Talk:Blackout (Movie)

Hard points

Should it be mentioned in the article that the two hard points on the Voyager-class figure's shoulders are perfectly suited to plugging a Mini-con onto? I noticed this when I first purchased the figure, then tried it out when I got a chance; the pegs are almost identical to the ones on Armada and Energon figures. King Starscream 06:29, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Note it in the Voyager class toy's writeup. --ItsWalky 15:09, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Italicized trivia at the end of the toy writeup. -Derik 06:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think its particularly significant, given that several non UT-era toys have that sort of 5mm peg with a hole in the middle. Even G1 Ultra Magnus has one. --FFN 05:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I think mentioning as part of the toy's description that it has two Powerlinx pegs on its shoulders/helicopterpartthingy isn't intrusive, and is actually a good thing to know! --ItsWalky 05:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Something that EXPANDS the toy's playability? HELL YES it should be mentioned! --M Sipher 07:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Well the toy IS pretty unplayable in its present form, so it needs all the help it can get. I'll have to reword the blurb, because it suggests somebody at Haskara might have intended them to be Mini-Con ports, when they are not. Merely a coincidence. --FFN 19:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

aaaaand i'll just remove what I just said - forgot about this giant weapon, there. - Chris McFeely 21:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Blackout on mars

In the movie, Tom Banachek clearly state that the robot destroying the Bealgle 2 Rover has been identified as the one that attacked the base in Irak. Shouldn't that be mentioned?--GUIGUI 17:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Definitely. --Suki Brits 17:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I... don't think it's clearly stated. They say they have similar exoskeletal thingermajig. They could simply be saying he's the same species. We should be careful. --ItsWalky 18:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah it was not clearly stated as such. What he told Keller was that they believe it the two things in the photos (Mars McRandomdude and Blackout) have a similar exoskeletal structure, not 'the thing that attacked the base destroyed this probe a couple of years ago!' --FFN 18:27, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Well seeing that the transformers can also been ditingued by they personnal exoskeleton, we could mention it with a "Presumed", or a "it could be", even in the trivia, no?--GUIGUI 18:36, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

There's no evidence, so we can't suggest it in trivia, in my opinion. They do that far too often on the regular Wikipedia. --FFN 18:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

It seemed pretty obvious to me that it was supposed to be the same guy. I assumed the "similar" part was just because now the guy turns into a helicopter and looks slightly different now-- not that it was a different guy. I mean, their silhouettes were basically the same. Regardless, if it's really a contended point, do we have any secondary material that addresses this at all? --Suki Brits 18:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I assumed the 'similar' bit meant 'we think it's the same species.' -Derik 19:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

It seemed to me that Banachek was saying it's the same robot. However, it is at best implied, and the idea of that being Blackout contradicts, IMO, Bumblebee's designation as N.B.E.-2. I was under the impression that Bumblebee was supposed to be the Mars robot, and thus was surprised by the (to me) implied "it was Blackout". --Steve-o 21:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, no, we know the rover-smasher was definitely either Starscream, Blackout or Barricade - we see it happen on the second-to-last page of the IDW prequel. We just don't see which one of them delivers the blow. - Chris McFeely 21:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Tom clearly states that they are of “the same exoskeletal type”, so other than it being Blackout who the image is compared to, there is no implication that they are the same one what so ever. The purpose of that scene was to show they are the same species, nothing more. As far as evidence in the movie goes, the Mars Transformer is no more Blackout than it is any other character. Obviously the images do look similar, but then most of the transformers are similar anyway, (just try looking at silhouettes of the Atobot protoforms for instance), realistically blackout would be too big for the event; he would overwhelm the view and would have cast the rover in a much greater shadow. If anything it looks more logical to be Barricade. -Guest 15:21, 6 March 2008.

New image

Opinions on using this image as the new main pic? --FFN 19:51, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Personally, what I would like to see this Wiki do is put a section at the bottom of each page of the movie transformers that contains all other images of that character, including extra CGI renders. --Guest 20.55 23February 2008

Automorph

I put info on how to best automorph the voyager class figure. Hope it helps. --Paradox244 00:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Cyber Slammer

I think the Cyber Slammers blackout thing is just an error on Hasbro's website's part, the page was up for a day with no pics or text, and I don't recall the toy being announced anywhere else. I'm removing it from the page 'til there's prooof it's gog to be made. --Nemesis Primal 03:57, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Alt-mode Origin Contradiction

It just occurred to me that there may not necessarily be a contradiction between Blackout getting his alt-form 3 years before the movie in the "Prime Directives," prequel comic, and the mention of how his serial number namesake got shot down in Afghanistan 3 months prior to the movie. He mentions in the comic that there "were no witnesses," in contrast to Blackout and Starscream. If this is true, then it's entirely possible that he scanned the vehicle without any humans noticing, and then both he and the helicopter he scanned went on their separate paths; Blackout doing the stuff he did in Prime Directives and the helicopter getting shot down in Afghanistan three months before the movie. --UndeadScottsman 08:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

EMP??

Why is Blackout's initial attack called an EMP wave? If it was, every electrical circuit on the base should be rendered dead. This was clearly not the case since the computers were still on. It looks like just some kind of plain old shockwave to me. -- Repowers 06:39, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Sabot at the base?

Can we confirm it was a sabot round? I mean, for one, they didn't pull that trump card until later in the film. Two, Blackout didn't "react" the way every other Transformer (including himself) did when hit with Sabot: Namely, in pain. At the base, he merely "flinched". tl;dr I think it was a simple grenade launcher. --Terrocon Blot 06:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

You're right, it was just a grenade round. On the DVD there appears to be, as the soldiers later relate, some kind of force field holding back the energy of the grenade. --FFN 07:17, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Blackout not dead?

In a recent video released by Bay himself, we see Prime clearly getting his ass kicked by Starscream, Megatron, and Blackout. Is this currently worth noting, or is someone going to suggest Blackout has a twin? --75.181.157.99 07:24, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

He definitely is, anything else is speculation. Alientraveller 11:28, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

It's not really that odd...Megatron was dead and disposed of with Blackout, so presumably whatever resurrected Megatron also nabbed Blackout. Honestly, it should have been expected.KrytenKoro 12:27, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

He does have a twin of sorts, Grindor is a Blackout repaint appearing in both the toyline and the video game. While there's absolutely no confirmation that Grindor's the character in the trailer, there's also no confirmation that it *isn't* him. This will all be easy enough to confirm once we've seen the movie and game and so on, but until then I don't think we can say with certainly that Blackout returns in the new film. - Cattleprod 15:02, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

ROTF status

So we have absolutely no idea if it's Blackout in Revenge of the Fallen? -- SFH 16:49, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

No idea at all. Apparently the Blackout-like 'Con in the film is never called by name, has no lines (and so isn't listed in the credits), and Megatron's the only one of the dead 'Cons from film 1 that the 'Cons (a) are seeking to bring back and (b) are shown to bring back. - SanityOrMadness 16:55, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

It is the same in the adaptations. Interestingly, there is a Blackout in the M&M's portion of the ROTF continuity. - Starfield 17:02, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

Blackout is dead

Transformers Revenge of the Fallen has been released in tokyo, and it has been confirmed that Blackout is dead. The Blackout-looking guy you see in the commercial is Grindor. Homey 17:05, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

It seems that much of the decepticon army is made of duplicates, as induvidual constructicons appear at the same time as Devastator, and Demolisher is clearly dead by this point. Along with the the new helicopter guy, there is a decepticon with Bonecrushers alt mode shown breifly, though it doesn't transform.Thelastallosaur 18:17, 20 June 2009 (EDT)