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==Alpha Trion Hub Page Intro==
Evil is infinite, a natural counterforce to good in the universe that can never be truly defeated. None strikes greater fear into the [[sparks]] of Transformers than the horned demon, destroyer of worlds—wait, no, that's [[Unicron|his uncle]]. Still, of the [[Thirteen]] primordial deities, there is one whose planet-shaking evil was so unforgivable that—no, wait, that's [[The Fallen|his brother]].
'''Alpha Trion''' is one of the oldest living [[Transformer]]s, and with that age comes a nuanced understanding of his race and their place within the universe. In his youth, he was instrumental in establishing [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] as an independent galactic power, and in his older years, he has found a comfortable role in serving as an advisor to other Transformers, particularly [[Optimus Prime]].  Some people call him '''Sig-Omega''', but he's probably not aware of that.


Though Alpha Trion is firmly on the side of the [[Autobot]]s, few are aware of his true origins. In many realities, he is the guardian of [[Vector Sigma]] and the custodian of its [[Key to Vector Sigma|circuit key]], while in others, he is a member of the [[Thirteen]] and the secret, forgotten guardian of two powerful artifacts: the oracular [[Covenant of Primus]] and the reality-bending [[Quill]].  
Look, the '''Liege Maximo''' is still pretty evil, okay? Either he's the Prime of pure evil—the inevitable counterpart of the goodness embodied in [[Prima|the first Prime]], the root of [[Decepticon|all evil]], his name [[Maximal#2005 IDW continuity|reverberating through the ages]]—''ooor'' he's the Prime of lies. He's definitely at least one of those.


Regardless of continuity, Alpha Trion can always be relied on as a sage-like mentor and ally of the Autobots, for better or worse.  
And what evil plans he has! [[Hot Rod (ES)|Manipulating others]] with his silver tongue, gathering [[Emberstone|artifacts]] and [[Cybertronian (faction)|allies]], biding his time, waiting for the planets to come into [[Hub (G2)|alignment]].  Boy are the Transformers in for it. Darts will be involved! You know—the [[Liegian Darts]]? The Liege Maximo's famous darts. Trust him, it's going to be epic.
{{bigquote|Respect your elders.|Alpha Trion|[[Transformers: Exiles|Exiles]]}}
==Conceptual history==
[[File:Fallenpatlee.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3|Original Dreamwave Productions concept art for the Fallen]]
Created by writer [[Simon Furman]] and artist [[Pat Lee]]<ref>[[Pat Lee#Failure to give proper credit|Allegedly.]]</ref> with contributions from [[Andrew Wildman]]<ref>Namely the fire thing.</ref> and [[Don Figueroa]], the Fallen debuted in the [[2003]] [[Dreamwave Productions]] comic mini-series ''[[Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|War Within: The Dark Ages]]'' as a [[Herald of Unicron]]. A mysterious, fiery being from the Transformers' ancient past, he returned to Cybertron to enact the [[Unbinding]], a ritual that would alert Unicron to Primus's location. Wielding mystical, entropic abilities, he was defeated by his creator, trapping him within the [[Seal of Primus]]. Only a month after this series concluded, ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]''—also written by Furman—was released, and filled in more details of the Fallen's backstory, established him to be one of the mysterious "Thirteen Original Transformers" created by Primus to battle Unicron. According to the Guide, the Fallen betrayed his siblings by joining forces with Unicron, and the battle ended with the Fallen being sucked into a black hole until his escape, as seen in ''The Dark Ages''. A [[2007]] [[bio]] written for the Fallen's ''[[Titanium Series]]'' toy would reveal he was the overseer of entropy.<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/titanium/the-fallen/1126/2/9/ Fallen's ''Titanium Series'' on-package bio]</ref>


