2/images2/thumb/4/4d/MarvelUK-067.jpg/91px-MarvelUK-067.jpg" width="91" height="120" border="0" /></div></div> <div class="gallerytext"> UK issue #67 - I can write my name in the snow too.


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  • US cover: Blaster falling into the smelting pool, by Herb Trimpe.
  • UK issue #66 cover: reuse of art from US cover.
  • UK issue #67 cover: Blaster attacking Decepticons, by John Higgins.

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