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So, just who is Magnus Prime, anyway? There are some competing facts, none of them conclusive: | So, just who is Magnus Prime, anyway? There are some competing facts, none of them conclusive: | ||
*The Siege on Cybertron box set calls him a City Commander. That, combined with his name, implies that he might be a new incarnation of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]. However, there's an [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Titans_Return|Ultra Magnus Titan Master]] figure created to be shipped in the same Strength/Intelligence/Fireblast/Speed matrix as the rest of the Siege on Cybertron toys. | *The Siege on Cybertron box set calls him a City Commander. That, combined with his name, implies that he might be a new incarnation of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]. However, there's an [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Titans_Return|Ultra Magnus Titan Master]] figure created to be shipped in the same Strength/Intelligence/Fireblast/Speed matrix as the rest of the Siege on Cybertron/Chaos on Velocitron toys. Hasbro's [[John Warden]] stated in an interview it is not Ultra Magnus.<ref>John Warden stated in an [https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/transformers-titans-return-product-reveals-news-updates-rumors-leaks-and-more--p1911385.php#p1911385 interview], "No he’s not Ultra Magnus." and "No it’s not Ultra Magnus."</ref> | ||
*In the same interview, John Warden stated that the figure was intended to be [[Ginrai (human)|Ginrai]],<ref>John Warden stated in the interview above, "That was when we were going to naming the characters and we couldn’t call him Ginrai, so I wanted to make sure that when we worked with the copyright team, that we chose a name that was accessible to maybe a casual fan?" and "Our intention was that is essentially Ginrai but without saying it."</ref> and further suggested that the figure belonged with [[Optimus Prime (G1)|"Generation 1" Optimus Primes]] or [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|''Armada'' Optimus Prime]].<ref>John Warden stated in the interview above, " So using a name like Magnus Prime it kind of feels like it’s a step up from Optimus Prime?" and "No I would say put him with Optimus Prime, or the Combiner Wars Optimus, like it’s in that zone, or the 2000’s Armada."</ref> | |||
*His Titan Master partner | *His Titan Master partner was revealed by [[Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch]] as [[Ginrai (human)#Generations|Ginrai]], which suggests that Magnus Prime is either Ginrai's [[transtector]] or the sentient robot [[Ginrai (robot)|Ginrai]]. | ||
*Leaked documents described by the TransMissions podcast,<ref>[https://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2016/03/transmissions-episode-157-feedback-frenzy TransMissions #157], segment begins 43:16</ref> before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, apparently included a blue "''[[Diaclone]]''" redeco of Powermaster Optimus Prime labelled "Magnus Prime (Super Ginrai)". Further details are unclear, but "blue ''Diaclone'' colors" in this context presumably referred to the Powered Convoy toy that was redecoed to become the original Ultra Magnus figure, and which has since inspired [[Delta Magnus]] and [[Magna Convoy]]. Though it can be inferred that plans changed after the Ginrai tooling became available, what the originally planned identity of the toy was is a mystery. | *Leaked documents described by the TransMissions podcast,<ref>[https://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2016/03/transmissions-episode-157-feedback-frenzy TransMissions #157], segment begins 43:16</ref> before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, apparently included a blue "''[[Diaclone]]''" redeco of Powermaster Optimus Prime labelled "Magnus Prime (Super Ginrai)". Further details are unclear, but "blue ''Diaclone'' colors" in this context presumably referred to the Powered Convoy toy that was redecoed to become the original Ultra Magnus figure, and which has since inspired [[Delta Magnus]] and [[Magna Convoy]]. Though it can be inferred that plans changed after the Ginrai tooling became available, what the originally planned identity of the toy was is a mystery. | ||
Anyway, the upshot of all of this is that we don't really know who Magnus Prime is, so we're plopping him here on his own page. | Anyway, the upshot of all of this is that we don't really know who Magnus Prime is, so we're plopping him here on his own page. | ||
Revision as of 17:37, 27 June 2021
| This subject of this article goes by multiple names that apply to other articles as well. See Magnus (rank), Prime (disambiguation). |
- Magnus Prime is an Autobot from the Titans Return portion of the Generation 1 continuity family.