===G1 section intro===
As various parties slowly developed the concept of the Thirteen, [[2009]] would be a significant year for the character, becoming the titular main antagonist of the [[Live-action film series]]' second film, ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''. The film would establish the character's connection to Megatron, and use his Decepticon-insignia-looking face to cement him as the true originator of the Decepticons: "The First Decepticon". Despite his death in the film, online Q&A sessions with [[Hasbro]] representatives<ref>See [[Hasbro Q&A/July 2009: Answers|Hasbro Q&A/July 2009: Answer #3]] for more information.</ref> established that the Fallen and his siblings were "[[multiversal singularity|multiversal singularities]]": special entities who existed across all realities, moving between them; this provided a loophole for the Fallen to survive the events of the film.  
'''Alpha Trion''' is an enigmatic old bot constructed during [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]’s earliest days. Originally known as '''A-3''', he played a pivotal role in the [[Autobot Rebellion|rebellion]] against the Transformers' [[Quintesson|oppressors]]. He would play a significant role in Orion Pax’s transformation into [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], leader of the [[Autobot]]s, and in some universes, was considered a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] himself.
===SG section intro===
'''Alpha Trion''' was an adviser to [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] before being whisked away to the [[Multiverse|multiversal]] hub city of [[Axiom Nexus]]. While in Axiom Nexus, he warned a [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|group of]] [[Landquake (Timelines)|multiversal]] [[Breakaway (Classics)|travelers]] of the [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTech]]’s untrustworthy nature, but then again, he’s the one with a ceiling of mutilated corpses! Suffice it to say, he’s not your typical Alpha Trion...


==Artifacts of the Primes template designs <nowiki>{{artifacts}}</nowiki>==
The novels of the [[Aligned continuity family]] significantly fleshed out the character's backstory, relationships, and weaponry. The [[2010]] novel ''[[Transformers: Exodus|Exodus]]'' established his original name of Megatronus, further strengthening the character's connection to Megatron and the Decepticon cause. Its sequel, [[2011]]'s ''[[Transformers: Exiles|Exiles]]'', re-introduced the Requiem Blaster as the personal artifact of Megatronus, unlike the Mini-Con weapon of ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]''. The novel would reveal that the weapon's existence became a great point of contention among the Primes, and would be the weapon that killed [[Solus Prime]], who was introduced as his love interest. Two years later, ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus]]'' provided an alternate, less-villainous interpretation of the Fallen's backstory, exploring his tense relationship with [[Prima]], the "Warrior of Light", and how the manipulations of the silver-tongued [[Liege Maximo]] led to an accidental death of Solus Prime in the [[War of the Primes]]. This less-villainous, more tragic interpretation of the character would be largely ignored when he made his proper television debut in the [[2015]] [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon]], which highlighted his role as the "First Decepticon".
===Current Live Version===
{{artifacts}}
===V1===
{|class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" border="10" style="width:95%" align="center"
|-
! colspan="8" style="background-color: lightgray;"|'''[[Artifacts of the Primes]]'''
|-
! scope="col" width="6.1%" |
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr1|'''[[Prima]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr2|'''[[Vector Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr3|'''[[Alpha Trion]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr4|'''[[Solus Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr5|'''[[Micronus Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr6|'''[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr7|'''[[Nexus Prime]]'''}}</ul>
|-
|'''Artifacts'''
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The<br> [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 20px;">The [[Matrix of Leadership]] / [[Origin Matrix]]</div>
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The<br> [[Blades of Time]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 30px;">[[Badge of Vector Prime]]</div>
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The<br> [[Covenant of Primus]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Quill]]</div>
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The<br> [[Forge of Solus Prime]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 30px;">[[Creation Lathe]]</div>
|The [[Chimera Stone]]
|The [[Lenses]]
|<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Enigma of Combination]] / [[Infinite Combinatoric]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Chaos Edge]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Cyber Caliber]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Omni Saber]]</div>
|-
! scope="col" width="6.1%" |
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr8|'''[[Onyx Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr9|'''[[Amalgamous Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr10|'''[[Quintus Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr11|'''[[Liege Maximo]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr12|'''[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr13|'''[[Thirteenth Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" |'''Multiple users'''
|-
|'''Artifacts'''
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Triptych Mask]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Cortex Helm]]</div>
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Scythe (Thirteen)|Scythe]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Transformation Cog (Thirteen)|Transformation cog]]</div>
|The [[Emberstone]]
|The [[Liegian Darts]]
|The [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]]
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Matrix of Leadership]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Zodiac]]</div>
|<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Apex Armor (Thirteen)|Apex Armor]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Proton Spear]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Terminus Blade]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Scepter of Sparks]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Throne of the Primes]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Halo of Primus]]</div>
|}


