Talk:Primus

Organization

I think this needs reformating. Right now all entries focus on the current Primus/Unicron backstory, even the one on the Marvel Comics where the backstory was notably different (and had several versions in itself).

Do we want to focus the whole entry on the current multiversal paradigm and add previous Primus backstory as continuity notes? Or do we want to tell each version of the story as its own section of the entry? ZacWilliam 19:52, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Considering the current Primus' backstory IS all the previous Primus material all streamlined into one entity, I think we should open with that. Otherwise, we're going to have two nigh-identical halves in the same article, one half being a retelling of the other half. It is a retcon, after all, of which Transformers has many, and we have accepted previous ones pretty easily. (IE, Vector Sigma vs. Quints creating the TFs in the cartoon.) Of course, we should note, as it does now, that this is the current "dogma" of sorts, that inconsistencies exist -- and in the subchapters for each continuity, we should tell it as it was. --ItsWalky 21:09, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough. Where should the stuff about him creating the Covenant of Primus (the group) before Cybertron go? Universe cause it's botcon related? or near the begining with the general stuff? Also, Timelines stuff happening at the same time as Cybertron seperate entry or together with the general Cybertron one?

I would say the Covenant of Primus (the 12) should go in Universe. The 13 (which includes Vector Prime and The Fallen) should probably be added somewhere in the beginning. --ItsWalky 23:10, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

The Fan Club comic

For the last time, the comic in the fan club magazine is a CYBERTRON comic. It says so at the top of every issue. It's not labelled Timelines. It takes place in the Unicron Trilogy universe. --ItsWalky 03:57, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Primus sucked??

Says under "War of the Ballance" that Primus was sucked into the black hole limbo with Unicron. Did I miss something or shouldn't that be the Fallen was sucked in with Uni, not Primus? --ZacWilliam 21:15, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it should. Corrected. -King Starscream 14:10, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

The God of the Cybertrons

In the second episode of Beast Wars Neo, Big Convoy and crew head to planet God Bless to look for an Angolmois capsule. The effect of this particular capsule is that anyone who comes near it "sees" their god, which the Destrons use to exploit the cat-people of God Bless into making oil for them. When Big Convoy and co. come into the picture, they see an illusion of "the God of the Cybertrons"... who is a gigantic Great Convoy.

Great God!

I'm wondering where this would go. At the moment, I'm thinking in Primus's Trivia section, but I'd like some opinions. They don't call it Primus by name, but Beast Wars itself had references to Primus... of course, I don't know how Japan handled those. --Monzo 14:49, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd put that in God of the Autobots. Primus didn't exist in Japanese continuity until Energon, so it'd be horribly misleading to put it in this article. It's certainly possible for other Cybertronian gods to co-exist with Primus. Interrobang 23:22, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

And we need a God Bless article, dammit. Interrobang 23:24, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I strongly object to placing a GotC article in God of the Auobots, since as used it would almost certainly be better translated as 'God of the Maximals.' Japan's obnoxious decision to give the new factions the old names contributes to their marginalization of the con/pred changeover. BW-era is NOT JUST G!-ERA LATER IN THE FUTURE. THERE HAVE BEEN FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES, RRAUGH, DERIK SMASH!-Derik 00:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

To be perfectly correct (and to avoid big arguments like Talk: Lio Convoy, I'd say we go with the whacky name and have it at God of the Cybertrons. It's a Japanese-only concept. We might as well give it the appropriate Japanese name.--Rosicrucian 00:13, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, the thing is - as I vaguely suggested at - Beast Wars had references to Primus, and Beast Wars was dubbed into Japanese, ergo there may have been references to Primus in J-BW. The problem is, with the wacky dub of the show, I have no way of knowing if those references were kept. A quick search of the scripts indicates that there were references to Primus in Bad Spark, Transmutate and Agenda 3, at least, which would have all been part of Metals. I guess I can try poking around Japanese TF pages for Metals episode reviews... --Monzo 00:17, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

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