Magnus Prime is a City Commander! With the help of his Titan Master Ginrai, he can unleash his Chokon Power![1]
Fiction
Titans Return marketing material
With the Decepticons besieging Cybertron, Magnus Prime used his missile launchers to protect Autobot defenses and strike back at the Decepticons.[2]
Toys
Generations
- Siege on Cybertron (Gift set, 2017)
- Accessories: Two blasters, two shoulder cannons, Ginrai Titan Master
- Titans Return "Magnus Prime" is a redeco of Legends Super Ginrai, and he transforms from robot to truck to giant base. Oddly enough, the Hasbro version names Ginrai as the small Titan Master partner. In comparison to Legends Ginrai's deco, Magnus Prime features a blue crotch and truck windows, and his Autobot insignias on his truck kibble are enlarged and moved to the center, and his guns are entirely painted in one color with the handles being unpainted. His Titan Master's head and legs are now blue. As a redeco of the said retool, Magnus Prime can combine with Legends Godbomber. Although the stock renders and promotional photos shows that the upper section of the waist painted red, the final product is unpainted.
- At least some units are missing a peg that stabilizes his combination with Godbomber's leg mode parts.
- Magnus Prime and Ginrai were only available as part of the "Siege of Cybertron" set, which also includes Fathom & Tidal Wave, Professor Go & Metalhawk, Decepticon Pounce, and Thunderwing. In the United States, this set was exclusive to BigBadToyStore, but it saw a wider release in Canada where it was available at Toys"R"Us, Amazon, the Canadian Walmart online store, book store chain Indigo and several PC retailers (seriously!). Additionally, it was also available at retail in Hong Kong and Singapore and even saw an official release in the Netherlands, where it was exclusively available from BOL.
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Identity
So, just who is Magnus Prime, anyway? There are some competing facts, none of them conclusive:
- The Siege on Cybertron box set calls him a City Commander. That, combined with his name, implies that he might be a new incarnation of Ultra Magnus. However, there's an Ultra Magnus Titan Master figure created to be shipped in the same Strength/Intelligence/Fireblast/Speed matrix as the rest of the Siege on Cybertron/Chaos on Velocitron toys. Hasbro's John Warden stated in an interview it is not Ultra Magnus.[3]
- In the same interview, John Warden stated that the figure was intended to be Ginrai,[4] and further suggested that the figure belonged with "Generation 1" Optimus Primes or Armada Optimus Prime.[5]
- His Titan Master partner was revealed by Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch as Ginrai, which suggests that Magnus Prime is either Ginrai's transtector or the sentient robot Ginrai.
- Leaked documents described by the TransMissions podcast,[6] before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, apparently included a blue "Diaclone" redeco of Powermaster Optimus Prime labelled "Magnus Prime (Super Ginrai)". Further details are unclear, but "blue Diaclone colors" in this context presumably referred to the Powered Convoy toy that was redecoed to become the original Ultra Magnus figure, and which has since inspired Delta Magnus and Magna Convoy. Though it can be inferred that plans changed after the Ginrai tooling became available, what the originally planned identity of the toy was is a mystery.
Anyway, the upshot of all of this is that we don't really know who Magnus Prime is, so we're plopping him here on his own page.
References
- ↑ Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch
- ↑ Titans Return Siege on Cybertron pack-in blurb
- ↑ John Warden stated in an interview, "No he’s not Ultra Magnus." and "No it’s not Ultra Magnus."
- ↑ John Warden stated in the interview above, "That was when we were going to naming the characters and we couldn’t call him Ginrai, so I wanted to make sure that when we worked with the copyright team, that we chose a name that was accessible to maybe a casual fan?" and "Our intention was that is essentially Ginrai but without saying it."
- ↑ John Warden stated in the interview above, " So using a name like Magnus Prime it kind of feels like it’s a step up from Optimus Prime?" and "No I would say put him with Optimus Prime, or the Combiner Wars Optimus, like it’s in that zone, or the 2000’s Armada."
- ↑ TransMissions #157, segment begins 43:16