===V1.1===
The Fallen was introduced to IDW Publishing's [[2005 IDW continuity|long-running continuity]], being mentioned in [[The Crucible|''Robots in Disguise'' #34]], and making visual appearances in [[Heavy|''Till All Are One ''#9]], [[Origin Myths|''Optimus Prime'' #10]], and [[The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|''Optimus Prime'' #18]], albeit in flashback sequences. In this universe, Megatronus and the rest of the Thirteen were warlords of [[Thirteen Tribes]] rather than demigods.
{|class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" border="10" style="width:75%" align=center
|-
! colspan="8" style="background-color: lightgray;"|'''[[Artifacts of the Primes]]'''
|-
! scope="col" width="6.1%" style="background-color: black;"|
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr1|'''[[Prima]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr2|'''[[Vector Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr3|'''[[Alpha Trion]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr4|'''[[Solus Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr5|'''[[Micronus Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr6|'''[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr7|'''[[Nexus Prime]]'''}}</ul>
|-
|style="background-color: white;"|'''Artifacts'''
|<div style="padding: 39px;">The<br> [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 20px;">The [[Matrix of Leadership]] / [[Origin Matrix]]</div>
|<div style="padding: 40px;">The<br> [[Blades of Time]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 30px;">[[Badge of Vector Prime]]</div>
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The<br> [[Covenant of Primus]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 39px;">The [[Quill]]</div>
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The<br> [[Forge of Solus Prime]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 39px;">[[Creation Lathe]]</div>
|The [[Chimera Stone]]
|The [[Lenses]]
|<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Enigma of Combination]] / [[Infinite Combinatoric]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Chaos Edge]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Cyber Caliber]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Omni Saber]]</div>
|-
! scope="col" width="6.1%" style="background-color: black;"|
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr8|'''[[Onyx Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr9|'''[[Amalgamous Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr10|'''[[Quintus Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr11|'''[[Liege Maximo]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr12|'''[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr13|'''[[Thirteenth Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|'''Multiple users'''
|-
|style="background-color: white;"|'''Artifacts'''
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Triptych Mask]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Cortex Helm]]</div>
|<div style="padding: 40px;">The [[Scythe (Thirteen)|Scythe]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Transformation Cog (Thirteen)|Transformation cog]]</div>
|The [[Emberstone]]
|The [[Liegian Darts]]
|The [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]]
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Matrix of Leadership]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Zodiac]]</div>
|<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Apex Armor (Thirteen)|Apex Armor]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Proton Spear]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Terminus Blade]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Scepter of Sparks]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Throne of the Primes]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Halo of Primus]]</div>
|}


===V1.2===
Concurrently with IDW's continuity, the concept of multiversal singularities was nullified in the 2015 Collectors' Club comic storyline ''[[Another Light]]''. The [[All Things Must Pass|final episode]] of the [[Transformers: Titans Return (cartoon)|''Titans Return'' cartoon]] introduced an amalgamated version of the Fallen—featuring his fiery abilities of the Dreamwave incarnation and the Egyptian-crown-like head and color scheme of ''Revenge of the Fallen''. The proceeding [[Transformers: Power of the Primes (cartoon)|''Power of the Primes'' cartoon]] would adapt his backstory from ''The Covenant of Primus'', featuring the Requiem Blaster and Solus Prime prominently in flashbacks and the present-day story.  


{|class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" border="10" style="width:55%" style=margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;align:center
For a few years, the Fallen was absent from ''Transformers'' media, save the rare cameo appearance in the [[2019 IDW continuity]] or mention in ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Cyberverse]]'', until [[2024]] brought him back to relevance with the ''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]'' film. The film established Megatronus Prime as the strongest and most powerful of the Primes, whose facial design was virtually identical to the Decepticon insignia, including its purple color. Unlike previous incarnations, this Megatronus remained heroic right up to his death, having never betrayed or murdered his fellow Primes. Later that year, the ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' toyline would be revealed, introducing "Megatronus the Fallen" as a Leader Class toy inspired primarily by his appearance in ''War Within: The Dark Ages''.
|-
 
! colspan="8" style="background-color: lightgray;"|'''[[Artifacts of the Primes]]'''
==Notes==
|-
[[File:AOTP Liege Maximo key art.jpg|thumb|I guess we know to which [[Energon bloodline]] [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] belongs.]]
! scope="col" width="6.1%" style="background-color: black;"|
*"Liege Maximo" was likely meant to be this character's title or rank, while his proper name remained unknown, but subsequent uses of the character have treated Liege Maximo as the character's name (or, in some cases, "Liege" as his name and "Maximo" as a title in the vein of "Prime"). Jhiaxus has a similar title, [[Liege Centuro]].
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr1|'''[[Prima]]'''}}</ul>
*Liege Maximo, was, at one point, established as a [[multiversal singularity]] who existed as one being throughout all of time and space, but that is [[Shroud|no longer the case]].
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr2|'''[[Vector Prime]]'''}}</ul>
*In November 2007, [[Simon Furman]] cryptically hinted that the Liege Maximo would make a return in 2008 in IDW's comics.<ref>{{citesocial|link=https://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/script-wrap-15/#comment-1938|quote=Actually, I’m saving LM for something else BIG that’s happening in 08.|name=Simon Furman|site=Simon Furman: The Blog|year=2007|month=11|day=19|title=SCRIPT (W)RAP}}</ref> It didn't happen under his pen, however, and Liege Maximo wouldn't make his IDW debut until over 9 years later, in [[Rubicon|''Till All Are One'' #8]].
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr3|'''[[Alpha Trion]]'''}}</ul>
*Liege Maximo's "Aligned" design, by [[Eric Siebenaler]], seems to have been heavily inspired by the [[Marvel Comics]] version of {{w|Loki (comics)|Loki}}; fitting enough for a manipulator and liar. Contrary to what you might expect, this was ''not'' done as a response to the massive spike in popularity that Loki would get as portrayed by {{w|Tom Hiddleston}} in 2011's {{w|Thor (film)|''Thor''}}; his artwork was first shown at [[BotCon 2010]], prior to the film's Loki's design even being revealed—and, indeed, Aligned Liege Maximo seems to be based much more heavily on the classic "ugly old man" Loki than Hiddleston's youthful hunk.
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr4|'''[[Solus Prime]]'''}}</ul>
*The dead Prime seen in the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' episode "[[Alpha/Omega]]" is identified as Liege Maximo in ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus]]''. The concurrently published ''[[Transformers: The Art of Prime|Art of Prime]]'' claims that it is [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]], but that doesn't make sense, since Sentinel is not a true Prime and, as such, his limb would not convey the power to use the Forge on Megatron. The dead Prime's arm in ''Prime'' is red-colored, which neither Sentinel nor Maximo are; it may be due to influence from [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|the live-action Sentinel]].
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr5|'''[[Micronus Prime]]'''}}</ul>
*The death of Liege Maximo in the ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|Covenant of Primus]]'' is also at odds with other stories from Aligned continuity. The [[Transformers: Exiles|''Exiles'' novel]] reports that Alchemist Prime left Cybertron to hunt down and capture Liege Maximo, while the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|2015 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon]] and [[The Trials of Optimus Prime|related materials]] show Liege Maximo as active in the [[Realm of the Primes]]. This is one of the larger examples of Aligned continuity's "It only works if you squint" rule towards the overall timeline.
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr6|'''[[Maccadam|Alchemist Prime]]'''}}</ul>
*Behind-the-scenes concept art from ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Cyberverse]]'' mislabels Liege Maximo's plinth in the Realm of the Primes as "Siege Maximo". Translating the words on the plinth, however, gives the correct name.<ref>[https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/025/493/315/large/nicolaas-frankefort-prime-slabs.jpg?1585959977 Concept art of "Prime slabs"]</ref>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr7|'''[[Nexus Prime]]'''}}</ul>
*In [[2023]], [[Aaron Archer]] revealed on a personal stream several concept sketches of the Thirteen he had made sometime during the 2000s, when Hasbro was still developing the full roster for what would eventually become the [[Aligned continuity family]].<ref>{{citesocial|quote=Really we were trying to create a representation of each of the classic Transformer forms. So as I was creating the Thirteen, some had been figured out, right? So Megatronus I think, Liege Maximo, Alpha Trion I believe were already named characters... but then I tried to figure out how to bring the concept of beasts and combiners [and the Mini-Cons] and different elements into the concept, so that you had the whole pantheon of gods, different shapes and sizes and whatnot. So I went through and I drew kind of visions of what they could be. So this is not trying to figure the character out, but get the vibe of what the character was about, other talented people would come in behind me and do that. So there's like the idea that—why did the Quintessons think that they might have made the Transformers? Well they come from the guy that was like the Johnny Appleseed, or the character that seeded some of the planets, so they were confused... try to shore up some of these ideas for the Aligned continuity, right? Here's an elemental kind of concept, gears and metal and magnetism, kind of a proto-Transformer, kind of weird thing. [...] Here's another weird version of Megatronus, how big he is compared to like what Megatron would have been.|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQLQ4VzuCGA&t=689s|name=Aaron Archer|site=''The Toy Armada''|title=Toy Armada Friday night LIVE: Creating characters and lore|year=2023|month=05|day=26}}</ref> At this stage in development, the Liege Maximo's design was heavily inspired by the original G2 comic design instead of being based on Loki. In a bizarre deep cut, this early concept design was used as the basis for the character's appearance in the ''[[Age of the Primes]]'' key art and other promotional images.
|-
*''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|EarthSpark]]'' Liege Maximo was designed by [[Nick Roche]].<ref>{{citesocial|quote=IT ME|link=https://bsky.app/profile/nickroche.bsky.social/post/3maoucmwxxc2w|name=Nick Roche|site=Bluesky|year=2025|month=12|day=23}}</ref> One of the concept designs for his head was a much more G2-inspired look, seen in the gallery below.
|style="background-color: white;"|'''Artifacts'''
 
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The<br> [[Star Saber (Thirteen)|Star Saber]]</div>
===Foreign names===
----<div style="padding: 20px;">The [[Matrix of Leadership]] / [[Origin Matrix]]</div>
*''Japanese:'' '''Liege Maximo''' (リージマキシモ ''Rīji Makishimo'')
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The<br> [[Blades of Time]]</div>
*''Mandarin:'' '''Maximo Dàdì''' (马克西莫大帝 ''Mǎkèxīmò Dàdì'', "Maximo the Great")
----<div style="padding: 30px;">[[Badge of Vector Prime]]</div>
 
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The<br> [[Covenant of Primus]]</div>
==Gallery==
----<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Quill]]</div>
<gallery>
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The<br> [[Forge of Solus Prime]]</div>
File:LiegeMaximoAaronArcherSketch.jpg|A concept sketch created by Aaron Archer in the 2000s
----<div style="padding: 30px;">[[Creation Lathe]]</div>
File:Liege Maximo-Sara Pitre Durocher-TAAO-model.jpg|2005 IDW comic continuity
|The [[Chimera Stone]]
File:IDW2 The Liege Maximo.jpg|2019 IDW continuity
|The [[Lenses]]
File:One-Liege-Maximo.jpg|''One'' film
|<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Enigma of Combination]] / [[Infinite Combinatoric]]</div>
File:LiegeMaximo-earthspark-stock.jpg|''EarthSpark'' cartoon
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Chaos Edge]]</div>
File:Elm.jpg|''EarthSpark'' concept art
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Cyber Caliber]]</div>
</gallery>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Omni Saber]]</div>
|-
! scope="col" width="6.1%" style="background-color: black;"|
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr8|'''[[Onyx Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr9|'''[[Amalgamous Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr10|'''[[Quintus Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr11|'''[[Liege Maximo]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr12|'''[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr13|'''[[Thirteenth Prime]]'''}}</ul>
! scope="col" width="7.1%" style="background-color: white;"|'''Multiple users'''
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|style="background-color: white;"|'''Artifacts'''
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Triptych Mask]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Cortex Helm]]</div>
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Scythe (Thirteen)|Scythe]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Transformation Cog (Thirteen)|Transformation cog]]</div>
|The [[Emberstone]]
|The [[Liegian Darts]]
|The [[Requiem Blaster (Thirteen)|Requiem Blaster]]
|<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Matrix of Leadership]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 30px;">The [[Zodiac]]</div>
|<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Apex Armor (Thirteen)|Apex Armor]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Proton Spear]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Terminus Blade]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Scepter of Sparks]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Throne of the Primes]]</div>
----<div style="padding: 10px;">The [[Halo of Primus]]</div>
|}

Revision as of 16:40, 1 April 2026

Evil is infinite, a natural counterforce to good in the universe that can never be truly defeated. None strikes greater fear into the sparks of Transformers than the horned demon, destroyer of worlds—wait, no, that's his uncle. Still, of the Thirteen primordial deities, there is one whose planet-shaking evil was so unforgivable that—no, wait, that's his brother.

Look, the Liege Maximo is still pretty evil, okay? Either he's the Prime of pure evil—the inevitable counterpart of the goodness embodied in the first Prime, the root of all evil, his name reverberating through the ages—ooor he's the Prime of lies. He's definitely at least one of those.

And what evil plans he has! Manipulating others with his silver tongue, gathering artifacts and allies, biding his time, waiting for the planets to come into alignment. Boy are the Transformers in for it. Darts will be involved! You know—the Liegian Darts? The Liege Maximo's famous darts. Trust him, it's going to be epic.

Conceptual history

Original Dreamwave Productions concept art for the Fallen

Created by writer Simon Furman and artist Pat Lee[1] with contributions from Andrew Wildman[2] and Don Figueroa, the Fallen debuted in the 2003 Dreamwave Productions comic mini-series War Within: The Dark Ages as a Herald of Unicron. A mysterious, fiery being from the Transformers' ancient past, he returned to Cybertron to enact the Unbinding, a ritual that would alert Unicron to Primus's location. Wielding mystical, entropic abilities, he was defeated by his creator, trapping him within the Seal of Primus. Only a month after this series concluded, Transformers: The Ultimate Guide—also written by Furman—was released, and filled in more details of the Fallen's backstory, established him to be one of the mysterious "Thirteen Original Transformers" created by Primus to battle Unicron. According to the Guide, the Fallen betrayed his siblings by joining forces with Unicron, and the battle ended with the Fallen being sucked into a black hole until his escape, as seen in The Dark Ages. A 2007 bio written for the Fallen's Titanium Series toy would reveal he was the overseer of entropy.[3]

As various parties slowly developed the concept of the Thirteen, 2009 would be a significant year for the character, becoming the titular main antagonist of the Live-action film series' second film, Revenge of the Fallen. The film would establish the character's connection to Megatron, and use his Decepticon-insignia-looking face to cement him as the true originator of the Decepticons: "The First Decepticon". Despite his death in the film, online Q&A sessions with Hasbro representatives[4] established that the Fallen and his siblings were "multiversal singularities": special entities who existed across all realities, moving between them; this provided a loophole for the Fallen to survive the events of the film.

The novels of the Aligned continuity family significantly fleshed out the character's backstory, relationships, and weaponry. The 2010 novel Exodus established his original name of Megatronus, further strengthening the character's connection to Megatron and the Decepticon cause. Its sequel, 2011's Exiles, re-introduced the Requiem Blaster as the personal artifact of Megatronus, unlike the Mini-Con weapon of Armada. The novel would reveal that the weapon's existence became a great point of contention among the Primes, and would be the weapon that killed Solus Prime, who was introduced as his love interest. Two years later, The Covenant of Primus provided an alternate, less-villainous interpretation of the Fallen's backstory, exploring his tense relationship with Prima, the "Warrior of Light", and how the manipulations of the silver-tongued Liege Maximo led to an accidental death of Solus Prime in the War of the Primes. This less-villainous, more tragic interpretation of the character would be largely ignored when he made his proper television debut in the 2015 Robots in Disguise cartoon, which highlighted his role as the "First Decepticon".

The Fallen was introduced to IDW Publishing's long-running continuity, being mentioned in Robots in Disguise #34, and making visual appearances in Till All Are One #9, Optimus Prime #10, and Optimus Prime #18, albeit in flashback sequences. In this universe, Megatronus and the rest of the Thirteen were warlords of Thirteen Tribes rather than demigods.

Concurrently with IDW's continuity, the concept of multiversal singularities was nullified in the 2015 Collectors' Club comic storyline Another Light. The final episode of the Titans Return cartoon introduced an amalgamated version of the Fallen—featuring his fiery abilities of the Dreamwave incarnation and the Egyptian-crown-like head and color scheme of Revenge of the Fallen. The proceeding Power of the Primes cartoon would adapt his backstory from The Covenant of Primus, featuring the Requiem Blaster and Solus Prime prominently in flashbacks and the present-day story.

For a few years, the Fallen was absent from Transformers media, save the rare cameo appearance in the 2019 IDW continuity or mention in Cyberverse, until 2024 brought him back to relevance with the Transformers One film. The film established Megatronus Prime as the strongest and most powerful of the Primes, whose facial design was virtually identical to the Decepticon insignia, including its purple color. Unlike previous incarnations, this Megatronus remained heroic right up to his death, having never betrayed or murdered his fellow Primes. Later that year, the Age of the Primes toyline would be revealed, introducing "Megatronus the Fallen" as a Leader Class toy inspired primarily by his appearance in War Within: The Dark Ages.

Notes

I guess we know to which Energon bloodline Inferno belongs.
  • "Liege Maximo" was likely meant to be this character's title or rank, while his proper name remained unknown, but subsequent uses of the character have treated Liege Maximo as the character's name (or, in some cases, "Liege" as his name and "Maximo" as a title in the vein of "Prime"). Jhiaxus has a similar title, Liege Centuro.
  • Liege Maximo, was, at one point, established as a multiversal singularity who existed as one being throughout all of time and space, but that is no longer the case.
  • In November 2007, Simon Furman cryptically hinted that the Liege Maximo would make a return in 2008 in IDW's comics.[5] It didn't happen under his pen, however, and Liege Maximo wouldn't make his IDW debut until over 9 years later, in Till All Are One #8.
  • Liege Maximo's "Aligned" design, by Eric Siebenaler, seems to have been heavily inspired by the Marvel Comics version of Loki; fitting enough for a manipulator and liar. Contrary to what you might expect, this was not done as a response to the massive spike in popularity that Loki would get as portrayed by Tom Hiddleston in 2011's Thor; his artwork was first shown at BotCon 2010, prior to the film's Loki's design even being revealed—and, indeed, Aligned Liege Maximo seems to be based much more heavily on the classic "ugly old man" Loki than Hiddleston's youthful hunk.
  • The dead Prime seen in the Transformers: Prime episode "Alpha/Omega" is identified as Liege Maximo in The Covenant of Primus. The concurrently published Art of Prime claims that it is Sentinel Prime, but that doesn't make sense, since Sentinel is not a true Prime and, as such, his limb would not convey the power to use the Forge on Megatron. The dead Prime's arm in Prime is red-colored, which neither Sentinel nor Maximo are; it may be due to influence from the live-action Sentinel.
  • The death of Liege Maximo in the Covenant of Primus is also at odds with other stories from Aligned continuity. The Exiles novel reports that Alchemist Prime left Cybertron to hunt down and capture Liege Maximo, while the 2015 Robots in Disguise cartoon and related materials show Liege Maximo as active in the Realm of the Primes. This is one of the larger examples of Aligned continuity's "It only works if you squint" rule towards the overall timeline.
  • Behind-the-scenes concept art from Cyberverse mislabels Liege Maximo's plinth in the Realm of the Primes as "Siege Maximo". Translating the words on the plinth, however, gives the correct name.[6]
  • In 2023, Aaron Archer revealed on a personal stream several concept sketches of the Thirteen he had made sometime during the 2000s, when Hasbro was still developing the full roster for what would eventually become the Aligned continuity family.[7] At this stage in development, the Liege Maximo's design was heavily inspired by the original G2 comic design instead of being based on Loki. In a bizarre deep cut, this early concept design was used as the basis for the character's appearance in the Age of the Primes key art and other promotional images.
  • EarthSpark Liege Maximo was designed by Nick Roche.[8] One of the concept designs for his head was a much more G2-inspired look, seen in the gallery below.

Foreign names

  • Japanese: Liege Maximo (リージマキシモ Rīji Makishimo)
  • Mandarin: Maximo Dàdì (马克西莫大帝 Mǎkèxīmò Dàdì, "Maximo the Great")
  1. ↑ Allegedly.
  2. ↑ Namely the fire thing.
  3. ↑ Fallen's Titanium Series on-package bio
  4. ↑ See Hasbro Q&A/July 2009: Answer #3 for more information.
  5. ↑ "Actually, I’m saving LM for something else BIG that’s happening in 08."—Simon Furman, Simon Furman: The Blog, "SCRIPT (W)RAP", 2007/11/19
  6. ↑ Concept art of "Prime slabs"
  7. ↑ "Really we were trying to create a representation of each of the classic Transformer forms. So as I was creating the Thirteen, some had been figured out, right? So Megatronus I think, Liege Maximo, Alpha Trion I believe were already named characters... but then I tried to figure out how to bring the concept of beasts and combiners [and the Mini-Cons] and different elements into the concept, so that you had the whole pantheon of gods, different shapes and sizes and whatnot. So I went through and I drew kind of visions of what they could be. So this is not trying to figure the character out, but get the vibe of what the character was about, other talented people would come in behind me and do that. So there's like the idea that—why did the Quintessons think that they might have made the Transformers? Well they come from the guy that was like the Johnny Appleseed, or the character that seeded some of the planets, so they were confused... try to shore up some of these ideas for the Aligned continuity, right? Here's an elemental kind of concept, gears and metal and magnetism, kind of a proto-Transformer, kind of weird thing. [...] Here's another weird version of Megatronus, how big he is compared to like what Megatron would have been."—Aaron Archer, The Toy Armada, "Toy Armada Friday night LIVE: Creating characters and lore", 2023/05/26
  8. ↑ "IT ME"—Nick Roche, Bluesky, 2025/12/23